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Taking From the Poor

Posted on May 22, 2009
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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger talking to reporters about the state’s budget crisis on Thursday.

On Tuesday, Californian voters refused to pass Gov. Schwarzenegger’s ballot measures aimed at fixing the state’s budget crisis by increasing taxes, redistributing funds and borrowing money. Read the Truthdig article on the subject here.

Washington offered little hope in lending money to California, fearing it would set a precedent, with other states demanding the same help.

As a result, Schwarzenegger announced a plan to fill the gap of the budget crisis by attacking the poor. He is considering eliminating the state’s main welfare program, as well as health insurance that caters to low-income families and children, and CalGrants, a financial aid program for low- and middle-income college students.

The Los Angeles Times:

With deficit forecasts growing darker by the day, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is considering a plan to slash California’s safety net for the poor by eliminating the state’s main welfare program, health insurance for low-income families and cash grants to college students.

The stark proposal surfaced in testimony by the administration at a joint legislative hearing Thursday that followed the governor’s decision to withdraw a week-old plan to borrow $5.5 billion to help balance the budget.

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By Folktruther, May 25, 2009 at 6:02 pm Link to this comment

Taking money from the rich is always a good idea, Peter, and especially from someone like you, even if you are not rich. Swartzneiger started out as governor with hundreds of millions of dollars and probably by now has billions. Charging him a small fee to be governor seems only right, say fifty million a year.  To discourage the others.

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By Jean Gerard, May 25, 2009 at 12:33 pm Link to this comment
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Apologies for not knowing about Arnold’s donating his salary.  I’m sure, however, that he has not missed it, and the principle behind my suggestion still stands. Of course it’s not THE answer—only a step in the right direction.

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By Peter, May 24, 2009 at 8:30 pm Link to this comment
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    The first thing Arnold Schwarzenneger announced when he first ran for governor was that he would not take any salary as governor.  He has honored that promise and has not taken one penny of the salary that he is entitled to since he became governor. 

You’re barking up the wrong tree.

As someone who has shown himself to be environmentally conscious, in favor of expanding healthcare and other positions that have endeared him to democrats like Al Gore and others, you are wrong to think the problem can be solved simply by taking money from the rich.  As someone who comes from Europe and grew up in a socialist country (Austria was socialist in the 50’s and 60’s), Arnold probably thinks the disparities in income between the rich and the poor is too wide in this country.  But, that is not the immediate problem that California has.

The problem is the unions of the nurses, teachers and others have so much power, nothing gets done without their approval.  And they don’t give a damn about anyone else (including the poor).  They just want what they think they are entitled to.

Just like the exorbitant salaries of the auto workers have bankrupted America’s biggest companies (GM, Ford and Chrysler), the exorbitant salaries of certain union workers in California have bankrupted the biggest state in the country.  The teachers are an exception.  I don’t believe they receive exorbitant salaries, but their power is such that no poor teacher can be fired and so our substandard schools can not be improved.

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By Jean Gerard, May 24, 2009 at 3:52 pm Link to this comment
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What a refresshing innovation it would be for once, to hear the Governor say:  “In the present circumstances, it seems to me that it would be wiser and fairer to take from the rich and give to the poor.  Accordingly, I am asking the Legislature to set up a nonpartisan financial account in the budget called “Qualmless Alms” to which anyone is entitled to contribute, but to which I will begin my giving 1/2 of my salary for the rest of my term in office as a gift exclusively to the health and welfare needs of the poorest of our California residents, no strings attached. By doing this I am hoping to set a precedent that will enoourage others in the State, particularly those with the most resources, to give generously, for one year,and promote the interests of all.  I will ask the Legislature to join me, as well as the association of guards of California prisons, wealthy churches, labor unions, Walmart stores and other businesses such as oil, defense, and the film industry that have profited extensively from doing business here for the past fifty years. No contribution is too small, but in this instance I will particularly encourage provide62 large gifts, in view of California’s desperate needs. Details soon.  Stay tuned.  Sincerely yours, (signed)

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By ThomasG, May 24, 2009 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment

Subjectified Law and Order

Subjectified law and order is the law and order of CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST REPUBLICANS and their Democratic Leadership Council’s(DLC) minions of the Professional Middle Class singularity, that is influenced by political special interest and personal prejudice taking place within the minds and emotions of those that are of the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN and Professional Middle Class singularity, who advocate, make, and benefit from subjectified law and order that is imposed upon the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION as a class and culture and who have had no part in promulgating the subjectified law and order, do not benefit from the subjectified law and order that is imposed upon them and are, in fact, class and culturally subjugated, oppressed and tyrannized by subjectified law and order that is imposed upon them by the American aristocracy and Professional Middle Class singularity, as the dominant classes and cultures in the United States.

Subjectified law and order was used by the British against the American colonists, by the American colonists against the Native people of North America and subjectified law and order is now being used by the ruling classes and cultures of the 30% combined minorities of the American aristocracy and the Professional Middle Class singularity against the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION as a class and culture.

We all know what the result was of subjectified law and order by the British against the American colonists and the Native Nations of the North American continent by American colonists and their descendants.

The result of subjectified law and order was subjugation, oppression and tyranny in the case of the British against the American colonists that resulted in revolution and subjugation, oppression and tyranny by the American colonists and their descendants against the peoples of the Native Nations of North America that led to genocide and internment in concentration camps that exist to the present day.

The result of class and culturally subjectified law and order imposed by the classes and cultures of the 30% combined minorities of the American aristocracy and the Professional Middle Class singularity against the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION of the United States will be no different than it was in the case of the British and the American colonists, or the American colonists and their descendants against the peoples of the Native Nations of the North American continent; the result will be eventual revolution or continuing subjugation, oppression and tyranny that will lead to genocide and internment of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION as a class and culture.

At the present time, class and culturally subjectified law and order by the classes and cultures of the American aristocracy and Professional Middle Class singularity has in our nation, the United States, with a population of three hundred million, imprisoned more of the common population than China, a nation with a population of one billion more population than the United States.

It is time for a change; it is time for a multi-party political system to be institutionalized in the United States, so that the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULAITON can have a political party and represent themselves in the government of the United States.

It would be a tragedy for the United States as a nation to put off this much needed reform in our political system and allow the subjugation, oppression, tyranny, imprisonment, genocide and internment that history has shown will eventually result.

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By Folktruther, May 24, 2009 at 12:32 pm Link to this comment

Swatzneigger isn’t fascist, Virgina, but you are right, you can’t blame Calif on the Zionists.  TD truthers have tended to argue that I have over emphasized the power of Zionism, and they are probably right too.  Neoliberalism may be a greater and more pernicious force.

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By samosamo, May 24, 2009 at 11:39 am Link to this comment

By Virginia777, May 24 at 1:11 pm
““You can’t blame the Israel lobby on this one..”“

I don’t know about that since we have to get izraeli approval to go to the bathroom and pay them another $15,000,000,000.00.

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By Virginia777, May 24, 2009 at 10:11 am Link to this comment

I have now had my kid’s health insurance threatened,  their CalGrants threatened, their schools assaulted by severe cuts,

am I surprised by any of this?

NO, I am not!! All of this has been partnered with by California’s corrupt media which declared war on public education for a long time now, and has been hammering away at it, to the point of supporting right-wing extremists who attack schools.

Another partner is California’s anti-tax voters who are so stupid they voted down money for more fire stations after a year of devastating fires (only to get fiercer ones the next year).

The fact that our Governor is and has been a Fascist seems to have hardly alarmed California’s vastly overestimated “Left”, who have mostly sat back on their meditation cushions and let it all happen.

You can’t blame the Israel lobby on this one, this mess is ALL the doing of the extreme Right who have bullied their way into Power here in California, and wrecked our State in the process.

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By yours truly, May 24, 2009 at 12:15 am Link to this comment
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And just think, the budget crisis could be solved in an instant if only President Obama would announce that he’s going to ask al Qaeda and the Taliban to send representatives to an international peace conference on how to end all the bloodshed.  What’s more, everything’s to be up for consideration (no backroom deals allowed), including, but not limited to a proposal that calls for the withdrawal of all foreign troops from the lands that they now are occupying; this, in exchange for the laying down of arms by today’s insurgencies against oppression.  How would agreement on this proposal solve the budget crisis?  Peace begets demilitarization, and then before long, well wadayaknow, it’s swords into plowshares time, that’s how.

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By Outraged, May 23, 2009 at 9:15 pm Link to this comment

Thank you, Folktruther.

Your comment:

“You are quite wrong, Jackpine, to blame the American people for their historical oppression by the American ruling class. Any people can be deluded, exploited and brutalized if the entire truth system is controlled by a power structure in the pay of, or identifying with, oppressive power.  American power identifies with neoliberalism, and neoliberals do not want to waste their money paying taxes.”

The “blame the victim” mentality is also ENDORSED by this very same group, the neocons.  THIS HAS TO STOP.  As THE PEOPLE, everyone NEEDS to recognize that we’ve ALL been fed (to quote, George Galloway) “a pack of LIES”.

(This is an “old” video, the current damage is much worse, much too much worse…..)

Again, there are many things you CAN DO, “on the homefront”, talk to people, tell them what you know, don’t be AFRAID of those with differing perspectives, TALK to them, LISTEN to them….

And JOIN, or at least sign up for the newsletter (hear ‘em out), DECIDE FOR YOURSELF….. ENDORSE “Waging Peace”.

Again, Dwight D. Eisenhower:

“I think that people want peace so much that one of these days government had better get out of their way and let them have it.”

“I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.”

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By Folktruther, May 23, 2009 at 10:22 am Link to this comment

You are quite wrong, Jackpine, to blame the American people for their historical oppression by the American ruling class. Any people can be deluded, exploited and brutalized if the entire truth system is controlled by a power structure in the pay of, or identifying with, oppressive power.  American power identifies with neoliberalism, and neoliberals do not want to waste their money paying taxes.

Indeed, Ayn Rand, who founded what turned out to be a Jewish cult, argued that taxes are a forn of horrifying opprression and should be voluntary.  She was strongly in favor of imprisonment for purposes of making people suffer intensely for their crimes, being against rehabilitation, but found taxes horrifying.  And one of her acolytes, Allen Greenspan, was made head of the Fed for years, leading to our current neoliberal financial debacle.

And the American people have been systematically deluded by neoliberal economists, like Milton Freedman, and economic statistics which are largely fabrications.  The learned and mass media and other truth organs side with delusive economic power over the simple reatily-based truth that is excluded from the mainstream truth.

neoliberal exploitation, endless war, a delusive truth system, and a postmodeern police state, is being imposed by bushobama policies.  the American people are the victims of these policies, systematiclly deluded and depowered to prevent effective resistence.  until the American people can set up a people’s truth system which can effecively resist American power delusion, the American people will be separated, isolated and alienated from each other, allowing the rich to divide and conquer, and contnue to be pounded into the ground.

both the American truth organs and the political parties are being sponsored and subsidized by the rich and powerful, but it is the truth organs that are most important.  It is necessary to restore to the American people a distrust of their religious, political and scientific leaders, who are in the pay of, or identify with the US powerstate, against the
American people.  Which is why the gneeral person is being taxed a greater percentage of their income than the rich. To impoverish the American people to make their easier to oppress.

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By everynobody, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 am Link to this comment
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As another poster here notes; you’re watching empire crumble before your eyes. Pay attention; if you survive it you may learn something. Americans are getting to harvest the crops they’ve planted (reaping that which you’ve sown). And a bitter crop indeed; from surfs you’ve come and to surfs you’ll return. The inevitability of this is certain now, because you are cowards and a coward’s life you will live; surfdome will be your legacy.

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By jackpine savage, May 23, 2009 at 5:15 am Link to this comment

Whatever America was, it crumbles a little bit more every day.

This is how empires die, and while it’s a damned shame to watch regular people get caught in the gears it couldn’t happen to a more deserving group of people (Americans in general).

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By diamond, May 23, 2009 at 1:05 am Link to this comment

It’s that great contradiction of American life. The poor pay their taxes - they have no choice. The rich have a choice and they choose not to pay. All those Hollywood millionaires don’t want to pay their taxes either. How these people think a state can be run if no one pays their taxes is beyond me. Blaming Arnie is just crazy. He wants to act for the common good but even someone who wants to do that can do nothing if everyone refuses to pay taxes to give him the money to do it. Read my lips - pay your taxes and stop electing people who promise only to cut your taxes but not to behave in a decent and principled way when in office. You get the government you deserve.

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By whyzowl1, May 23, 2009 at 12:19 am Link to this comment

The economic collapse caused by the failure of the elite’s latest scheme for further enriching themselves at everyone else’s expense, will now be used by them as a pretext for intensifying their class war against the poor and workers.

“It’s class warfare, and my class is winning.”
          Warren Buffet

The dimwitted and cowardly American people will continue to sit at their masters’ heels and lick their hands.

“Oppression that is clearly inexorable and invincible does not give rise to revolt but to submission.”
                      Simone Weil

Americans make the best slaves.

P.S. for JR
“Foreign Aid” is a myth. It is merely a form of subsidization for US corporations. It may be in the form of military equipment or assistance of various kinds, or “development projects,” but in either case the money never leaves the United States. The loot may be transferred from a bank in New York to one in California used by Bechtel or Lockheed Martin, for example, but that’s usually about as far as it gets. Of course the leader of the country in question gets his payoff, and his brother or uncle or favored crony will get the contract to provide the cement for the construction, and etc., etc., etc.

Running an empire is very expensive, and you should be outraged that you pay all the costs while a certain select few others get all the benefits. Don’t start the revolution without me.

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By Peter, May 22, 2009 at 10:55 pm Link to this comment
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From the LA Times: “The public is under the delusion that they can have everything—potholes filled, new freeways, a good education system—but they aren’t willing to pay for it ... A lot of critical services are going to be cut and there will be serious consequences,” said Jim Hawley of the Elfenworks Center for the Study of Fiduciary Capitalism at St. Mary’s College of California.  This sums up the problem.

Schwarzenegger has been trying to fix the broken state of California since he took office.  This is the second time the people have rejected his proposals.  In his first attempt a few years ago, Californian’s would not even pass his plan to establish fair election districts in the state to eliminate gerrymandering and allow competitive elections.  Its not surprising he can’t get anything passed, with the enormous power of the teachers, nurses and other unions and the support of the democratic legislature.  The press has not done its job in pointing out the importance of passing these measures.

California was in huge debt when Schwarzenegger took office and he has been opposed at every turn in his attempts to bring fiscal discipline to the state.  Now the they say we will be taking from the poor.  You can blame the greedy unions that never give an inch, our democratic legislature and the rule that you need a 2/3 majority to get legislation passed for this. 

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.  I’m afraid its not just California though.  Our Federal Budget is also out of control and some economists believe its status endangers the American economy and our standard of living.  In Europe (where Schwarzenegger is from) people know the value of sacrifice for the common good - millions of workers are put on reduced working ours but they know this is necessary so that their company survives.  Try to do that in the USA where everyone is only concerned about themselves - to hell with everyone else.

Schwarzenneger has done an excellent job, but little has been accomplished because of greed of others and now the poor will pay because of their greed.  I pity the next governor who will have to deal with the same greedy and selfish crybabies that will still have sway over the budget.

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By Shift, May 22, 2009 at 7:48 pm Link to this comment

The Terminator terminating the poor.  The goon shows his real colors.

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By Outraged, May 22, 2009 at 7:29 pm Link to this comment

Should we “blame” Arnold though…. he simply hasn’t evolved past the vole stage apparently.  And really… look at his head.  It’s not mean to be scientific (c’mon) it looks decidedly unevolved for this day and age. 

Gene tests revealed those who had certain variants of a gene called AVPR1a were on average nearly 50% more likely to give money away…..”

....The researchers point out that a version of AVPR1a also exists in voles, where it also promotes social bonding.

This, they say, suggests that altruism has a long rooted genetic history.

Dr George Fieldman, a lecturer in psychology at Buckinghamshire New University, said carrying genes which promoted altruism and social bonding made evolutionary sense.”

Yet it seems poor people have a great deal of this gene (one would at least imagine) since according to this article @ Truthout:

“The generosity of poor people isn’t so much rare as rarely noticed, however. In fact, America’s poor donate more, in percentage terms, than higher-income groups do, surveys of charitable giving show. What’s more, their generosity declines less in hard times than the generosity of richer givers does.

  “The lowest-income fifth (of the population) always give at more than their capacity,” said Virginia Hodgkinson, former vice president for research at Independent Sector, a Washington-based association of major nonprofit agencies. “The next two-fifths give at capacity, and those above that are capable of giving two or three times more than they give.”

  Indeed, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics’ latest survey of consumer expenditure found that the poorest fifth of America’s households contributed an average of 4.3 percent of their incomes to charitable organizations in 2007. The richest fifth gave at less than half that rate, 2.1 percent.”

So there you have it.  More often than not, rich people are rich because they’re missing some of what MAKES THEIR MARBLES “rounded out”.  Poor people’s marbles work just fine, but then this is not a surprise if one simply engages Applied Science is it….?

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By Celia, May 22, 2009 at 7:28 pm Link to this comment
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the legislature proposes spending and taxes.  it cannot ennact them without the people’s vote.  the governor proposes taxes and spending.  he cannot sign the bills into law without the people’s vote.

it’s the way the system is set up, NOT just one person’s fault!

we have to change the way budgets are ennacted in california.

besides, you can’t have something for nothing.  you want services?  you gotta pay for them somehow!

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By jr., May 22, 2009 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment

America seems to have billions and billions of dollars to give away, in a free for all, to other countries, that, if, going to be used, should be appropriated at home first.  $540 million was just given to pakastan.  Hundreds of millions are slated to be given to israel and other countries.  The american peoples are the ones paying the taxes for that money to be available, should it not be available to them first!?!

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By jjohnjj, May 22, 2009 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment
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It should be clear to all by now. Politicians who promise LESS government only deliver BAD government.

Let’s not blame the apathy of voters or a faceless “Legislature” for our problems. We shouldn’t even scapegoat the hapless Governator for this.

The blame falls squarely on the Republican Party, it’s corporate patrons and their servants in the news media.

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By Ray, May 22, 2009 at 2:48 pm Link to this comment
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The conservative talking heads are spinning the voters’ rejection of Props 1A through Prop 1E as a tax revolt. However, those propositions got many no votes because all they offered was dubious, piecemeal, and temporary “fixes” that didn’t begin to address the dysfunctionality in California’s system of raising and allocating public revenue. A comprehensive and equitable overhaul will eliminate the “two-thirds” vote requirement for passing California’s budget, and it will allow greater authority for local councils and boards to raise taxes. The voters’ response to such an overhaul remains to be tested.

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By jonr, May 22, 2009 at 1:48 pm Link to this comment
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It will be interesting to see how the (arguably) eigth largest economy in the world will deal with this crisis, as it seems the Republicans have painted themselves into a corner.

The responsible thing would be a combination of cutting programs and raising taxes.  Pork programs have already been cut, though, to levels beyond which no legislator’s corporate sponsors are willing to go.  And tax increases are out for obvious reasons… after posturing for so long on the “Even good taxes are bad and the government is your enemy,” soapbox, no Republican supporting a tax increase is likely to get re-elected.  Which may be a blessing in disguise, because the same people who keep rejecting sane people who understand economics would only find somebody else to make them false promises next time around and the trend will continue.

Which leaves those who are under-represented to shoulder the burden of the deficit.  People and organizations who can’t afford to hire lobbyists; i.e. students and the poor and, truth be told, a majority of the middle class.

Some people claim the United States has the best government money can buy, but I’d narrow it down.  The folks who successfully championed nonsensically requiring a 2/3 majority to get the job done bought themselves some real power.  Now that they have it, they’re not likely to let go easily.

There are three ways out of this:
(1) Be responsible and levy taxes now and pay what it takes,
(2) Borrow the money now and levy taxes later to pay back the loans plus interest (already been done to some extent), or
(3) Make somebody else do without.

The thing is that, there just isn’t enough pork IN programs that benefit the poor and under-represented to solve this particular problem.  Maybe a call to the money fairy, but Obama already said, “No.”

Republicans own this mess, too, but I’m betting they won’t be the ones to pay for cleaning it up.

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By Donald Lindsey, May 22, 2009 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment
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My Aunt knew as a girl what the repubs were up to, and got in trouble for saying so…She has been dead since 1995, and died at 74, so she was way ahead of her time…Imagine, a child could figure that out, way back when…

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By Ryan, May 22, 2009 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment
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How can all of you be so blind?  California has spent out of control for years without the slightest hint of how to pay for it.

This is a perfect mirror to the hundreds of thousands of Americans that refuse to practice fiscal responsibility.  If we are going to spend the money, there must be a plan in place FIRST to acquire the revenue.

The usefulness of the program, or the socioeconomic status of the people receiving the aid is irrelevant.  California implemented programs that they did not have the money for.  When the chickens come home to roost, the programs must be cut when the dollars cannot be found.

This is classic political gamesmanship.  Unfortunately for the CA Legislators, the game is up.  The voters overwhelmingly smashed this money grab.  It is high time to shrink the CA government, shrink the spending, and return the revenues back to the productive members of the state.

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By Brent, May 22, 2009 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment
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With Schwarzenegger’s tax plan voted down and Washington denying a rescue, he is just going for the easy targets since, as you can see here, the republicans don’t have many good ideas to solve the budget problem.

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By qmark, May 22, 2009 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment
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This is so traditionally Republican that it ought to have its own special name, like poor-bashing. There’s hardly a Republican out there that can’t imagine in his or her rigidly closed mind having the privilege of hacking away at the social programs structure with an axe. It’s the first place they run to when they need to co-opt some more tax giveaway money for the richest one percent. Every time I hear a Republican say something about “fixing” a program, it makes my skin crawl. Why do they hate the poor so much, so vehemently, so universally?

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By Folktruther, May 22, 2009 at 11:51 am Link to this comment

This is the future of America, increasing the already monstrous class inequality.  The rich have the power, a variety of trditional tactics prevent the poor from voting, so instead of taxing the rich, the American power system devastates the poor.  And should they object, they have police, militry, prisons, and Law and Order to enforce.

The California legislatures, not incidentially, are domniated by Dems. Der Gropenfuher is Gop.

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By samosamo, May 22, 2009 at 11:45 am Link to this comment

Now arnold gets to really BE the terminator and this will actually give him some self satisfaction, too bad he isn’t a politician or a leader, just a strung out steroid user set to save his precious buddies, the california ‘elite’.

Maybe california should really consider another recall but hey, I guess his predessesor was even worse.

I still remember his interview on some show, cbs’ 60 minutes I think, and him running around in his special humvee(bet that gave him his ego boost) and advizing everyone to get one as they are great vehicles. He may have even had a .50 caliber machine gun mounted on it.

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By NorCalNative, May 22, 2009 at 11:25 am Link to this comment
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California needs leadership, not tired old Republican cliches. My NO vote was a vote to change the 2/3 majority requirement for passing budgets.

This governor has been a disaster and I can’t wait until he’s history!

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By hippie4ever, May 22, 2009 at 11:17 am Link to this comment

ocjim, why should ordinary citizens do the work of the legislature and the governor? That’s their job, not ours, and if they can’t pass a budget it’s time to fix the system. Only AK and CA require a 2/3 majority to pass a budget—this must change because it gives the GOP minority the power to sabatoge and they’re so good at it. I reject the idea that essential public services must be slashed to balance the budget. There’s lots and lots of pork to be found within the Sacramento budget. Cut that first and see where we are.

Seems you like blaming the people for the problems created by the ruling class via the media and the consumer-engineered society. I don’t lump all of us into that bag because, ocjim, some of us read (I’m reading the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein). I never watch faux news or the other corporate shills. Sometimes I buy food or other essentials. We’re poor now, in case you haven’t noticed.

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By ocjim, May 22, 2009 at 10:18 am Link to this comment

The people least responsible for the Arnold-voter-legislature mess will suffer the consequences.

Apart from Arnold, what misanthropes in the legislature are so dense, compromised and unprincipled that they can’t act for the common good.

The Republicans in the legislature seem to get all their news and inspiration from inane right-wing talk radio. Arnold gets his from watching his past movies and all his perfect moves in them. The Democrats in the legislature just pander.

The voters just say “no,” pay their bills, watch and listen to vacant commentators on TV and buy things.

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