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 Day-1 Honduras Talks FailPosted on Jul 10, 2009
Talks between Honduras’ President Manuel Zelaya and not-president/coup-leader Roberto Micheletti expectedly failed Thursday. Now, negotiations will fall to the staff members of each politician, as the two leaders have refused, and will refuse, to meet face to face. (Does anyone else find it hilarious that Voice of America is becoming a legitimate source for coverage of a Central American coup?)
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By trthtllr, July 12, 2009 at 9:56 am Link to this comment
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The whole purpose of these Clinton/Obama sponsored talks was to give time to Micheletti to consolidate his coup. Obama, the Puppet POTUS, is apparently a worthless figurehead—such a disappointment.
Report thisBy Diana Barahona, July 11, 2009 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment
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See my blog to read Hugo Chavez’s comments on the mediation in Costa Rica, which he pronounced dead, calling it a “trap” set by Clinton and “Washington’s horrible miscarriage”. dianabarahona.blogspot.com
Report thisBy boggs, July 11, 2009 at 3:48 am Link to this comment
Anybody want to bet that our CIA is not very much involved in bringing about this coup and in seeing that it stands firm.
Report thisBy Commune115, July 10, 2009 at 7:52 pm Link to this comment
(Does anyone else find it hilarious that Voice of America is becoming a legitimate source for coverage of a Central American coup?)
NICE TO SEE TRUTHDIG IS TAKING A FASCIST COUP RIGHT NEXT DOOR SERIOUSLY. MEANWHILE IT CONTINUES RUNNING RIDICULOUS CARTOONS STILL OBSESSING WITH IRAN.
Report thisBy Commune115, July 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm Link to this comment
Why were talks even suggested with an illegal coup regime? It is time for ALBA to take serious action to help bring Zelaya back.
Meanwhile,some interesting facts.
In the rallies that were held this Friday in the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa, a fact rarely discussed in national and international press—but well-known throughout the Honduran population—was made public: Roberto Micheletti’s attempt to modify this Central American country’s Constitution in 1985.
Popular organizations, teachers union members, union leaders, and the general public, in addition to demanding the reinstatement of Honduras’ legitimate and constitutional president, Manual Zelaya, vocalized coup leader Roberto Micheletti’s public attempt [to change the Constitution].
So apparently the fascists can do it, but not Zelaya. What a joke.
Report thisBy rend, July 10, 2009 at 5:51 pm Link to this comment
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VOA speak,,, “The caretaker government”
Report thisBy brainfood, July 10, 2009 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
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Interestingly, the Honduran Constitution of 1982 does provide for loss of citizenship for those who “incite, promote or aid in the continuation or re-election of the President” http://pdba.georgetown.edu/Constitutions/Honduras/hond05.html (article 42):
Report thisARTICULO 42.- La calidad de ciudadano se pierde: 5. Por incitar, promover o apoyar el continuismo o la reelección del Presidente de la República.
Further, Article 239 indicates that anyone who has held the office of chief executive cannot be president or vice president and anyone who proposes reform to that prohibition can be barred from holding public office for ten years: ARTICULO 239.- El ciudadano que haya desempeñado la titularidad del Poder Ejecutivo no podrá ser Presidente o Vicepresidente de la República. El que quebrante esta disposición o proponga su reforma, así como aquellos que lo apoyen directa o indirectamente, cesarán de inmediato en el desempeño de sus respectivos cargos y quedarán inhabilitados por diez años para el ejercicio de toda función pública.
My educated guess on that provision is that it is aimed move at banning past military dictators from pursuing the office than it is a stricture contra re-election, per se.
Additionally, Article 374 bars any amendments regarding the length of the presidential term (amongst other things:
ARTICULO 374.- No podrán reformarse, en ningún caso, el artículo anterior, el presente artículo, los artículos constitucionales que se refieren a la forma de gobierno, al territorio nacional, al período presidencial, a la prohibición para ser nuevamente Presidente de la República, el ciudadano que lo haya desempeñado bajo cualquier título y el referente a quienes no pueden ser Presidentes de la República por el período subsiguiente.
As such, it is pretty clear why the Supreme Court of Justice ruled against Zelaya’s plebiscite proposal in the first place. It also means that if the vote had been allowed to happen it would have had no legal standing.