ITW: Thanks for clueing nefesh in for me. I admit I’m getting disheartened: I have to work hard on my parody of mushy progressivism. People like nefesh and folktruther seem to pump theirs out effortlessly.

Folktruther, July 7 at 12:43 am #

The US statistics, as paul craig roberts and other economists say, are largely fabrications, disguising what is happening.  Surprisingly, China also downplays the size and pace of its economy, hiding, as Deng put it, its light under a bushel.  This is done to replace the US without war as the leading power.  Beucase of the current world recession, China has apparently sped up its plans, and plans to complete the transition in ten years.
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This is news? It’s a natural consequence of the weakening of the financial center of the world.  It mimics exactly what the United States did following World War I to replace Britain as the leading financial power in the world.  The US deliberately attacked and replaced the British international banking system because in 1919, when the raid started, WE had all the money and Britain and most of Europe was basically broke and owed us.

Now China is simply doing the same thing, 90 years later.  You cannot resist it except by rebuilding your OWN economy…and not with banking “products” or more McDonalds.  It is fundamental to capitalism’s success that underneath all the finances, there MUST be something of value, whether it’s oil, steel, heavy equipment, food, the BEST sneakers, laptops, or tableware. Or even software or DVDs.  But there has to be SOMETHING of value.  Because that is was gives money its value. Otherwise it’s just paper.

China’s got it—production of things of value, we’ve been shipping ours overseas, and the acceleration of stripping our production and exporting it REALLY took off under the Reagan Revolution.

In a NYTImes piece today, it details the long range plan of China to replace the dollar with the yuan in ten years, by 2020.  This is a momentous change, China replacing the US as the world’s leading country.  the plans were apparently advanced because of the US and Western recession caused by a failure to regulate their corporations.

China’s industrial production, which is the major factor in trade, is already much larger than the US, and has been increasing in the past century five to eitht times as rapidly.  The US simply can’t compete economically with China, which has develop a kind of party capitalism, the banks and a third of the economy owned by the state.

The US statistics, as paul craig roberts and other economists say, are largely fabrications, disguising what is happening.  Surprisingly, China also downplays the size and pace of its economy, hiding, as Deng put it, its light under a bushel.  This is done to replace the US without war as the leading power.  Beucase of the current world recession, China has apparently sped up its plans, and plans to complete the transition in ten years.

nefesh, July 6 at 1:37 pm #

/sarc off
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Nefesh, don’t be a knee-jerk!
Rfidler’s entire post was intended as satire-and full of exaggerations to make that point.

When ANYTHING bad happens in the world, “The Contingent” blames Israel, AIPAC, Mossad, and the CIA (or NSA)—and the UN sanctions almost nobody but Israel.

folktruther:

You are just soooo credulous. Don’t you know that Michael Parenti is a CIA mole?! And no, the Dalai Lama is NOT on the CIA payroll, he’s being paid directly by the Israelis. (Oops, I guess that’s the same thing!)

Does anyone else besides you know that the US has been trying to split China in half? Does China know? Where do you get this shit?

Are “Uigyrs” the same as “Uighurs?” And are the “Uigyrs” ok with letting a “Uiger” manipulate them? I always thought it was pronounced “Uighur” you eurocentric anglophone anglophile wee-ner!

I see also that Truthdig, the NYTimes also leave the impression that the deaths were caused by the Chinese security.  In fact, in both cases, It was the Buddhist monks and the Uighur activissts attacking Han civilians that caused the deaths and uprisings.  A few activists, the NYTimes says a thousand, were beating Han civlians and killing them, as occured in the Tibet riots, the monks killing 19 Han civilians then.

Although both Uighur and Tibet leaders are based in Washington, apparently the formal Uigur government organ is based in Munich, just as the formal government organ of the Tibetans is based in India.

The attacks divert attention from the US support of the Honduras coup and the Iranian “Stolen Election.”  All of which being supported by the Zionists of course.

By Folktruther, July 6 at 3:31 pm #

The Dalai Lama and the Tibetans are on the CIA payroll, the Lama receiving about 185 thousand dollars a year according to Michael Parenti and others.

Right. If Michael Parenti said it then it must be true. He’s facile with the stale trademarked fringe-left talking points but there is little if any independent critical thinking behind his screeds.

This appears to be a follow up of the Tibetan incident to mar the Chinese olympics, this time to mar the 6oth annversary celebration of the Chinese revolution.

The Dalai Lama and the Tibetans are on the CIA payroll, the Lama receiving about 185 thousand dollars a year according to Michael Parenti and others.  They are based in India and want to detatch Tibet from China, since the himalayas have traditionally provided China a defense against military aggression. 

Therefore Tibetan monks attacked Han Chinese pedestrians, including Muslim Chinese, beating, wounding and killing to stir the Tibitans to revolt.  The Tibetan are, in fact, not treated equally with the Han, but live much better now than under the feudalism and slavery of the Dalai Lama rule.

The Uigyrs (pronounced wee-gers) are Muslims who are maniplated by Uiger leaders based in the US. Like the Tibetans, they are a few million who live in a huge terrority, as the Mongolians do.  their activists are often fanatical, two of them driving a truck a few months ago into an exercising group of unarmed securty troops.

Most Chinse live within several hundred miles of the Pacific ocean, in Eastern China.  Western china consists largely of deserts and mountains and is sparsly npopulated.  The US policy has always been to detach the West from the East in China, just as it dismembered the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, putting military pressure on China.  the US media, like Truthdig, supports US foreign policy, keeping the background facts from the American people.

By rfidler, July 6 at 11:27 am #

I have it on good authority that Zionists posing as Palestinian exchange students at the university in Urumqi and wearing police uniforms fired into the crowd. The CIA, which ran the operation using funds provided by AIPAC (see ThisIsNoShit.com/zionistpigs.html for verification),

Clearly your “authority” isn’t good enough to share with everyone. The only thing you have shared is more “blame the Jews” conspiracy nonsense.

But thank you, anyway, for your helpful and insightful contribution.

/sarc off

I have it on good authority that Zionists posing as Palestinian exchange students at the university in Urumqi and wearing police uniforms fired into the crowd. The CIA, which ran the operation using funds provided by AIPAC (see ThisIsNoShit.com/zionistpigs.html for verification), denies claims by Amnesty Int’l that the casualty figure could climb to well over 20,000 dead, mostly women, children, the poor and those wearing LGBT ribbons. (As proof of their claim, the CIA reports that all members of Amesty Int’l in China have been murdered and so could not possibly make there claim with any eye-witness level of veracity.)

Meanwhile, The U.N. Security Council maintains that, until they can agree on the proper spelling of Uighur (or is it Uighar?), sanctions will only be placed on Israel: Sanctions on China will have to wait.

think this might hurt China’s access to Middle Eastern oil?