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Posted on May 14, 2009
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The CIA has denied the lovable Dick Cheney’s request to release memos that, in the ex-veep’s eyes, would prove the effectiveness of torture administered under Bush’s reign. “I’m convinced, absolutely convinced, that we saved thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of lives,” he said last week. The documents in question will not be declassified, as they are the subject of pending litigation.

USA Today:

Cheney spokeswoman Lucy Tutwiler just sent us a response: “Vice President Cheney is preparing his appeal to the decision.”

It’s unlikely this matter will dissuade Cheney from criticizing Obama for eliminating the program that he said amounted to torture, though some Republicans are worried about the suddenly high profile of the less-than-popular ex-veep.

Cheney has also said he is seeking the documents to help with his memoirs.

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By Ed Harges, May 15, 2009 at 11:43 am Link to this comment

The CIA is only pretending to withhold “proof” which Cheney knows to be non-existent.

This is very helpful both to Cheney and to the CIA, or course.

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By blogdog, May 15, 2009 at 11:11 am Link to this comment

I think the analysis of torture here is not exactly right - to implement torture sadists must be employed - no sane person has the stomach for it - but, the purpose is not to break a prisoner and especially in the Global War Of Terror, not to get information - those directing the Global War OF Terror already know everything about the black-ops being staged, the moles protecting the black-ops and the patsies who’ll take the fall - they may use it to get an innocent patsy to confess, but that’s more easily done by threatening his family.

No, the torture is obviously intended to terrorize everyone (anyone could be next), even the dedicated unwitting within the ranks who may begin to doubt the mission - day by day, more and more - moreover, a soldier with his humanity intact, who gets sucked into a torture ring, is less likely to blow the whistle on it.

And as for Al Queda, the legend lives on (even proliferated in Truthdig), so I’ll continue to remind folks at Truthdig (no, no article yet from Truthdig on this) that last Sunday on Meet the Press, a smoking gun emerged…actually shocking that it wasn’t edited out - perhaps some of the agencies black-ops are being prepared for sacrifice.

Here it is - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30658135/page/2/

MR. GREGORY: Where is Osama bin Laden?

MR. ZARDARI: You all have been there for eight years, you tell me.  You lost him in Tora Bora, I didn’t.  I was in prison.  In fact, my wife warned America about Osama bin Laden in ‘89.  She rung up senior Bush and asked, asked of him, “Are you destabilizing my government?” Because he paid the then opposition $10 million to do—overthrow the first woman elected in Islamic country. So we knew that he was your operator.  And…

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By melpol, May 15, 2009 at 10:20 am Link to this comment

Recent headlines are full of stories about torture. Writers seem to be surprised that torture was being used on detainees suspected of being involved in terrorist activity. This is nothing new. Torture has been going on since recorded history. Spartacus, Jesus, and millions of others rebels were tortured. It was done as punishment to break their wills before murdering them. This practiced should be stopped. Nobody but Sadistic monsters benefit from it.
Some are saying that that the recent torture of detainees was used to gather information that was useful in protecting the nation. But there has been no proof that a single bit of that information was useful. There have been other reasons for torturing hundreds of detainees. New evidence is surfacing that false confessions were used to give a valid reason for the invasion of Iraq. There is a wide spread investigation now going on to get at the truth. It is feared that the answer will be that it was done for the joy of the Sadists in power. This should come as no surprise. Sadism is the norm in most areas of life and it is found most often in wartime. Many join the military for the opportunity to express themselves

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By hidflect, May 15, 2009 at 8:22 am Link to this comment
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@LeftTexas:

Great video!

Try this link for a whole lot more…

http://www.documentarywire.com/category/video

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By melpol, May 15, 2009 at 7:19 am Link to this comment

The Sadist is feared most by prisoners because he wants more than information or a confession. He wants to torture his victims until there is no resistance or cries of pain. This might take many months. But once his victims becomes silent and do not scream in agony the Sadist loses interest. The prisoners becomes useless and the monster looks for healthy replacements. Those that were water boarded over one hundred times until silenced were the healthiest of the victims. It took many months to obtain their silence. They were broken, rehabilitated, and could go free.

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By Alaric411, May 15, 2009 at 6:42 am Link to this comment
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The irony is delicious.  Mr. Cheney, one of the principal Bush “executive privilege” secrecy-mongers, now complains about the lack of openness of the government. What gall.

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By LeftTexas, May 15, 2009 at 3:35 am Link to this comment

I ran across these yesterday and they are a MUST SEE for everyone.

Both of these videos relate to this subject and contain information YOU WILL WANT TO KNOW!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3776750618788792499&ei=OW4MSvaEHYX8qAPmx-2oBg&q=The+New+American+Century+.mpg&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4617650616903609314

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By blogdog, May 14, 2009 at 7:28 pm Link to this comment

The most obvious conclusion from what is known, is that the only aversion of a WMD tragedy, involving Cheny in the last 8 years, was the Barksdale AFB Mutiny that alerted security and got safely unloaded at least 5 of the 6 Minot Nukes, before they could take off for the Middle East. Most likely scenario: a Cheny faction black-op, probably, though not certain to have been, targeting Iran - after the mutiny six officers (all in some way connected to the nukes) mysteriously died - details here:

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/103107Lindorff.shtml

As for the missing nuke, if, forbid,  there ever is a nuclear “terrorist” attack in the US, or anywhere, don’t look to the myth-drenched caves of the Hindu Kush, look to Darth Cheny’s Cavern of Doom.

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By Potent_Placebo, May 14, 2009 at 6:14 pm Link to this comment
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Cheney knew all along that the memos were tied up in the justice system.  He’s just killing time til the big fix gets put in or the deal is cut with Justice Dept.  This is grand political show from one who has played in a sandbox or two in the last 40 years. 

Dagger Drivin’ Dick just keeps on bleeding the ‘Pubs don’t he?

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By GB, May 14, 2009 at 5:36 pm Link to this comment
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cheney committed treason. If pelosi doesn’t prosecute bush, cheney, and the rest of their crime syndicate, she is committing treason.
Obama needs to get on board with the justice that’s needed here or his presidency will turn to garbage pretty quickly.

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By PatrickHenry, May 14, 2009 at 4:30 pm Link to this comment

I would be willing to bet my last dollar this guy was behind 9/11 (with others) which precipatated Iraq, Afghanistan and the financial mess we are now in. 

In law the concept is known as “the fruit of the poisonious tree” 

In reality it is the bad karma our elected officials generated comming back to bite us on the ass.

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By freedom loving american, May 14, 2009 at 1:20 pm Link to this comment

I’m convinced truly convinced his company stole hundreds of billions if not trillions of US taxpayers money, he stole our future and our children’s future.  Next to bush he is the most despicable person ever in a leadership role in our great nation’s history.  He and his group of thugs have so thoroughly plundered this nations wealth, pride, and honor that we may never recover. Future generations will look back and remember the bush cabal and how they almost single handily destroyed the greatest nation on earth.   

And we must all remember the role the republican owned controlled and sponsored propaganda arm aka. the MSM played in our countries demise.

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By knute, May 14, 2009 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment
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Send the asshole to prison…He’ll have plenty of time for his memoirs….maybe some bubba can give him some comforting help while he’s there…

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