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Russia: No Rebuilding of Georgia’s MilitaryPosted on Jul 24, 2009
Russia has announced it will take “concrete steps” to hinder any attempt by Georgia to rebuild its military capability, claiming it is “deeply worried” that its small neighbor might be preparing for yet another conflict. The stern words come as Vice President Joe Biden pays a visit to Georgia just ahead of the first anniversary of its war with Russia over South Ossetia.
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By Russian Paul, July 26, 2009 at 1:16 am Link to this comment
Well, I bloody well can’t answer your question properly, can I? I haven’t seen the fucking film, have you?
So Russia made a propaganda movie, that’s nothing new. From what I’ve gleamed, the basic plot doesn’t seem to contradict with what happened, although I’m sure there’s plenty of dramatizing going on, but that’s to be expected. What of all the pro-US propaganda crap Hollywood spits out?
You seem to be focusing a little too much on a movie, and not enough on the facts on the ground. All impartial monitors of the war (OSCE and others) agreed Georgia started the war. Even most international journalists have also now corrected themselves. The US phony corporate media is now alone in promulgating this bullshit.
i guess the truth sounds “cliche?” Look at Saakshvili and how barbaric he is to dissidents. Look at the phony US backed “revolution” that put him in power. Look at how he obsequiously tries to please his Western allies. And look at our history of intervening in other country’s business wherever oil and other resources are plenty. There’s a real juicy pipeline in Georgia.
I’m sorry, but you are utterly naive or just stupid if you don’t understand the true reasons we are trying to NATOize and westernize that whole region.
Report thisBy Lost, July 25, 2009 at 10:22 pm Link to this comment
Russian Paul, July 25 at 5:08 pm
Your post looks like some cliché kit and there is no answer for my question. It was about that movie? Okay?
Let start from begin.
I ask you – who was target of that project in Russian society?
For me it was:
Report thisfirst - totally propaganda, ensuring Russian government version only
second – it was mixed very fast even for world standards
third – it was very expensive and totally government-funded project (so taxpayers pay for that)
fourth – it was shown on government-controlled TV channels on weekend prime-time
By Russian Paul, July 25, 2009 at 2:08 pm Link to this comment
Lost - I know little about that, but all I can say is just because the film looks like propaganda, doesn’t mean the things it says aren’t true. And just because Russia is being squeezed by Western forces and I’m rather sympathetic towards them, doesn’t mean they aren’t a corrupt regime with many human rights violations…but you have to look at the big picture.
What were Dick Cheney’s top aides doing in Georgia right before the attack? Why are we pushing for NATO partnership for such a corrupt regime as Georgia?
Saakashvili, who is a Western-installed dictator, treats protesters and dissidents a million times worse than the Russians do. He tortures and throws all dissidents in prison without question, and based on the number of protests that nevertheless plague him, it’s easy to ascertain he is by far their most unpopular president. He is only interested in serving the interests of his Western allies. The more you find out about Saakashvili, the more you may begin to agree with me.
Report thisBy Lost, July 25, 2009 at 7:51 am Link to this comment
To: Russian Paul, July 24 at 6:03 pm
So why do you need “Olimpus Inferno” movie then? If you are totally right why you spend so many $ to make this vomit realy quickly?
Report thisBy Russian Paul, July 24, 2009 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment
Phracktivist - according to whom was Russia the agressor? All the independent observers of the conflict state clearly that Georgia, backed by US interests, attacked first. Only the US corporate media is still clinging on to this “Russian aggression” bullshit. What’s crystal clear here is the US is trying its hardest to exert its control over the region. To try and keep Russia isolated, and more importantly, to get to all that delicious Caspian oil.
How fitting - I just learned that during the conflict, Georgian soldiers were aided by Israeli military advisers, who I’m guessing also have a stake in Caspian oil pipelines.
”...the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.” http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1358
Report thisBy Russian Paul, July 24, 2009 at 1:05 pm Link to this comment
Can you blame them after the stunt US-backed Georgia pulled last year? tHanks to corporate media bullshit, most people still wrongly believe the Russians to be the agressors in that conflict. Peacekeepers and OSCE monitors were all pretty much in agreement that Georgia attacked first.
And now that we know what really happened, Biden and friends are still pushing for NATO membership, all the while we are still going ahead with the missile defense shield in Poland - this IS the second cold war, the US has already started it. The US have their eyes on Ukraine and Georgia because they want to tap into the oil of the region.
Report thisBy Phracktivist, July 24, 2009 at 11:25 am Link to this comment
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You gotta be fuckin kidding me; Russia is still playing the “those Georgians were mean to us” card even though it’s crystal clear that Russia was the aggressor in last year’s conflict? Deeply worried my ass.
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