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Obama’s Role in the Pirate AffairPosted on Apr 13, 2009Jimmy Carter was ultimately undone by a hostage crisis and the word Somalia still haunts Bill Clinton’s legacy. While the weekend rescue of a hostage held by Somali pirates was of a much smaller scale and under totally different circumstances than those events, President Obama must be relieved that it is behind him, a success. And now that it’s over, it seems the president was more involved than he initially let on.
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By rico, suave, April 16, 2009 at 10:22 am Link to this comment
roman: I agree with your relative worth ratio. Thanks.
But I think Obama should be brought up on war crimes charges for killing those three black, teenage, Muslim, innocent Somali fishermen.
Report thisBy roman, April 16, 2009 at 3:21 am Link to this comment
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Obama what a hero…appease the nation…one american is worth more than a million iraqis and afghanis.
Report thisBy diogenes, April 13, 2009 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment
rfidler,
How utterly dishonest can you get?
The reference is clearly to a “Swiss firm” not Swiss waste.
Please argue the message, not the messengers (I’d use the term ‘ad hominem’ but you would only consider it baiting).
Report thisBy rico, suave, April 13, 2009 at 1:25 pm Link to this comment
diogenes:
The link worked fine. In fact the next time I need inciteful political/social analysis of the debacle which is Somalia, I’ll be sure to consult a Canadian hip-hop “artist” named K’naan, whose only possible claim to relevance on the subject is that he possibly has some Somali ancestors. Did YOU read his post? Nuclear waste and uranium- from Switzerland!!???
How does one read one’s own hubris? Are you showing off the new word you learned today?
Report thisBy M. Currey, April 13, 2009 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment
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People forget that the French also took out some pirates and a hostage was killed, also kidnappers might not kill all the time but they have killed, especially if they do not get enough ransom, these fisherman turned pirates do not get all the money they are the lowlife fish and this is a criminal business and if left uncheched will continue.
When people were calling Obama a no nothing president he was holding his cards close to his chest.
During World War II there was an expression “loose lips sink ships” and Obama is our commander-in-chief and he was the one who had to issue the command as the navy is under his command, so maybe he did not do much but he did what was right.
This president is not spineless as some would want him to be.
Report thisBy diogenes, April 13, 2009 at 12:19 pm Link to this comment
What’s the matter rfidler? Did the link not work for you or is it that you can’t get enough of reading your own hubris?
Report thisBy .270WSM, April 13, 2009 at 12:07 pm Link to this comment
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This years fashion finds nothing compliments a pirate hat better than a
Report this180-grain hat pin delivered at 2700 fps – also for spring, red neckties
will do in a pinch.
By Shift, April 13, 2009 at 11:17 am Link to this comment
This crisis is not over. Two hundred people are being held by the Somali’s on other ships. Was it wise to kill three Somali’s? Probably, but who among the other two hundred captives will die to revenge the three dead Somali’s. I’m sure we will find out soon.
Report thisBy rico, suave, April 13, 2009 at 11:16 am Link to this comment
diogenes:
Report thisJust read your link to rebelreports.com. It defined a new outer boundary for the loony left.
By diogenes, April 13, 2009 at 10:45 am Link to this comment
Here’s another one:
http://rebelreports.com/post/95749163/when-will-the-media-interview-somalis-about-the
When Will the Media Interview Somalis About the ‘Somali’ Pirates?
By Jeremy Scahill
Report thisThis incident highlights the typical double standards, media spin, political posturing and overwhelming use of force by the US of A.
By rico, suave, April 13, 2009 at 10:41 am Link to this comment
ITW:
Report thisTrue. But I’m not as sanguine as you about him getting any type of credit. There are those out here in TD land who will blame him for getting involved at any level, especially in relying on the US Navy.
By Inherit The Wind, April 13, 2009 at 10:23 am Link to this comment
If it failed, Obama would be UNCONDITIONALLY blamed.
Since it succeeded, he deserves credit for leadership in a crisis.
Simple as that.
Report thisBy Boyless Dogg, April 13, 2009 at 9:59 am Link to this comment
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Due credit - locked and loaded Navy SEALS and awesome MAERSK crewmanship, no credit - hope huffing gas bags safe in this hemisphere.
Report thisBy Anarcissie, April 13, 2009 at 8:11 am Link to this comment
To concoct a good theory, I at least need a story that makes some kind of sense to begin with. In the Somali pirate legend, we have a bunch of ragtag bandits with light machine guns and an RPG or two defying the most powerful states on earth, including the United States. They’re hiding whole big ships from satellites which can practically read your license plate. It’s hard to add weirdness to a story like that. But at least we all have someone to agree on hating for a while, until the Somalis run out of volunteers who want to be popped off by a major power, that is.
Report thisBy rico, suave, April 13, 2009 at 8:04 am Link to this comment
I think we should demand an immediate indictment of Barak Obama for war crimes. The unconsionable murder of three private Somali citizens in international waters, who clearly posed no threat whatsoever to US security is absolutely unforgivable. I thought we left this type of cowboy justice behind us last November. The Navy clearly used weapons superior to those possessed by the indigent Somalis: So much for the “proportional response” we thought we could expect from the criminal Obama administration.
The shipping company, which was ostensibly carrying “food and relief supplies” (yeah, right!) should have seen to their own security. They obviously thought the captain was expendable, else they would have protected him better in the first place. The US Navy has far better things to do, like killing Afghan and Iraqi women and kids. They shouldn’t be given the responsibility of protecting American citizens just anywhere they might be in the world.
Report thisBy diogenes, April 13, 2009 at 7:34 am Link to this comment
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Here. Try this on for size, boys.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/41661
“You are being lied to about pirates”
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2009-04-13 0:30
By Johann Hari, San Francisco Bay View
Report thisBy Rbrooks, April 13, 2009 at 7:31 am Link to this comment
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This is new to me… I read that this was the first international ‘test’ that Obama faced and of course, passed with flying colors.
Report thisDid we forget about Korea?
By rico, suave, April 13, 2009 at 5:58 am Link to this comment
ITW: Terrific post! What was it we disagreed about on other subjects in TD? Forgive me.
It has started with Jackpine, who can’t bring himself to believe that there might be autonomous bad actors in the world who go about their business completely independent of the evil manipulations of Dick Cheney and Bebe Netanyahu.
Report thisBy Lyn, April 13, 2009 at 5:22 am Link to this comment
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Obama’s name does not even deserve to be mentioned in this. The heroes are the captain who was kidnapped and the Navy (and any other US military) personnel involved in the operation. Obama deserve zero credit for this he is a slacker. If anything this ordeal was prolonged because of Obama impotence and incompetence.
Report thisBy Holly, April 13, 2009 at 5:08 am Link to this comment
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I’m sure some of the bitter GOP secretly might have hoped that Obama would fail at this mission. Fortunately, Obama and of course the Navy Seals won this battle and an American life was saved. I think we should all be happy about that, no matter if we are “liberal” or “conservative”.
Report thisBy jackpine savage, April 13, 2009 at 3:47 am Link to this comment
ITW,
It will happen…almost certainly.
But i’ve been more amused by reading comments on liberal sites filled with comments like, “Yeah, woohoo, our boys killed ‘em good.” And, “I heard that the SEALS were wearing ‘Change you can believe in’ T-shirts.”
It appears that America - left or right - really enjoys killing. It isn’t something that must be done at times for Americans, if the right people do it it is worthy of cheers and high-fives.
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, April 13, 2009 at 3:23 am Link to this comment
I’m just waiting for the usual deluge of excrement that tells us this was a false flag operation, that the Somali pirates are really freedom-fighters, that EVERYTHING we were told about the incident is a lie crafted by the MSM, and, finally, that the Israelis were behind the whole thing.
I’m sure I’ve missed a fantasy or three, but, Hey! Nobody’s perfect.
Either that, or, like when the Arab League all embraced Bashir of Sudan, all the “moralists” here at TD who blame EVERY ill in the world on Israel and Zionists will develop severe laryngitis and lockjaw…not a peep.
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