KDelphi is right, anarcissie.  There has to be some form of govnerment, whatever it is called.  The problem is how to get the population to control it.  People have to be trained from childhood to control power, instead of identifying with being controled by power.

And the side of no govt would be Somalia?

The only thing big about the uS govt is the politicians salaries, the lobbyists donations and our mlitary budget.

If the Dems wanted to roll back Patriot Act, etc, they could do it. The pity is that anybody thought that they would.

Anarcissie, your’s is the voice of clarity as always. Must be the math gene.

The American people still don’t understand that 9/11 was used as an excuse to change our form of rule.  The endless War on Terrorism, initiated by the Bushite regime and rebranded and continued by Obama, APPLIES TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS WELL.  We are potential Terrorists as well, Terrorism being defined asthe oppostiion of the US power structure.  the military handbook training US army units for action against the American people defines demonstrations as ‘low level terrorism.’

The US under Bush-Obama has become a police state and is continually getting more despotic.  You have to look at what is done, not what is said.  the US population is being systematically dispowered so we can be more easily made economically destitute.  the US government is not your friend, it has been captured by neoliberals who are bent on increasing economic inequality.  And this can only be done by violence, ocercion, deceit and barbarism.

Instead of paying the people working for NSA,  many who do not know our language or misinterpret what they hear, pay me instead and I will tell them what they want to hear, without the next link in the chain that they compromise. In fact i have a rate chart already for them.Put in any amount you want.Prices are subject to change without notice or warning.

Questions…...............................$100.00 each
Questions that require thought…..........$200.00 each
Question with true answers…..............$500.00 each
Dumb looks are still free.

It is obvious that governments have far too much time on their hands, especially when it comes to other people’s money. Let us start to balance the budget by downsizing government starting with all those in favor of only voting “NO!”

to Clark: Fascism is marked by indifference to human life, so take a look at your post.

I noticed that when I wrote some harsh words about the #%$ or the &$# My Mac would misfunction until the shutoff notice would work it’s way through.  Someone did kick in my door and steal my Mac though….Coincidence?? this PC runs windows 95 and is like mowing my lawn with a push reel mower! ALL our information is on file since 9/11.Nachio went to prison for not playing ball with the Neo-cons. It only comes into play if you want to join the pyramid of world power….......

The surveillance or security state is, of course, the other side of big government.  Or little government, for that matter.