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 15 or Not, Alleged Pirate Will Be Tried as AdultPosted on Apr 21, 2009
Whether or not Abduwali Abukhadir Muse is 15, as his father claims, he will be tried in New York as an adult for his alleged role in holding an American ship captain as a hostage. Muse’s mother, on the other side of the world, has asked President Obama for mercy, or to at least let her be with her son. In what could be the first U.S. piracy case in 100 years, the judge ruled that Muse’s father was not credible in determining his son’s age.
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By Inherit The Wind, April 23, 2009 at 2:45 pm Link to this comment
Yet again, “The Contingent” are apologists for criminals.
1) The FATHER claims his son is 15 knowing that in the US 15 usually means “child” and family court—but FolkTruther believes the guy is telling the truth, even tho the son says he’s 18.
2) The hijacked ship’s crew all insists this guy was the ringleader.
3) Piracy is now…justifiable in FolkTruther’s twisted logic.
4) To FolkTruther, an 18 year old pirate with a Kalishnikov held to an unarmed seaman is a hero, but an 18 year old soldier with am M-16 held on a civilian Iraqi or Afghani is a war criminal.
TC is plain, old f***ed up.
Report thisBy thebeerdoctor, April 23, 2009 at 3:01 am Link to this comment
re: scorpionnet
Perhaps you feel better if an 18 year old American holds an automatic AR-15 at an unarmed Iraqi citizen’s head?
Report thisBy Jim Yell, April 22, 2009 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment
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Holding a 15 year old or 16 year old as an adult is certainly questionable. Factorinig in the ignorance of the masses of people in Somalia and the poverty, which may or may not be increased by the highjacking of Somalia’s fisheries by international fish piracy, should the American People be spending their tax money on prosecuting this child.
While criminals like Bush and Cheney can walk after lying the country into a war costing 100,000s Iraqi lives and thousands of American lives, how can a 15 year old be held accountable for something he was moved into doing by adults? Bush and Cheney and their enablers have bankrupted the country and we are supposed to believe that they are too important to prosecute, but a 15 year old should be in the slammer. I suppose the 15 year old should have killed some one and then perhaps he too would be free from prosecution.
Report thisBy JNagarya, April 22, 2009 at 1:20 pm Link to this comment
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“Scorpionet”—
How do you know there wasn’t a gun pointed at the kid REQUIRING him to point the gun they gave him at the hostage?
The laws prohibiting TORTURE are ALSO international, and apply to ALL countries, including the US.
You aren’t REALLY for enforcement of international law, ARE you?
Nor are you REALLY for knowing what you’re talking about before opening your bravous Keyboard Kommando yap from the safety of your bedroom.
Report thisBy Folktruther, April 22, 2009 at 9:11 am Link to this comment
Scorpionnet, Thank you for your post. I did’nt know that left wing lawyers chased fire trucks before. What the rest of us our concerned with is the barbarism of treating the alledged crimes of children as if they were adults. This includes the crimes of child soldiers, of which there are many in Africa.
Report thisBy Scorpionet, April 22, 2009 at 8:29 am Link to this comment
When you are photographed carrying a fully loaded Kalashikov AK-47 military grade fully automatic assault rifle pointing at an unarmed civilian held hostage in the international high seas you get charged with INTERNATIONAL piracy, a law universal to all countries. You go to jail! This is no monopoly game. What is it that pirate supporters at Truthdig and those firetruck-chasing left-wing lawyers don’t get?
Report thisBy voice of truth, April 22, 2009 at 8:27 am Link to this comment
ironically, the same people who posted this story, with comments about how can we not believe this kid’s father and mother that he is a great kid and is only 15, are the same people who posted a story about the Craigslist killer and the implication that the people who knew this man really didn’t know him and should be ignored.
The hypocrisy on this site continues….
And Dwightbaker, the pharmacy called, your lithium is ready.
Report thisBy thebeerdoctor, April 22, 2009 at 8:04 am Link to this comment
Speaking of pirates mates, here’s your grog:
Report thishttp://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175062/john_feffer_the_piracy_problem
By NYCartist, April 22, 2009 at 5:48 am Link to this comment
My thinking mirrors the start of Squeaky Jones’ comment. I was wondering if the 15 year old has been or will be tortured? What does that say about the US justice system? Adding on to another comment, about 15 year olds who were judged guilty of crimes who are on death row as adults. Also, there are kids who were judged “guilty” for crimes as teens who can/are receiving life sentences. That’s “not supposed to be”. The law excludes children from adult judicial pathways.
Even the age is “flexible” by a judge and who is an adult in recent years. Our prisons are full based on injustice of many kinds.
Report thisBy Folktruther, April 21, 2009 at 7:48 pm Link to this comment
The barbarism of the US criminal system is beyond dispute. There are two dozen persons incarcerated for life without parole who alledging committed crimes when they were under 15 years old.
Report thisBy Jo, April 21, 2009 at 6:01 pm Link to this comment
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Seriously, do they really think this kid was the ringleader of the pirates who seized the captain’s ship? I’m appalled by the treatment this kid is going through. With the atrocity that the west is committing in Somalian waters and what the US did during the Somalian civil war, I just can’t stand this kind of injustice. This angers me very much.
Report thisBy squeaky jones, April 21, 2009 at 5:31 pm Link to this comment
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Who else knows you better then your own Mom, and Dad. I have a strong feeling this kid has been ruffed up(tortured) already. Also, I like Mr. Fish’s cartoon, “One Mans Piracy” of the difference between somalian piracy and American piracy? Inc. Squeaky.
Report thisBy geronimo, April 21, 2009 at 5:27 pm Link to this comment
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President Barack Hussein Obama Should Pardon Abdiwali Abdiqadir Muse
“Based on?”
“A greater good.”
“Which is?”
“Peace on earth and goodwill to all living beings.”
“Brought about how?”
“Actions by our government which show the world that there’s been a complete turnabout in our relations with the rest of the world.”
“What will be the quid pro quo?”
“And end to piracy in that region.”
“Anything else?”
“President Obama reassigns the U.S. Naval vessels now engaged in countering piracy to the task of tracking down and chasing away any and all foreign ships which are carrying out unauthorized fishing or polluting the waters off the coast of Somalia.”
“The reason being?”
“It’s the decimation of Somalia’s fishing industry that’s driving its young men into piracy.”
“And the effect said pardoning will have upon U.S. relations with the Arab/Islamic nations?”
“Breathtaking.”
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