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Posted on Apr 28, 2009
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President Obama and newly elected Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will have their first meeting in a few weeks, a test of the special relationship between two countries that are now led by men with very different ideas about how to pursue peace in the Middle East.

The BBC points out that although public conflict is unlikely, it remains unclear how Obama, Netanyahu and Israel’s nationalist foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman—who once called for his Arab colleagues in the Knesset to be executed—will find a way to work together.

BBC:

Mr Lieberman has promised “new approaches, new ideas, new visions”.

It is questionable whether that will be good enough for Barack Obama.

Since taking office, he and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, have gone out of their way to insist a two state solution is the only solution to the decades old Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

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By radson, April 29, 2009 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment

One State ,two States, but more than likely a State of confusion.The Israeli Govt. has been engaged in dialogue with the USA for decades now and nothing has come to

fruition regarding a peaceful settlement.During or following each war between Israel and the other belligerents,it seems to always come down to some falsehood

or other. Whether it’s the Palestinian’s fault or it’s Lebanon’s fault or Syria ,Hezbollah ,Hamas; you get the picture. This time around it will be Iran’s fault.PM Netanyahu will

meet President Obama and they will exchange niceties between themselves and perhaps a few Jewish treats and afterwards the discussion will begin.Trying to decipher

what will be on the agenda ,is anyone’s guess.Perhaps Moldova would be a good start ,since Avigdor Lieberman originated from there and Progress doesn’t seem to be

moving fast enough,another Color might have to be found. Germany could possibly be an interesting topic,since it is not just the Russians that are gazing westward ,but

the Germans are doing likewise eastwards.Both countries have been known to cooperate between themselves in order to gain strength or unshackle restraints.Poland geographically

wedged between the two is a convenient obstacle,so to speak.Georgia on my mind,did not turn out quite as planned,but neither did the ‘G’ word while President Obama was in

Turkey.Will the Armenians sway towards the Russians or towards Turkey ,since President Sarkozy responded with a categorical ‘no’ to President Obama’s proposal to incorporate

the Turks in the EU. Afterwards the ‘STANS’ of central Asia come into the discussion along with the Chinese ,in order to figure out which way the Caspian oil is going to flow,will

it be westwards or eastwards ‘actually south would be the most economically viable way’ but that’s out of the question.Following another cup of tea and some delicious Jewish

pastry the Arab States ,actually the ‘moderate Arab States’ along with their serious concerns ,with reference to Iran will be analyzed.Finally the Iranian nuclear threat will be

discussed in depth because of the ‘thorn ’ it poses in Israel’s side.In the end Iran might prove to be Israel’s Achilles heel and lead to another failed peace initiative,but remember

it’s all Irans Fault.

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By samosamo, April 29, 2009 at 2:43 pm Link to this comment

I thought obama had already assured izrael of our total support, come what may, when he was guaranteed the democrat nomination for president and the election. So, this must be some kind of play acting when it happens in a few weeks.

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By Folktruther, April 29, 2009 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment

The persocution of professor Ribinson by the U of Santa Barbara, posted by Robert, doesn’t surpise me.  My daughter was accepted to Santa Barbara and my family went to the orientation to see what it was like.  It was extremely right wing, although tecnically proficient public relations-wise, but with a barely concealed contempt for both students and parents.  Apparently for faculty as well, it turns out.

While we were there a great welcome to the Dali Llama was in preparation, he and his enterage being supported and subsidized by the CIA since the early 1950’s.  He is supported by naive religious people who don’t understand his military position of separating Tibet from China.  The cultural aspect of religous Tibet, a legitimate interest in the West, was exhibited in the school museum.  It was closed while parants were on campus.

The universities are increasingly putting pressure on their faculty to suppport US and Israel barbaric foreign policy. Inclduing the U of california.  It was its best law school, Boalt, in Berkeley, that hired Yoo after he wrote his torture memos. 

The firing of Finklestein has been fllowed up by many other firings, instigated by the Zionist Hooriwitz who gets students to inform on their teachers.  The new McCarthyism has been increasing as Israeli policy becomes more barbaric.

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By Robert, April 29, 2009 at 10:39 am Link to this comment

April 29, 2009


An Interview with William Robinson

Zionist Lobby Targets Another Tenured Professor

By DOUG HENWOOD

“Doug Henwood: We’re now joined by William Robinson, who is a Professor of Sociology at the University of California in Santa Barbara, someone I met about six or seven years ago at a conference and, although I’ve disagreed with him on some issues, I though he’s a serious and thoughtful guy. I was very distressed to learn, reading Insider Higher Ed, the website, today that he’s being persecuted by the Zionist lobby for an e-mail that he sent around to some of his students. Welcome William Robinson, tell us the story of what you sent and what’s been happening.

William Robinson: Yes, good afternoon to everyone. I included some material which was highly critical of the Israeli invasion of Gaza as part of the reading material for a course on globalization and global affairs, and this was in January. And I am now facing charges, here at the university, of anti-semitism and violating the faculty code of conduct because two students in the course - there were eighty students - these two submitted a formal letter of complaint that they found offensive the material condemning the invasion of Gaza. The students immediately withdrew from the course, I don’t even know them personally. And what is particularly egregious about this case is not that the students submitted a complaint - any student is allowed to do that - but rather that the university took the complaint seriously and is actually prosecuting me…

DH: You have tenure right?

WR: Yes, I am tenured, I am a full time professor…

DH: So in theory you’re protected against persecution for your beliefs.

WR: No, in theory, I have total, I and even if I don’t have tenure, have academic freedom, and this is in total violation of my academic freedom and of all of the principles of academic freedom, and of the university’s own charter on academic freedom, and the American Association of University Professors principles and procedures on academic freedom, so there is absolutely no basis for any of this. What’s going on, and I want to explain, behind the scenes we have been able to find out - students on campus and faculty have formed a Committee to Defend Academic Freedom which is taking up this issue, and by the way, there is a blog that they put up with all of this information, which at some point I would like to give your listeners - but we have found out that the Anti-Defamation League, which, as you know, and your listeners probably know, is an organization which, at one time, did very good and very important work in denouncing anti-Semitism, but since then has become a, basically, a mouthpiece for the Israeli government, a defender of the policies and practices of the Israeli state, and goes after and attacks anyone that criticizes those policies. So these students did not even accuse me of doing anything which we would consider anti-Semitism - discrimination against Jews, against the Jewish religion and so forth - they said openly and outright that the professor introduces material which criticized the state of Israel and that equals anti-semitism.”

Click on link for the rest of interview:

http://www.counterpunch.org/henwood04292009.html

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By Folktruther, April 29, 2009 at 10:35 am Link to this comment

Truthdig, like all the American zionist media, maintains here that Natanyahu wants peace, as of course it mainstains so does Obama. This deceit will become more obvious to the American people as the Bush-Obama policy supporting Israeli ethnic cleansing continues.  US policy has been hijacked by Zionists, and if it is not defeated by the left, it will be defeated by the right, with all that entails.

The Obama cheerleaders can dance around the problem for the time being, but historically as Israel and Zionism become increasingly isolated by the revulsion of the world, and the American and Israeli people, they will have less and less political ground to stand on.

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By Purple Girl, April 29, 2009 at 6:09 am Link to this comment

Finally starting to heed the lessons of our past screw ups?
What was our ‘reward’ for supporting Saddam’s iraq against Iran- an even more tyrannical dictator.
What was our ‘reward’ for providing weapons and funds to a group of Rag tag ‘Afghani freedom Fighters’ battling the USSR- 9/11.
and those are only the most recent examples of how our choosing sides have come back to bite US in the ass.
we have emboldened Isreal with the decades of unwarranted support we have provided.They now not only think they can talk shit tothe rest of the ME, but also to US.While we are trying to calm the violence in Two wars- they decide it’s time to start shooting fish in a barrel in Gaza. thanks you MF’ers you just re ignited the ‘hate Americans’ by association mantra in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s time for some ‘Tough Love’when it comes to Isreal- they have grown far beyond their Britches. we ahve repeatedly taken beating merely because of our association with them- yet they have done nothing more than spurn them on.ENOUGH!as We well know the gov’t does not always speak for the people, nor act on their best behalf- so it is not the Isreali citizens I am pissed at, but their reckelss gov’t. This past election of YAHOOO only makes matters worse.and knowing how many top Bushies have duel citizenship only makes that election suspect.This practice Must be stopped- once in any Public service position, Duel citizenships rights must be revoked. They take a pledge to OUR country- Soley.This back and forth not only bastardizes our Political process, but those of the other countries. This too Must End.To hold public office,in any capacity with a duel citizenship is essential acting as a Double Agent- thus undermining the very Oath of allegience.
it’s time to not only recognize and celebrate the Isreali’s sovereignty- but make them act as an independent nation,Start Shit, you’d better be able to back it up yourselves.

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By omop, April 29, 2009 at 5:51 am Link to this comment

The Latin word most appropriate to, the historical relationship of the US and Israel, since its creation by the UN in 1948, is “incestum”.

The least and most that can be suggested is that that labelling has been more costly and disadvantaguous to the US than Israel and if guilr is to be assigned it needs to be to “the one that should have known better”.

That the “wink, wink” special relationship has lasted close to 60 years can only be evaluated in terms of what each side has gained or lost in terms of global respect, stature and attendant costs. 

The longer that “special” relationship is maintained the longer its disadvantaguous to the US. It has to change and asap for it to be of any value to the US and possibly in time to Israel too.

It also should serve the US policy makers as a lesson not to be repeated again with any other state. The rest of the world can hardly contain its glee at the way the US is being jerked around by a basically two-bit state.

Live and learn.

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By dsmith, April 29, 2009 at 4:36 am Link to this comment
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Let’s not forget that upon hearing about the tragedy of September 11th…Netanyahu screamed,“This is a great day for Israel”...knowing that the attack would be a catalyst for waging war on Arabs. He later apoligized, but that comment lets you know how Israel only wants to use the US for it’s own gain.

Blue Eagele..Last week the thug Avigdor Lieberman said, “Don’t worry that Obama wants a Palestinian state…The US will do as we say!”

I don’t know about you, but I don’t like being Israel’s bitch. I say cut off funding Israel for a couple of years and surprise!!! A Palestinian state is born!

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By Lynn, April 28, 2009 at 7:13 pm Link to this comment
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Once again, while Israel keeps the talks going, it builds more settlements. The only goal of Israel is to continue to build more settlements. There is no solution that will be agreed upon. Either the US or Israel, at the appointed hour, will force the hand of some militants, then balk at the possibilities of peace and the building will continue. The issues have never been complex, they reflect only the desire to occupy, to expand, because people of certain faiths should be able to have a homeland…Wake up oh Jews from hither and yon, the US is your homeland, you are safer here than there. You are respected, not blown up at the cafe. You can speak your mind, you don’t have to learn Hebrew if you don’t want to, you don’t have to enlist in the army, and you are not stealing other people’s property by living here…wake up and stop drinking the Kool Aid, tradition is slavery, atrocities are history, the past is full of mistakes and the only place to put a stake in is the future. Only the future can end slavery. Only the future can stop the atrocities comitted by men on each other. And, only in the future can we continue to coexist. Maybe the best solution would be to move here, let the Arabs have their desert, buy some old Amish farmland and kick back and start enjoying life rather than waiting to become martyrs in some land that was referenced in some scrolls written by people who knew a lot less about the world than we do today. Why cling to material things, to belief rather than truth, to traditions rather than relationships, to hatred instead of understanding, when there is so much we can do with and learn from each other?

Groucho: “Well whadaya say girls? Are we all gonna get married?
Woman: “All of us? But that’s bigamy!”
Groucho: “Yes, and it’s big-a-me too. Why don’t we all be big for a change?”

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By BlueEagle, April 28, 2009 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. 

Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and “turn the US against us.” 

Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying “don’t worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America.”

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