Western medicine is a fiasco. People spend millions on pharmaceuticals that usually have raw sources, because the system tells them too. Now the system won’t even insure its citizens. Obama recently said that the majority of industrialized nations have single-payer but that the United States is different.

What the POTUS didn’t say, is that China and the U.S. stand alone in the world in the criminal, cruel and inhumane ways they treat their own. And like China, the United States incarcerates a huge number of its citizens who committed crimes mostly because they were poor and desperate and prison beats dying on the streets.

I left this culture decades ago, and I have been my own doctor for as long as I can remember. I suggest getting to know a Chinese herbalist; such people are extremely helpful & the track record for their medicine is at least as good as “ours.” And it’s affordable, natural, and treats the cause instead of the symptom of disease.

Medical cannabis is effective for treatment of chronic pain, nausea, arthritis, ADD, ADHD, depression and a host of related maladies. It’s the reason some of my friends are still with us. I bought two shop lights for $40 at the local hardware, along with four bulbs for another $12. This and a few grow pots is all I need to legally grow (I have a CA license) for my personal use. It’s a lot cheaper than the rubbish medications prescribed by American “doctors” at the bequest of Big Pharmaceuticals, and a lot safer. Nobody has died from cannabis drug interactions.

A friend who teaches chemistry at a major university claims his medical students are too stupid to even properly pour fluid into a beaker. Their commitment to helping others is nonexistent. Beware who you trust with your health, my friends.

Is my response the ideal solution? Maybe, maybe not, but at least I am healthy and free from the bullshit that passes for medicine in this savage nation.

FeralCat, it’s a shame Montanans can’t get together and recall Baucus.  That would be a hoot.  What an arrogant SOB—and I’m being kind here. 

We need a Daniel Webster to fight the devil that all these guys made a deal with, but I think this lot is beyond redemption.

Hey, Truthdig, did you know that your Google-placed advertising is part of the problem?

http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2009/06/points-of-view-on-health-care.html

The reason Congress wants to shove this healthcare plan down the pipes hurriedly, now is so people will have time to forget who SCREWED them before mid-term elections.BAUCUS is counting on that we forget.
If a bunch of our large progressive groups would come together to organise a protest we could maybe let Congress know who works for whom.
I would love to wipe that sh*t eating grin of Baucus face by taking his job from him.
He’s about the ugliest puke on Kolor film.

slow down. The real story is Michelle Obama:

Rep. Rush called for a House investigation last week in response to months of patient-dumping complaints, noting: “Congress has a duty to expend its power to mitigate and prevent this despicable practice from continuing in centers that receive federal funds.”

Don’t expect the president to support a probe. While a top executive at the hospital, Mrs. Obama helped engineer the plan to offload low-income patients with non-urgent health needs. Under the Orwellian banner of an “Urban Health Initiative,” Mrs. Obama sold the scheme to outsource low-income care to other facilities as a way to “dramatically improve health care for thousands of South Side residents.” The program guaranteed “free” shuttle rides to and from the outside clinics.

In truth, it was old-fashioned cost-cutting and favor-trading repackaged as minority aid. Clearing out the poor freed up room for insured (i.e., more lucrative) patients.

More from Joe Stephens of the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/21/AR2008082103646.html

I am getting tired of everything being focused on people like me, one of the 50 million or so without insurance.  I could get a crappy policy in my state tomorrow, just like what is being proposed in this bill.  It’s about $259 and with high co-pays, high deductibles and virtually covers nothing.  If I got this policy I could give up any idea of even modicum of dental care and forget about the eye care that I need (I’m one of millions of Americans who wear glasses).  Neither dental nor eye care is covered, nor are prescription drugs. 

Not to mention that this premium is still paid to big insurance.  In other words, it’s a policy that will leave you bankrupt if you really need it.  I would also have to stop eating healthy, give up the few standard supplements that I take every month to battle the severe depression and anxiety that was BigPharma’s gift to me after I took Paxil for six years (didn’t have these problems before taking the drug), give up things like yoga or a message.  As it is I can only do these things now because the people I go to have known me for years and know that I don’t have money.

Anyway, this is the way I see it.  It looks like this is what we are going to get from the bill.  From what I have seen Healthy New York (our plan) is like Massachusetts except it doesn’t have mandates—and we know how well the Massachusetts mess is working out.

Quote: “Did the American people really fill the White House and both chambers of Congress with Democrats in order to placate Republicans?”

It’s beginning to look that way.  The other possibility is that key members of Congress are being blackmailed by info gathered by the email intercepting, telephone tapping team of Bush, Cheney, rove, etc.

I don’t know what to believe any more.  It seems that this Congress and Obama are determined to continue what the Bush gang started…..destroying this country from the inside out.

re ; hidflect - and there is no protest because we as a people either hate our country or have given it up to the gray suited grafters, either way we can’t get it back til we rid it of the scum

I’m hoping that if real health care reform is destroyed, by the corporate crooks in Washington, that American’s will consider a national month of protests, including civil disobedience, strikes, and protests, similar to what’s happening in Iran.

Let’s show the world that American’s are willing to take it to the streets too, when their being cheated by a bunch of crooks.

The GOP has no health care plan. Their plan is simple,it’s a health insurance plan and it’s “EAT SHIT AND DIE AMERICANS” NO HEALTH CARE is better than the bogeyman “socialized medicine” any/all government options. Why Obama just doesn’t say the EAT SHIT AND DIE GOP non-plan is not a plan it’s a scare tactic. This would require leadership on Obama’s part a quality he doesn’t seem to have.

You get what you pay for…

Since there’s no river of protest, Max “Hardcore” Baucus will assume he’s doin’ the right thing.

Clean cut people who wear suits are death tokens.