Johannes writes:

“Well are they happy now, wath will be the next step, maby to forbid, or even prohibit the marrying of men and woman.”

Johannes, that kind of warped logic was beautifully satirized by Lewis Caroll in one of the “Alice” books, in which the pompous, deranged queen says:

“A hill? You may call it a hill, by I have seen hills in comparison with which that is a valley!”

To be honest and fair against other people who have other ways of living and thinking, every body has the right to do as he likes, and to geth happy.

But some times the people are not playing the game, if you start to open clubs and bars for gay’s and lesbians, and forbid hetero’s to visit, and play the economic closed cirkel business, thats not fair, and creates bad blood.

Well I stil think to be married should be for men and woman, its old as the world, its done for their children and heritage.

Salutations

About time the LAWs of this country recognize that happily consenting adults can form partnerships and call them “marriage”.

I say again that government should NOT be in the “marriage” business, only the “domestic partnership” business.  Let religious and private orgs define “marriage” as they will.

I think if two men or two women want to live their lives together as a married couple, that’s just fine.  They have at least as good a chance of success as any man and woman to make it.

Besides, what IS a marriage? 95% of the time it’s doing and building things together. 5% of the time it’s having sex (if you are super-active).  Do the math: There are 24 hours in a day—you have to spend 1.2 hours EVERY DAY having sex just to reach 5%. If you are only figuring waking hours (assuming 16), then 5% is 50 minutes every single day spent in having sex.

So…what are you going to do with that other 95%?  How much REALLY has anything to do with gender? You’re earning a living, keeping a household, walking the dog, teaching a child, sitting in traffic, watching a movie—living.

The flat out hateful and idiotic assertion that STRAIGHT marriage will be outlawed is simply moral bankruptcy.  In fighting for same-sex marriage, gays are fighting to have the same kind of life straights have—they want the same normalcy in all the other aspects of life that straights enjoy.

How does that threaten straight marriage? It doesn’t. If anything, it STRENGTHENS it and shows it to be one flavor of an ideal relationship between two happy adults.

So how does it REALLY impact us?  About the only thing I can think of is etiquette: At a straight wedding you’re supposed to say “congratulations” to the groom and “best wishes” to the bride. (this harks back to the idea that the REVERSE is insulting to both).  So what’s correct etiquette for wishing the best at a Gay wedding?

Once I know that, I’m all set!

(I never mind going to weddings, odd for a guy. But I look at that I am not the one up there desperate to get it right, to look right and not to make a fool of ones self.  All I have to do is wear a suit, eat, drink and dance and have a great time!)

By johannes, June 4 at 4:05 am #

Well are they happy now, wath will be the next step, maby to forbid, or even prohibit the marrying of men and woman.

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Oh come on,Johannes! That’s just really absurd. And people don’t look for something different to do just to annoy the people who don’t like them doing it. It’s called freedom. Of imagination, of the soul, the mind, the body. Funny what happens when no one has the right to demand others not do a thing they don’t agree with, huh?

Well are they happy now, wath will be the next step, maby to forbid, or even prohibit the marrying of men and woman.

In Europe they have all the freedom, but they are looking all the time to find something new, to annoy
the normal people, its not the problem thath they are differend in sexuel behavior, but they are a kind of mad, and jelous on normal people.

Salutions

Ed Harges wrote: “Gay people are like poor “Sissy”-phus, and conservatives are the big, stupid stone that has to be rolled up the hill, over and over and over.”

Yeah, the stone’s beginning to crumble but it took everything going to hell to get this far with gay rights. I saw a John Water’s film (either Pink Flamingos or Female Trouble) and Edith Massey’s character was opining on men:

“If they’re intelligent, they’re queer;
if they’re stupid they’re straight.”

Sorry for being so politically incorrect but I can because I’ve got the gay, right?

Re: By Thomas Mc, June 3 at 9:32 pm:

Yeah. Conservatives are so that, aren’t they?

Gay people are like poor “Sissy”-phus, and conservatives are the big, stupid stone that has to be rolled up the hill, over and over and over.

Only, unlike in the Greek myth, there’s hope here: the stone is at long last starting to get noticeably smaller.

Hawkeye, I know you don’t care about gay people, but this is an important issue for those of us who are concerned about equal rights. The economy and health care are more important, but not really germane to this discussion, except maybe to say that more marriages definitely would not hurt the economy.

Anyways, bravo New Hampshire! As someone else stated, Obama is now TO THE RIGHT OF DICK CHENEY, time for him to get with the program.

OK, so Iowa, New Hampshire, and Dick Cheney are all now to the left of Obama on this issue.

How frickin’ politically safe does Obama have to feel before he can endorse gay marriage - and also, by the way, put an end to “don’t ask, don’t tell”, as he explicitly promised in his campaign?

Don’t hold your breath. Just as Obama will not take a firm stand against the Israel lobby until the day that Joe Lieberman declares his admiration for Norman Finkelstein, Obama won’t endorse gay marriage until the day that Joe Lieberman and Norman Finkelstein are married in Iowa, at the state capital building, with Pat Robertson conducting the ceremony.

Why have the Conservatives been on the wrong side of EVERY civil liberties issue? Oh, right, because they are EVIL.

Lynch is a Democrat, not a Republican. 

Thankfully, he didn’t let his own personal beliefs taint his decision to do what was right. 

His exceptions are a bit humorous to me.  NO church ever has - or ever could be - forced to perform a gay marriage.  And I can’t imagine there are many of us who would want to be married in a church that was being forced to do it (if that were possible)...

This is the kind of concession I think we’re happy to make.

That doesn’t mean I don’t hope to see a grand outdoor wedding ceremony on the streets of Salt Lake City, across from Temple Square someday…

Its the economy, stupid!

At the top of this list for everyone concerned about their jobs, income, electric bills, education and house payments and such, it is the economy, stupid!

Now the U.S. Congress is buzzing with their plan to shoot down anymore talk about healthcare reform, like single-payer approach, those like Bauchus and Schumer are lined up with the GOP on this one. They need that healthcare industry money to hold onto power, with elections just around the corner.

These puppet politicians are devoted to pushing this status quo arrangement with the healthcare industry rats, come hell or high water.

GD those ratz. The send out their agents to tout there cause on the “news” shows,  they have their mainstream media cohorts slamming single-payer and condemning Canadian and UK healthcare.

Today, Sen. Bennett told of his own experience in Scotland several years ago. It boilded down to the fact that he was told he would have to wait nine months or so for a non-urgent surgery. He decided to pay a private Scottish physician to do the operation. Funny, he had insurance in the USA.

Such a bunch of bull, they are pushing hard to block single-pay for ordinary citizens, of which more and more can expect to be unemployed in coming months.

It is a sicko congress for which we are taxed to support their corrupt ways and hand down horrible decisions for bailouts and running up debt. Nothing could be worse, I guess, but some ruthless, evil dictator like Joseph Stalin, I guess.

Californians aren’t “rednecks”, Bob. Their brains are just loose from all that shakin’.

Wanna defeat Prop. 8 in California? Demand that all these religos use their OWN money to get to CA (and especially the Mormons) who have no say in your state but insist on showing up “in numbers” to con the rest of America into believing they’re a bigger majority than they really are.

Or just hit the people bussed in with paint balls to “mark” them and talk to the press to let them know those marked don’t even live in the state.

Propaganda and paintballs. It’s like PETA and paint.

The New England states are making us Californians look like a bunch of “rednecks”.