You should check out the similarities.  Shocking….....ok, well not shocking, more like typical.

http://www.google.com/search?q=blow+up+sears+tower
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Five_convicted_in_plot_to_blow_up_S_05122009.html
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090512/ap_on_re_us/us_terrorism_investigation
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/13/us/13miami.html

(WASHINGTON, D.C., 5/26/2009) ­ A prominent national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group today questioned the FBI’s tactics leading up to the arrest of four New York men for allegedly plotting to attack Jewish institutions in that state.
Based on early reports of a foiled plot to bomb a synagogue and a Jewish community center and to shoot down military planes, the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) initially applauded the FBI and the other law enforcement agencies that took part in the investigation.
In a statement issued today, CAIR cited newly-revealed details of the case that indicate the alleged “plot” may have been based more on the financial inducements of a government informant than on the predisposition to terrorism of three petty criminals and a mentally ill Haitian immigrant. The Associated Press described the alleged plotters as “down-and-out ex-convicts living on the margins in a faded industrial city.”
SEE: Islam Not to Blame for Bronx Terror Plot (Huffington Post)

  “This entire scheme seems to be the product of sending yet another FBI agent provocateur into an American mosque to instigate a ‘plot’ that would likely never have been hatched but for the rhetorical and financial inducements of the government informant. As a defense attorney said of the informant in this case, who was also the informant in a previous case, ‘Where he goes conspiracies blossom.’ According to the family of one of the suspects, the FBI informant even promised to pay for a liver transplant for his dying brother.
 
  “These arrests seem to be based on a government formula for announcing law enforcement ‘victories’ that we have seen all too often in the past - take a paid informant, insert him into a mosque or community without probable cause of criminal behavior, locate marginal characters open to financial or rhetorical inducements, facilitate criminal actions suggested by the provocateur, and then announce ‘terror’ arrests with great fanfare.
 
“This formula, which could be used in any faith community, produces flashy arrests but rests on shaky constitutional ground and does little to advance legitimate law enforcement goals. It also serves to alienate an entire religious minority and provides fodder for those who seek to demonize Islam and marginalize American Muslims.”

SEE: Muslim Organizations Condemn Terror Plan: Is Anyone Listening?

In an interview with the New York Post, the girlfriend of the alleged ringleader said the informant was constantly around, “It was like he was stalking him.” The girlfriend of one of the other alleged plotters said: “They aren’t radicals they were just financially motivated. They aren’t terrorists. If [the informant] wasn’t in the picture they would’ve never come up with this idea. This was not their idea. They make it sound like they sought him out and said we want to do this when he’s the one who approached them. He enticed them with money.”
The New York Times wrote: “Everyone called the stranger with all the money ‘Maqsood.’ He would sit in his Mercedes, waiting in the parking lot of the mosque in Newburgh, N.Y., until the Friday prayer was over. Then, according to members of the mosque, the Masjid al-Ikhlas, he approached the young men.”
A lawyer who represented the last terror suspect tried in New York state called the FBI’s operation “a foolish waste of time and money.” He said, “It is almost as if the FBI cooked up the plot and found four idiots to install as defendants.”
SEE: FBI ‘Lured Dimwits’ Into Terror Plot (The Times)
SEE ALSO: Yet Another Bogus ‘Terror’ Plot (The Nation)

CAIR noted that the FBI informant in a similar case in California recently stated that he views Islam as a threat to national security.
SEE: FBI Spy: “Islam Itself is a Threat to National Security”

The man who entrapped them works for the FBI? God. I’m just shocked, shocked I tell you. These theatrical events followed by show trials (there have been others, some of them notorious all over the world) are not done to protect America, they’re done so that Dick Cheney can go on TV and claim that torturing people who were innocent of any crime protected America from ‘terrorism’. The irony is that Dick Cheney is what America needs protecting from. The FBI and the CIA is what America needs protecting from. Ask yourselves, why was Dick Cheney given Cipro far in advance of the anthrax attacks? The 9/11 families wanted to ask him why he was given Cipro as early as the evening of 9/11, but, of course, they never got to ask those questions. Bush and Cheney would only meet the 9/11 commission in private and under strict conditions:
1. No notes would be taken, no transcript or any record whatsoever made of their testimony.
2. They would not be under oath.
3. They would only appear together. Imagine what mistakes Bush could have made without Cheney there to keep him in check.

Do they seem like innocent men with nothing to hide to you?

And is the Dick psychic or (as I suspect) just psychotic?

From the link supplied by Abu Mubarak

They aren’t radicals they were just financially motivated. They aren’t terrorists. If Maqsood wasn’t in the picture they would’ve never come up with this idea,” she said. “This was not their idea. They make it sound like they sought him out and said we want to do this when he’s the one who approached them. He enticed them with money.

“Maqsood wasn’t even allowed inside the mosque, he waited in the parking lot for them and offered them $25,000 to join.”

Sources say Maqsood was really Shahed Hussain—a Pakistani native who runs hotels upstate and has worked for the FBI since 2003 after getting into trouble in a fraud case. He played an integral role in unraveling another terror-related case in Albany in 2004.

Though girlfriends will always support their man, this story tends to show people at what lengths the government will go to entrap people.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232009/news/regionalnews/jihad_girlfriend__they_were_tricked_by_g_170683.htm

Whatever happened to that motley crew in Florida that was going to blow up the Sears Tower?

Inherit The Wind, May 25 at 10:22 am #

Politics makes for exasperating conversations dontcha know. It aint for the faint of heart. I have a difficult time on occasion reining in my desire to tell some jackass that he/she is such, but what would that accomplish other than a temporary alleviation of frustration?

I try to honestly give a studied opinion on topics, I try to give full weight to the opinions others express too, if I can stand them or understand them.

What is the alternative, become a crotchety, curmudgeonly and bitter type? I myself am going for the Mencken touch. Its a real pity that everyone isn’t as smart as we are….errrr.

ardee, May 25 at 9:07 am #

Politics is such a messy business…..

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It never fails to amaze me. I defy ANYONE to find where I challenged ANYTHING Richard Clarke brought forth.  I happen to think the guy is a real hero and Obama should have invited him back into the WH.

Yet it must be SO much fun to make up shit about me that can’t possibly be true, and then post it.  If I DON’T challenge it, it’s accepted as implicitly true. If I do, then I’m “whining and complaining”.

Great classic Re-Thug-lican tactic to avoid REAL debate.

Inherit The Wind, May 24 at 11:17 pm #

“Nobody ever said anything like.  Why do people just make up shit about me?”
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Why indeed? Perhaps it is your origins on the planet Tralfamador?

Perhaps it is more likely a fault of we humans to defame any person who is not in total agreement with our own unique perspective?

Politics is such a messy business…..

I suggest you google ‘Moscow apartment bombings’ if you want an insight into how these things work. It might be some comfort to you to know you’re not the only nation held to ransom by its own government so they could have a war.

diamond, May 24 at 6:45 pm #

Inherit the wind if you can call Richard Clarke’s testimony to the 9/11 Commission a dog scratching its butt then you’re in a dreamworld.
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Nobody ever said anything like.  Why do people just make up shit about me?

nefesh, May 24 at 9:07 pm #

While you spin off into Truthdig Conspiracy Fantasy Land, here are the facts (again):

“They were seized after planting what they believed to be [37-pound C4] bombs in cars outside the Riverdale Temple, a Reform synagogue, and the nearby Riverdale Jewish Center, an Orthodox synagogue, [New York City Police Commissioner Raymond] Kelly said.”
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Yes they were indeed, bombs they obtained from a govt supplier, bombs they quite possibly were encouraged to plant by a govt informer. Do you know more than the papers report?

Had these Islamist would-be mass-murderers gotten activated 37-pound bombs from another source (and they were trying) there would be yet another massacre of innocent Jews (funny, that - Jews targets of Muslims? Who woulda thunk?)
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Where do you get your information? What source do you cite to suggest that these clowns were trying to obtain anything from anybody? The reports indicate only that an informant listened to their desires to commit acts of violence and agreed to obtain the bombs for them. Could you obtain C-4? Or a surface to air missile? Not very likely I suspect, nor ,it is logical to believe, could these ex cons.

One is free to conjecture all one wishes, throw possible scenarios around all one likes, but one is also free to hold opposing views, views based upon the history of propagandising events for political purpose, the history of the manipulation of our opinions by such as this.

Certainly the timing alone, amidst a debate as to the use of torture and its necessity, and the increasing support for investigations into Bush administration practices might make one take pause rather than suspend ones brain and wave a flag instead.

By diamond, May 24 at 6:45 pm #

They use fear to control and misguide people. And you know what? It works. Fear stops you thinking. They like that.

While you spin off into Truthdig Conspiracy Fantasy Land, here are the facts (again):

“They were seized after planting what they believed to be [37-pound C4] bombs in cars outside the Riverdale Temple, a Reform synagogue, and the nearby Riverdale Jewish Center, an Orthodox synagogue, [New York City Police Commissioner Raymond] Kelly said.”

Had these Islamist would-be mass-murderers gotten activated 37-pound bombs from another source (and they were trying) there would be yet another massacre of innocent Jews (funny, that - Jews targets of Muslims? Who woulda thunk?)

Inherit the wind if you can call Richard Clarke’s testimony to the 9/11 Commission a dog scratching its butt then you’re in a dreamworld. The FBI does not deserve to be trusted, they have betrayed the American people and in fact people everywhere. And the fact that these were fake bombs would cause Hercule Poirot to wrinkle his brow and say, ‘Something is not right here.’ Blind faith in men with uniforms and flashy badges can only take you so far. At some stage you need to actually look at the facts and face the facts. It’s not pleasant, but if the fiasco of 9/11 is ever to be learned from then the facts of what happened that day have to be faced. And when they are, all these terror alerts and arrests of ‘terrorists’ take on a whole new complexion. I was reading a book the other day written by a man who worked as a spin doctor/journalist for many years and he said he could name CIA operatives working in all the TV networks and newspapers. If this is true (and it is) then when you read the paper you should keep your scepticism button switched on. On the subject of terrorism you can’t take anything on faith because it’s all spin and manipulation. Rmember the manipulation that went on when Georgia invaded South Ossetia? I watched so called journalists on TV telling me that Russia had invaded Georgia but never mentioning the CIA planned Georgian invasion of South Ossetia. Whenever I hear these media stooges saying ‘terrorist’ my bullshit detector goes off the chart. They use fear to control and misguide people. And you know what? It works. Fear stops you thinking. They like that.

Just to be clear, the informant involved in this case happens to be same informant who was involved in the pizza delivery guys attacking an Army base “homegrown” terrorist story.

Dig into that one a little ways and you find out that the informant approached the owner of the pizza place (who was deeply in debt) with a plan to get him out of debt by using the pizza joint to launder money for a Pakistani group.

Very heroic…foiling crimes that didn’t exist until you conjured them up via your “informant”.

ardee, May 24 at 8:46 am #

Half an agreement is better than no agreement at all…Thanks for the mature and in depth analysis of my position, it is appreciated and increasingly rare, unfortunately.
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Keep it a secret! I don’t want everybody to know I can do that.  They’ll start to expect it!

Inherit The Wind, May 23 at 10:16 pm #

Half an agreement is better than no agreement at all…Thanks for the mature and in depth analysis of my position, it is appreciated and increasingly rare, unfortunately.

RD:

The procedure as described appears to be a very typical one used in law enforcement, not something special or unusual, so the conspiracy/false-flag BS that flies at TD every time a dog scratches his butt has no basis as yet in anything but “It’s a conspiracy, Man!” Carlinesque paranoia.

However it IS valid to question whether these typical LE procedures are legal and Constitutional, and where they are, and where they cross over the line into entrapment.  And even if they do, in this case, STILL is not prima facie evidence of a conspiracy, merely LE incompetence, of which, as in any profession, there is an abundant minority capable of it.

One statement, though, I agree with whole-heartedly:

“I’ll bet this will result in much right wing propaganda you betcha!”

Yeah, but they’ll use ANYTHING to get a Dem president, even a haircut.

ITW:

“But you are therefore NOT arguing that this was a “false flag” op, but rather an entrapment, probably a stronger and more solid argument, I’d guess.”

Every report I have read indicates that it was not an undercover cop but an informant:

“The suspects dealt with a law-enforcement informant, who they believed was affiliated with a Pakistan-based terrorist group, Jaish-e-Mohammed, in their attempts to obtain weapons, according to the statement. “

It is my belief that the function of law enforcement is crime prevention, an endeavor that would not seem to include providing dummy bombs and a missile, and letting an informant urge on these dumb people.

I bet that this informant was paid a large sum for his actions, and Ill bet that the purpose in allowing these men to complete their “terrorist action” is a purely political one.

I would argue the distinction between a false flag vs. a case of entrapment but will only note that one can certainly follow the other, even strengthen such an attempt to mislead. These men could have been arrested at any time, presumably their conversations were taped and , being in possession of what they believed to be explosives, it might seem that a case was already pretty solid.

But allowing them to complete the placing of those “bombs” made for better TV coverage and leads to more juicy arguments from the right wing concerning who made this nation safer, Bush or our current leadership.

I would expect that anyone even remotely skeptical might note the timing of such an arrest,as the debate concerning the need for torture rages and the requests for investigations into govt complicity grows.

I’ll bet this will result in much right wing propaganda you betcha!

Inherit The Wind— “If the state entrapped them, then they are by definition not guilty of the crimes into which they were entrapped.”

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That has been the main argument here. If one claims entrapment the accused are, by definition, guiltless of the crime. In other words it’s a claim of innocents.

I think it’s important to keep the context. So forgive me for repeating myself: In truth the vast majority of the men and woman in law enforcement are good people working under extremely difficult and, at times, dangerous conditions. The vast majority follow the law and would not play a part in the types of activities described in this post.

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The false flag scenarios are a waste of time.

Mitchell p I told you you were mistaken to trust the FBI on any matter to do with so called terrorism. You would also be wise not to trust the CIA or the Pentagon on any matter to do with terrorism. Or any of the usual suspects, such as Dick Cheney. They all have blood on their hands as far as I’m concerned and are now in survival mode fearing that eventually they will be held accountable for what they did. What you call a rant I call providing information, all of it verified and some of it published in the 9/11 Commission’s own report. For example the testimony of Richard Clarke should have lifted the roof off the building where hearings were held but, of course, did not. The 9/11 Commission had a strange inability to pay attention when anything came up that looked bad for the Bush administration. Things like this:
‘In retrospect, we know that there was information available to some in the FBI and CIA that al Qida (Clarke’s spelling) operatives had entered the United States. That information was not shared with the senior FBI counter-terrorism official (Dale Watson) or with me, despite the heightened state of concern in the Counter-terrorism Security Group’ (9/11 Commission Report, testimony of Richard Clarke).
Needless to say the solid citizens of the 9/11 panel did not pounce on this information or any of the other ‘red flag’ information Clarke gave them. Information that would have made any reasonable person wonder what kind of game the CIA, in particular, was playing:
‘The President (Clinton), displeased with the inability of CIA to eliminate the al Qida leadership, asked for additional options. The NSC staff proposed that the Predator, unmanned aerial vehicle, be used to find the leadership. CIA objected’ (9/11 Commission Report, testimony of Richard Clarke).

This is a continuing pattern of behaviour that went on in the months leading up to the 9/11 attacks. It’s obvious that CIA and elements of the FBI were in on it and naturally enough refused to act in a way that would jeopardize their own covert operation or that would remove the man they wanted to blame for it. There’s a big difference between what you call ‘foiling an attack’ and carrying out a piece of theatre such as the FBI has done with these people with the fake bombs. Leading up to 9/11, not only did they and the CIA do nothing, they actively intimidated and threatened anyone who tried to do anything to prevent the attack. One man was told that if he went public in any way with what he knew he would be thrown in jail for revealing classified information. John O’Neill, who died in one of the Towers on 9/11, was actually sidelined and driven out for his persistence in raising the alarm about an imminent attack. Maybe you trust these people to identify terrorists and ‘foil attacks’ but strangely enough, I don’t.

ardee, May 23 at 8:52 am #

When the govt supplies the bombs and a missile is it not a good thing to be suspicious of motive and method?
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Then their defense should be “entrapment”.  If the state entrapped them, then they are by definition not guilty of the crimes into which they were entrapped.  I can fully see how the U/C cop might be required to provide bombs, guns, drugs, etc as part of his role. 

But you are therefore NOT arguing that this was a “false flag” op, but rather an entrapment, probably a stronger and more solid argument, I’d guess.

“Ardee - you tell me that no “no one is defending these morons,” but I am reading numerous claims that they did nothing wrong and that the FBI masterminded the operation.”

nope Mitchell P, that may be what you think you read, but only as it dovetails with your own opinions about progressive beliefs or the events reported. Noone here stated that these men are innocents, dumb as a post obviously, but where do you see the comments that they are innocent of any crime? Point them out by all means please.

Inherit The Wind, May 23 at 8:12 am #

I defend nothing but the search for truth. Do you not give any pause at all to the manner in which this “terrorist plot” was nurtured and assisted by our own govt? Do you think that these men would have gotten anywhere, or done anything, if it wasnt for that infiltrator supplying them , urging them onward at every step?

Is it a coincidence that, as the adrenaline fueled fears of attack wane, as more and more are calling for an end to endless war, we find such a “homegrown” plot discovered?

When the govt supplies the bombs and a missile is it not a good thing to be suspicious of motive and method?

I must be the “hateful Zionist” because I insist that Fadel’s childish and absurd fantasies can’t be taken seriously in the face of fact.

Just the thought of some religious fanatics engaging in planning and trying to carry out a bombing makes Fadel’s head spin.  “It can’t be real. They MUST be victims of a false-flag operation!”

Yeah.  Like if there was going to be a FFO, they’d pick recent converts to Islam and one of them suffering from recent mental illness.  That’s really going to rally the troops, isn’t it?

No.

If they wanted patsies, they’d pick someone with a solid background that could be traced back to suspect organizations, a long CV of activities leading to this.

But Fadel’s brain can’t think that far ahead, can’t make those obvious connections, can’t see the obvious contradictions in his argument.

“They’re Moslems! It HAS to be a false flag op!”

Come up with evidence.  Prove it or show it to be at least circumstantially possible.

Or you could challenge me to meet on the field of battle again, as you did before! (ROFLMAO)

Fadel Abdallah,

I say this again and again because I believe it so strongly. You are quickly killing yourself with the hatred you hold. You need to put it away.

By AFriend, May 22 at 4:55 pm #

“Fadel Abdallah,

I say this again because I believe it so strongly. I wouldn’t feel right if I fail to keep trying.

You are quickly killing yourself with the hatred you hold. You need to put it away.”
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Here you go again the no-friend of the truth and the further impostor “doctor” and pretentious “healer” giving others the advice you should be giving yourself: “Doctor heal thyself!”

It’s in fact the hate deep in your heart, upon just seeing my name, and the sickness in your little brain that make you imagine hatred in inconvenient words of truth.

Again, the fact that my truths make fascist Zionists like you react in such a way make me feel that I did touch a deep nerve in your insecure psychic.

This message also applies to the other sick Zionist who reacted to my comment! Thanks to both your reactionary mentality, you both, unsolicited, made my day! So keep up the good work and may you continue to experience the nightmares you experience upon seeing my name in print!

Fadel don’t need evidence! It’s against Jews, it’s by Moslems—it MUST be a setup!  No Moslem has ever committed an atrocity since Mohammed first preached in the 600’s. 

If you ask Fadel.

So what if they’ve got these @$$holes stone cold? It HAS to be a setup…................
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Because if it’s not, and these guys really are what they are charged with, Fadel’s head may explode spontaneously from the pressure of dealing with the dichotomy of his hypocrisy forced to confront reality!

No, Mitchell P, that’s where you’re wrong. The FBI SAYS they tried to blow up two synagogues. Innocent until proven guilty - remember? We weren’t there and I can tell you, after the FBI’s disastrous Big Brother performance over the anthrax letters I don’t believe a damn word they say about anything.My real fear is that at some point the American right will decide they have to carry out a real terror attack with a real bomb so that 9/11 doesn’t look so dodgy. A CIA officer went to Bush at the Crawford ranch before 9/11 when he was on vacation and gave him a report headed ‘Bin Laden determined to strike in US’. Did Bush panic? Not on your life. He looked at this CIA man with complete disinterest and contempt and said: ‘All right you’ve covered your ass now’. There’s only two ways to read this -either Bush was retarded (I don’t believe that for one minute) or he was really telling this guy ‘Are you nuts or something? Don’t you know this is OUR attack? Are you trying to drag me into some other plan I know nothing about?’

John Ashcroft flew into a violent rage when another officer tried repeatedly to warn him they were picking up intelligence that meant some kind of attack was imminent. Ashcroft angrily told him ‘I don’t want to hear about this stuff any more’ and ended the conversation. He doesn’t want to hear about this stuff any more? This is the Attorney General, the number one law officer of the United States and he doesn’t want to hear about this stuff? The people behind all this are still there. Whoever the president is, they still run their fake attacks and their shock and awe black ops. You should be relieved the bomb was fake - this time.

Mitchell P., May 22 at 12:44 pm #
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These guys tried to BLOW UP 2 SYNAGOGUES, actually planted the bombs (disabled, thankfully) and everything, and you guys are trying to defend them?  Or call it a fraud?  Or, my personal favorite that seems to find it’s way into every comment thread possible - a Zionist plot?

Gimme a break!

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Why not give the rest of us a break and engage your brain prior to allowing your testosterone to overwhelm it. Noone is defending these morons, only truth and accuracy, things you apparently know little about.

Have you even read the chronology of events concerning this matter? Do you even care for accuracy and truthfulness or just the adrenaline rush of idiocy?

These guys, excons in fact, were talking out their asses when a govt informant began to goad them into doing more than talking. The govt supplied the weapons and the informant supplied the planning. These guys couldnt cut their way out of a brown paper bag with a sharp knife and written instructions.

Can you? Or do you enjoy being jerked around by obvious and illogical false flags?

I’m with Mitchell P on this one.

To date there has been little information released to the public. There is literally nothing that would allow one to draw any kind of conclusions at this point.

It is also all too common for the media attention to be largely incorrect in the first few days.

It’s interesting that so many here automatically assume vast government and/or law enforcement conspiracies. It certainly is a reflection of how many here think.

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In truth the vast majority of the men and woman in law enforcement are good people working under extremely difficult and, at times, dangerous conditions. The vast majority follow the law and would not play a part in the types of activities described in this post.

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Fadel Abdallah,

I say this again because I believe it so strongly. I wouldn’t feel right if I fail to keep trying.

You are quickly killing yourself with the hatred you hold. You need to put it away.

I understand you fail to see it yourself, however, if one understands what drinking a weekly cap full of Drano does to the body and mind they would, in most cases, end the practice.

I find it amazing that All of suspects are Truthdig.com commenters…

Their daily reading habits as found on their computer:

IRAN.gov -> NaziParty.org -> TruthDig.com

Your in trouble now. Better pay a penance (campaign contribution) to Der Leader fast.

What a god-damned joke.  I’m not sure which joke is worse: this “homegrown terrorist plot” or the Obamination’s recent speech.

Anyone want to bet that the informant was the one who suggested the acts of violence in the first place?

Dr. Karl’s theory on law enforcement: I get back to a simpler reality, say “Mayberry R.F.D”, and ask the question,“What would Andy do?” Investigate? or stop the crime? What if these “Desperadoes” had a backup plan? our law enforcement is out of control with the greed of power and control. Always ask is it a “Barney” investigation or an “Andy” common sense action…............

Can anyone in the mainstream media spell entrapment? And the bomb was fake? Gee, how surprising. These poor bastards will now be locked up forever to keep America safe while the people who sent the anthrax letters remain at large and capable of striking again.  They’re (a) white and (b) rich and (c) in politics. You’ll never guess who they are but here’s a clue. One of them is named Dick.

A jewish synagogue, no make that 2 synagogues and a few ‘homegrown’ terrorists, in a governmental(which one I am wondering(ours or izrael’s)infiltrated sting operation; give enough time to place these devices and then swoop in for the grande finale, viola’, now the stage is set.

Besides the probability of this smelling of a izraeli cesspool operation of sorts, it really smacks of a way to start classifying americans as homegrown terrorists when a case arises which makes that classification convenient and something I have been looking out for with the ‘elite’s’ paranoia starting to come up with last desparate measures for last desparate actions to ensure the people who descent will be ‘legally’ detained and refused habeas corpus.

I hope I am wrong but if this grows into something as traitorous as obama’s ‘picking up where w & dick left off’, then the potentials are huge and dangerous for the people of a lost nation.

I am relieved to note the comments categorically exposing this fraud. Lets see now, the govt gave inoperable bombs and unusable surface to air missiles to these clowns, encouraged them to act out their fantasies where they would have had no way to obtain either item without some clown getting premium pay as an informant giving them the stuff.

I guess now we waterboard them until they confess to killing Jesus.

“Sting operation” says it all, as NYCartist says below. There is no doubt in my mind that this is a false flag operation with triple purpose:
1. To keep people frightened as they are reminded that so-called “war on terror” is a real threat, and even if outside terrorist operation are non-existent, the enemies (in this case Islamic ideology)is the main problem which will always produce domestic terrorists!

2. The operation is intended for propaganda in self-congratulation, to demonstrate the efficiency of the Zionist Jewish mayor and his police force. The fact that the supposedly terrorists suspects’ targets were Synagogues is highly indicative of this false flag operation.

3. The fact that the suspects are portrayed as American newly converts to Islam is also highly indicative of another purpose for staging this false operation. In their eternal hate against Islam, the Zionists stand to gain sympathy to their causes as they are seen in the public eyes as true patriots, defending the homeland from terrorist Muslims bound on destroying America; as if America has not already been destroyed and occupied by Zionists and Zionists sympathizers who serve in the highest positions in the political-military America!

Key words: “sting operation”.  What does it say about the FBI that it recruits people into fake plots and sells them fake bombs?  How many people have been “stung” and convicted?  What has happened to the concept of “entrapment”?