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 Abortion Doctor Murdered in ChurchPosted on May 31, 2009
Dr. George Tiller was volunteering at his Kansas church Sunday when a gunman shot him dead. Republicans in Congress recently made a villain of Tiller when they stalled the confirmation of Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius to head the Department of Health and Human Services. Tiller, who performed late-term abortions, had made campaign contributions to Sebelius.
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By dr2bee86, June 7, 2009 at 10:42 am Link to this comment
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I hope the man who (premeditated 1st degree MURDER) MURDERED this doctor serves the rest of his life in a maximum security prison isolated in a 4x8 cell and is condemned to hell when he finally dies.
The sickest part about it he was gunned down during a church service, his wife along with friends were watching.
What did he do to deserve this? NOTHING. This doctor, husband, grandfather, father, friend, uncle, etc., etc. was simply doing his job: to serve the women in this country of democracy where we SHOULD have the freedom to chose how we handle our PERSONAL issues and not be hated on for it. Let me say it again. Abortion of any kind is a PERSONAL issue.
I am not a “baby killer” as some of you pro life people call the pro choice group. Me, along with many other pro choice people feel this way because we believe that in this country people should have the right to chose on personal issues, and keep them personal and have a right to privacy when the decision is made. The freedom of choice on religion, political views, speech, culture, and personal issues including abortions are what make this country great. And it should be upheld.
If you think abortion is wrong, simply don’t get one when your pregnant—simple as that. These radicals need to stop hating and killing other people who are just serving the rights of women in this country, stop bombing clinics and putting innocent people in danger. STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING AND LIVE THE LIFE YOU WANT TO LIVE AND DON’T PRESSURE OTHERS TO DO THE SAME.
I can assure you 100% that the entire church is hurting right now. Especially the ones who witnessed the killing of a person in their congregation. This murderer has hurt sooo many more people than this one doctor. His wife watched the man she fell in love with get shot by a cold blooded monster. Im sorry there is no way to justify a premeditated murder of a person.
AGAIN ALL I CAN SAY IS THESE RADICAL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE NEED TO STOP HATING, STOP DISCRIMINATING AND TAKING AWAY THE PEACE THAT THIS COUNTRY SHOULD HAVE. LEARN TO RESPECT DIFFERENCES AND TOLERATE OTHERS. SERIOUSLY. YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF LOW LIFE HIPPOCRATES.
Report thisBy "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, June 3, 2009 at 2:02 pm Link to this comment
REF: Hawkeye
Yanking babies for Satan is the woist thing I even hoid. Meatball surgery, meatball surgery, meatball surgery, meatball surgery, meatball surgery…
Report thisBy "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, June 3, 2009 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment
Who would you rather be when we all stand in front of God on the Day of Judgment? The man who killed babies or the man who stopped the man from killing babies?—AbuMubarak
Look pal, if I have to stand in front of a fairytale character to be judged, it sure as hell ain’t gonna be some uninspired lame-ass cliche like God. I’ll choose some kind of baby-eating troll for whom an aborted fetus is a delicacy (you know, like the Christians view Mohammed).
Report thisBy WykydRed, June 3, 2009 at 1:20 pm Link to this comment
Too little too late, from the Huffington Post. Wait until the Anti-Smokers start killing people for vaping e-cigs! Yeah. it’s gonna happen.
Pro-Life Preacher apologizes for his and his father’s part in the murder
Report thisBy david, June 3, 2009 at 1:06 pm Link to this comment
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Wow..some truly amazingly small mindedness on display here..where does one even start..Abu, I assume you are Muslim, or you’re just a right winger posing as a Muslim…which of the Muslim countries stone their women to death for almost any reason they deem necessary? And Abu, I want to be the one that stands before God on judgement day and said I killed not one of HIS creations. The doctors who perform the abortions, the women who choose to have them, and the hateful Nazis who think it is their place to do God’s work for Him will all have to stand before God on judgement day. My savior, Jesus Christ, just before he died on the cross, forgave the very ones who had just murdered him, and notbyjingo purports to know how Jesus feels about one of his children being gunned down in a church? Someone please explain to me how you have worked this twisted logic out in your little pea size brains that it makes sense to you to condemn and murder a doctor who performs these procedures and abortion is murder, but the death penalty is quite alright.
Report thisOh, and in case you have forgotten, there are thousands of unadopted children across this nation that would love to be given a home but someone who puts such a value on life. But, that’s right..you don’t want to adopt any babies, you just want to tell women what they can or can’t do with THEIR OWN bodies. You cry and moan about your precious gun rights being threatened ( and I own several), but to hell with the rights of others who think differently than you. Here’s a tip for you..turn off the hate mongers on the right wing radio you listen to..go outside, take a deep breath of fresh air..if you don’t like the politics in our country then do the grassroots work necessary to elect people that represent your views. Right wingers complain that Pres. Obama has a veto proof majority and the Dems control both the House and Senate. Guess what, It hasn’t been but just a few years ago that GW and the GOP had the same advantage, but squandered it trying to kill the man that dared insult his daddy. Blame yourselves.
By ardee, June 2, 2009 at 3:42 pm Link to this comment
AbuMubarak, June 2 at 8:33 am #
“Amazing….....Some of you are astonished that “religionists” are applauding premeditated murder? Isn’t infanticide the ultimate in premeditated murder?”
“Knowing the difference between right and wrong are the answers, and it seems that today, we can no longer differentiate between right and wrong.”
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Yeah, and one of those who cannot seem to distinguish between right and wrong would be you.
Right, believing abortion is wrong and working to make it illegal.
Wrong, applauding the nut job who murdered the father of four and grandfather of ten.
You have not, I presume, seen any of the case files of the patients receiving late term procedures from this now deceased doctor?
You haven’t a clue as to the medical necessity for that procedure as well. Did the fetus even have a brain stem? Was it at all viable outside the womb? Was the mother’s life in jeopardy? You do not know nor do you care.
No, instead you create a fiction based upon nothing concrete or of any value that, one sunny day, a woman who had a carried a fetus around for five months decides, “well, my clothes no longer fit, my back hurts all the time, and Im bored being pregnant, I think Ill go to Kansas and have that ogre pull the damn thing out of me.”
You are one very silly, or very tormented little fellow sir.
Report thisBy AbuMubarak, June 2, 2009 at 5:33 am Link to this comment
You either believe in the rule of law or the rule of the mob. You apparently have chosen the mob.
Democracy is exactly that…rule of the mob. Where 51% get a chance to oppress the 49%. Democracy is not what legalized abortion, it was a Supreme Court decision.
Nazi Germany had many “rules of law”. So cliches are not the answer. Knowing the difference between right and wrong are the answers, and it seems that today, we can no longer differentiate between right and wrong.
Report thisBy ardee, June 2, 2009 at 3:59 am Link to this comment
AbuMubarak, June 2 at 5:34 am #
Amazing….....Some of you are astonished that “religionists” are applauding premeditated murder? Isn’t infanticide the ultimate in premeditated murder?
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You either believe in the rule of law or the rule of the mob. You apparently have chosen the mob.
Next time you come up for air try and understand that you know nothing of the case histories of those who got so-called “late term abortions”, nothing of the viability of the fetus, nothing of the threats to the life of the mother in these few cases that upset you so very much.
I have always pondered the extreme right who love the unborn so much and then advocate nothing but misery for them once they are born.
Report thisBy AbuMubarak, June 2, 2009 at 2:34 am Link to this comment
Amazing….....Some of you are astonished that “religionists” are applauding premeditated murder? Isn’t infanticide the ultimate in premeditated murder?
This guy was worse than Cheney, Hitler, Stalin. At least they had the justification of killing their “enemies”. Doctors do not even have that reasoning in their corner.
I have more respect for one of those army guys dropping a bomb on a million innocent people than I have on the American social system of justifying aborting a million innocent babies.
At least the soldier is following orders. What justification do we have of killing babies?
I know in the heads of many of you, you have found justification. But the reality is that there is none. (Excluding the occasional rape, incest, and other anomalies that you guys like to use)
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, June 1, 2009 at 9:54 pm Link to this comment
Folktruther, June 1 at 8:44 pm #
I’m astonished that Aba and the others are publically applauding premeditated murder. I wonder what fraction of the American people join them. I don’t remember Abu being a raving loony like the religous right. Apparently we are back to lynching again, encouraged by one Gop section of the power struture, tolerated by the Dems.
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I’m with you on this one, FT! You need to learn never to assume that because someone agrees with you on one thing (like your view on Israel) that they won’t completely astonish and repel you on another issue—like applauding the murder of a doctor.
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, June 1, 2009 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment
Hawkeye, June 1 at 2:37 pm #
REF: BOBZ
There once was an old doctor named Tiller,
Some people insisted he was just a killer.
He snipped little heads off into the trash,
Until one day some stranger settled his hash.
Got Jesus?
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No, in view of this post I conclude you are not dyslexic.
Your are a sadistic hate-filled moral bankrupt who thinks he owns all women’s vaginas and uteruses and therefore can decide for them what they can do with them.
Your “humorous” poem proves it conclusively. Get help. You need it.
Report thisBy Hesperion, June 1, 2009 at 8:55 pm Link to this comment
Hawkeye, Strain the gnats from your wine and ignore the big splinter in your own eye! I am NOT one of you murder supporters. Get your own house in order. I am done with you now.
Report thisBy jc, June 1, 2009 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment
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Do not let them religious senseless idiots in charge especially in church, what happened to common courtesy, guess when your one of the chosen gods house becomes open season. An old saying was do not let a few bad apples spoil it for the rest, extreme virtue is exposing the rest of the idiots in their sun worship. Hopefully they get the electric chair for his “hate crime”!
Report thisBy Hesperion, June 1, 2009 at 7:22 pm Link to this comment
Folktruther, What took you so long LOL. Why are you “astonished” that these bloodthirsty relgionists are celebrating cold-blooded murder? It’s one of their “sacraments”.
AbuMubarak, You stand for yourself, I will stand for myself. “thou shalt not kill…” What about this do you not get. Religious Robots are not something that pleases God. Get your head on right!
Report thisBy AbuMubarak, June 1, 2009 at 7:11 pm Link to this comment
Who would you rather be when we all stand in front of God on the Day of Judgment? The man who killed babies or the man who stopped the man from killing babies?
Report thisBy Folktruther, June 1, 2009 at 5:44 pm Link to this comment
I’m astonished that Aba and the others are publically applauding premeditated murder. I wonder what fraction of the American people join them. I don’t remember Abu being a raving loony like the religous right. Apparently we are back to lynching again, encouraged by one Gop section of the power struture, tolerated by the Dems.
Report thisBy godistwaddle, June 1, 2009 at 4:16 pm Link to this comment
I KNOW my mom was proud of her abortion. She wrote a long letter to the state legislature in the 70’s explaining her position and her support of abortion rights.
With the American right-wing domination of the world, caring women abort their fetuses so they don’t get exploited by predatory capitalism.
Did I ever miss not having an older sibling? Well, no. I had my hand full with my younger sister. I don’t suppose Muslim kids miss St. Ursula, either.
Report thisBy "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, June 1, 2009 at 12:53 pm Link to this comment
Hawkeye,
Please have the common decency to abort yourself before your Christbot programming causes you say something even more retarded. Thanks in advance.
Go Pilate!
Report thisBy "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, June 1, 2009 at 12:26 pm Link to this comment
So Tiller the baby killer finally received his long over due promotion to the Home Office in Hell good for him—driving bear
You know, if Mary would have just had a coat hanger, we wouldn’t be in this mess! And if Joeseph had had any real balls, he’d have simply tossed that bastard child on a pitch fork fresh out of the womb! And the world could have been saved 2000 years of misery.
Report thisBy "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, June 1, 2009 at 12:16 pm Link to this comment
A man who killed babies got smoked. ‘Nuff said—AbuMubarak
AbuMubarak smokes pole. ‘Nuff smoked.
Report thisBy BobZ, June 1, 2009 at 10:49 am Link to this comment
Another middle aged white guy out of control - Homeland Security was right. We really do have a number of right wing wing nuts out there who listen way too much to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and own guns. The anti-choice extremists are out of control once again.
Report thisBy thebeerdoctor, June 1, 2009 at 9:43 am Link to this comment
According to the anti-abortion crowd, now all fetuses that they always call babies must come to term, no matter if its a ten year old girl who was raped by her father, or an expectant mother who discovers after ultrasound that the baby is growing without a head, or a slipped birth control device that has a 100% chance of birth defects, just like Thalidamide.
Report thisNo, for these foaming mouth birth enthusiasts, they follow the precepts that they perceive in their holy book: “woman is the origin of sin, it is through her we all die.”
They are so holy and righteous, they will kill you if you disagree.
Where have we heard this before?
By godistwaddle, June 1, 2009 at 9:22 am Link to this comment
As we did after the terror of 9/11 (rounding up all the Muslims), we should now do after this terror attack (round up all the christians in the area and subject them to harsh conditions until they give up the cell which planned this thing).
Report thisBy godistwaddle, June 1, 2009 at 8:56 am Link to this comment
My mother was SO proud of her decision to have an abortion in the 30’s. It reinforced her view of herself as a thinking woman and human. It occurred long before my conception, but I sometimes wish she’d had another, so i didn’t have to deal with Christ-tards and Christ-freaks. They are despicable.
Report thisBy bluejeanne, June 1, 2009 at 8:39 am Link to this comment
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By Hawkeye, June 1 at 1:54 am #
THEY BRING IT ON THEMSELVES!
The entire planet has a “deathwish” that is called WAR. We are on a suicidal course on this chaotic Earth and woman have an “instinct’ as to whether they are prepared to bring new life into such an atmosphere. Unless one is prepared to risk his own life for another he has nothing to say in the matter. Whether a woman gives birth or her pregnancy is terminated; she is stil at risk to lose her own life.
Therefore it is imperative that women have the ” right to choose ” since they are risking their own lives no matter what the outcome of their pregnancy.
The brave Doctor who was violently gunned down had four children of his own and he was courageous to assist women to distinguish between a catastrophic birth and a successful pregnancy. It is tragic that this society is so polarized on this issue that there actually are people who do not understand what a grievous act has been committed and in what an untenable predicament this leaves many women.
Report thisBy godistwaddle, June 1, 2009 at 7:39 am Link to this comment
All thinking fetuses cry out to be aborted rather than be birthed into this cesspool world. Imagine having to be born into most “third-world” countries, where global capitalism exploits you to death. Left-wingers, too, should arm, and heavily.
The only good christian I ever saw was dead.
Report thisBy Jim Yell, June 1, 2009 at 7:35 am Link to this comment
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We have the unsocial and unpleasant Phelps family that constantly makes a “jackass” of themselves. A small minded, small group of people whose sexual practices might be worth investigation.
We had Eric Rudoplh blowing up innocent people and running around the country for ages before being caught. Nothing was done to the organizations (also called churches) which encouraged his dillusional actions and probably protected him on the run. Why? And, can it be that the reason for this current murder happening is because a lot of people thought it ok to encourage such behavior?
This whole argument could be put to rest. Any group trying to force women to carry a pregnancy to term would have to pay a large tax, so that others do not have to support the unwanted results of certain pregnancy. It is not pro life to over load the world with a mass of people whose weight on the environment and ability of the world to hold itself in balance is already yielding such horrible results.
Stop giving these people a pass because they claim to be “pro-life”.
Report thisBy ardee, June 1, 2009 at 3:54 am Link to this comment
Hawkeye, June 1 at 1:54 am #
THEY BRING IT ON THEMSELVES!
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So now , in your twisted world, the victim is the criminal. You need help. This is about a murder of a man, not about overreaching philosophical arguments.
NotByJingo, May 31 at 9:30 pm #
Now, Dr. Tiller knows exactly what the Lord thinks about his dangerous line of work.
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You seem to worship a rather cruel deity, why I wonder? The report noted that a human being pulled the trigger, nothing was mentioned about a thunderbolt from above.
Report thisBy espaz, May 31, 2009 at 8:25 pm Link to this comment
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well said ardee. FN well said. if i was a better composer that’s exactly what i would have written. i can’t believe some of the narrow minded posts i read here sometimes. what the fuck are these people thinking. are they thinking that women are going out and getting abortions for the FN fun of it?? this shit pisses me off cause our lives shouldn’t be being needled into by fn religous wack jobs. i mean…did someone actually reference “the lord”.....wake up people..mankind has left it’s infancy. we can now live by social rules without having to live within a religous framework that uses superstition to keep folks in line. WE CAME FROM THE OCEAN….we evolved dumb shit !! there IS no god…. and people arent getting abortions for the fun of it !! stay out of our goddamn lives.
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, May 31, 2009 at 8:12 pm Link to this comment
peterjkraus, May 31 at 9:33 pm #
This is terrorism: not some kids protesting World Trade in Seattle, not PETA activists rescuing animals, not Iraqis wanting their life without invaders back. THIS is the real thing, and the press treats it like a hit-and-run. See some of the comments on this page to judge the ethics of an astounding number of readers. Then see what the press and tv do tomorrow.
A shame, a crying shame, what this country is going through. Abortion is legal, despite all the hue and cry of the Jesus freaks, and threatening, harassing and killing abortion providers is terrorism.
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I hate how “Pro-life” phony hypocrites are applauding a murder.
If you think Dr. Tiller and his colleagues are committing murder, then get the laws changed either domestically or in International Law, and PROSECUTE THEM!
Otherwise you are no different than terrorists, than the Fatwas sanctioning killing Salman Rushdie and Shahpur Bahktiar.
If morally killing doctors how perform abortion is OK, then killing anti-abortionists who cheer those killing is morally OK as well.
You want to live in anarchic society where anyone can kill anyone just because the victim is “a bad person”? Fine! But you damn well better expect people to respond to you in kind. Go into any big city ghetto and you’ll see what the life you advocate is like.
Morally bankrupt bastards.
Report thisBy jimfromthefoothills, May 31, 2009 at 7:02 pm Link to this comment
Lets see if our president casper milqutoast has anything more to say except “darn”.
Report thisBy GB, May 31, 2009 at 6:48 pm Link to this comment
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There’s some really sick people walking among us. Someone who provides a legal service gets murdered and that’s OK but when bush and cheney murdered a million innocent men, women, and children in the middle east with cluster munitions that rip the body apart and torture for the sake of greed, this is OK.
Report thisYou religious idiots aren’t christian. Being christian means to follow the teachings of Jesus who would look at you as the followers of Rome. You all definately have a lot of screws loose in your head. Go to texas and start your own country and leave the civilized 21st century to peace. Take cheney, rove and Fox teevee with you.
By peterjkraus, May 31, 2009 at 6:33 pm Link to this comment
This is terrorism: not some kids protesting World Trade in Seattle, not PETA activists rescuing animals, not Iraqis wanting their life without invaders back. THIS is the real thing, and the press treats it like a hit-and-run. See some of the comments on this page to judge the ethics of an astounding number of readers. Then see what the press and tv do tomorrow.
A shame, a crying shame, what this country is going through. Abortion is legal, despite all the hue and cry of the Jesus freaks, and threatening, harassing and killing abortion providers is terrorism.
Report thisBy NotByJingo, May 31, 2009 at 6:30 pm Link to this comment
Now, Dr. Tiller knows exactly what the Lord thinks about his dangerous line of work.
It’s hard to imagine a mild-mannered Lutheran doing late-term abortions, believe it or not, late-term abortions are the epitome of cruel.
I wonder if the person who shot Dr. Tiller was in grief from losing a child, grandchild or family member from a late term abortion?
We can look forward to the actions of this shooter being endlessly dissected, diagnosed and talked about on media talk shows now for years.
Report thisBy ardee, May 31, 2009 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment
AbuMubarak, May 31 at 7:14 pm #
A man who killed babies got smoked. ‘Nuff said
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Not enough said, not at all!
The procedures known as late term abortion are rarely performed. Very few a year in the entire nation in fact. When they are done it is generally performed on a fetus that cannot survive outside the womb and when the mother’s life is threatened by continuing the pregnancy.
Abortion is not a subject that should be treated lightly or with the knee jerk reaction that you demonstrate. Your comment is ridiculous on the face of it as you condemn abortion as murder but support another sort of murder. What does that say about you?
I believe that President Clinton had the best take on this subject when he noted that.” abortion should be safe, legal and rare”.
Report thisBy driving bear, May 31, 2009 at 6:20 pm Link to this comment
So Tiller the baby killer finally received his long over due promotion to the Home Office in Hell good for him
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, May 31, 2009 at 5:06 pm Link to this comment
A dangerous line of work.
Report thisBy Hesperion, May 31, 2009 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment
Randall Terry is available for comment at 904-687-9804
Report thisBy mill, May 31, 2009 at 4:30 pm Link to this comment
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Hesperion has it right ... the act was religious terrorism ... can’t go to church without fear ... and an odd way to interpret the “Don’t kill” Commandment
Report thisBy Hesperion, May 31, 2009 at 4:22 pm Link to this comment
AbuMubarak = supporter of terrorism. “nuff said”
Report thisBy Hesperion, May 31, 2009 at 4:19 pm Link to this comment
Operation Rescue has denied and condemned this stunt. Interestingly, their web site is off line suddenly! They can deny and blah, blah all they want but the residents of Wichita, KS that lived through the “Summer of Misery” and their bombings, shootings, attacks and threats (including threats against patients of the clinic) know differently. The David Koresh-like Randall Terry and his morbidly obsessed cult is up to their eye-balls in this thing. They are a terrorist organization and should be handled as such. That goes for ANY of these vigilante, religious fanatic groups and hate-talk-show personalities that have whipped up this desperate frenzy and rabble and disrupted the peace.
Report thisBy AbuMubarak, May 31, 2009 at 4:14 pm Link to this comment
A man who killed babies got smoked. ‘Nuff said
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