If it is not this program it will be the ISP. What is to stop China from denying access to anything it deem ‘dangerous’ or ‘unsavoury’? Nothing. There is also nothing that stops them from blowing up satellites that provide the network, or cutting the underground cables that carries them. Nothing!

Wow! Chinese censors block political content as well as porn. Why didn’t you splash this as a news alert worldwide? Oh I know, because it is so blatantly obvious, even to my grandmother, who doesn’t even know what the internet is! If you’re going to dig some truth at least dig some that doesn’t make the world collectively say, ‘duh!’

WykydRed, was about to post when I read yours, which is what I intended to say. Also: China has a lot going for it despite its tendency to suppress dissent wherever they find it, but it’s really too populous to keep all the people in line all of the time. In fact its biggest problem is financial corruption at all levels of government as well as the government/private sector, including such basics as medical research facilities. Once enough people tumble to that, there will be great pressure for changes in the oligarch class that pretty much dominates the so-called communist government.

Capitalists love China for their ideology, however China is proving to be the smarter of the Capitalists, because they have all the money and the US has none. Don’t forget that the american propaganda machine is oiled even for the people we love, like China!

so true, beer doctor.

I would add here, keeping today’s Chris Hedges column in mind, the propaganda war that our MSM has declared on China,

will be and is, well-remembered by the Chinese, much to our country’s detriment.

Before all this evolves into some strange Sino-American hissy fit, I would like to point out something the writer Joe Bageant noted, that China much like America is caught in its own corporate consumerist trap, complete with McDonald’s and obese “one child” per family children. Even their own management scandals, such as holding back the news on melamine contamination, so as to not disturb its positive branding, during the hosting of the Olympics. But being an overtly authoritarian corporate state, the exposed iron fist makes for a convenient propaganda background, to advocate how much better things are in the USA. At the same time, our corporate task masters simply love China, for what they see as an inexhaustible source for cheap labor, which enables them to reap huge profits from goods that cost next to nothing to produce.
China, with its huge workforce earning meager wages, also is often portrayed in American right wing media as the red pajama nightmare of John Birch Society fame. This retro-cold-war language that never goes completely out of style.
It would be better to acknowledge that China’s government, like the United States government, is chiefly concerned with population control on all levels. Ironic too that Americans of any stripe, who now feign such concern for human rights over in there in the mainland, seem to forget our own yellow peril past.

this is no “ear to the ground” by the way, this should be in a section called: “Ear to the NED”

come on Truthdig, enough already!!

Surprise, surprise, the New York Times publishes yet another piece bashing China - they even pull out the tired Falun Gong card, again.

see here for the truth behind their motives:

Waging Democracy On China
Human Rights and an Endowment for Democracy
Michael Barker
http://www.swans.com/library/art14/barker03.html

China is a communist country.  It’s a sad day if this is the first thing that enrages Americans about the Chinese government.  Censorship and communism just go hand in hand.  Look at Stalin.  Sad, but true.

Well duuuuh. This is a surprise?

And before Americans get all uppity and start “demanding” freedom in China for computer users, remember when you dolts demanded the American Government go postal and remove ALL “pornography” from the internet to protect ... “The Chillllldren!” A court had to remind you dolts that you cannot remove the rights of adults with cries of protecting children because that’s a PARENT’S JOB.

Clean up your own act before demanding China and Australia remove their moralistic bullshit.

You knew this was coming. As the late Frank Zappa said: “Who are the brain police?”