Mass movements in general require the need or desire to promote change and provides hope for those wanting change, this can be political or Religious, history repeats it self, again and again. Solutions are unknown, for they have never been, except for short periods of time, until the next movement.

Notice, I did say in general, there are different comprehensive requirements for each movement, with some basic required similarities.

To the ultra-orthodox or fundamentalist of any stripe and type the reality is wrong and they do everything they can to mask it and change it to their own distorted ancient views of how things should and must be.

Muslims are picked on because they are the new bete noir of our country who must have a vast enemy in which to ‘fight’ and to fund a military espionage complex that is funded by at least ten times the combined budgets of the top ten ‘enemies’ of the USA. Would be empires must have this in order to survive. Pirates and thuggery at the end of a “Predator” drone or troops on the ground.

Fadel,
I give you credit for honesty at least: you admit you REALLY want Israel crushed and therefore MUST want the corollary—every Jew thrown out of the Middle East, whether thrown into the ocean to drown or “thrown” out of life or just sent “somewhere else”.

You also know it ain’t gonna happen so there’s SOME logical reasoning going on in your head superior to your rabid hatred.  But not enough to endorse the 2-State solution even as the best alternative.

I don’t see you sticking up for the women victims of the Taliban, or for them against Hamid Karzai’s new edict that rape in marriage is legal.

Nor do I see you sticking up for the victims in Darfur and condemning Bashir as the monster he is—nor do I see you condemning your “freedom-loving” leaders of Arab nations for embracing Bashir.

You can’t even bring yourself to feel sympathy for the poor people in Binghamton who were murdered by this crazy f***-up.  Since I’ve walked past that red church next to the Civic Center a hundred times when I lived there, it was very close to home—even closer in some ways than the WTC—which is only 25 miles from me.

Unlike your lack of concern for anyone not Palestinian, I OTOH, really want the Palestinian people to have their own nation, to have peace, and to prosper, and to build trade and economic ties with Israel, and, eventually, a military alliance and Union similar to the EU, where they are equal partners.

If you want a reactionary, talk to Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coultergeist or any of those fascist @$$holes on Fox Noise, not me.

As for your posts be more worth parsing than Sodium’s? So what?  That’s like being the smartest bear in the zoo.  BFD.

By Inherit The Wind, April 7 at 12:43 am #

Fadel:

“It also doesn’t change the truth that YOUR “solution” to the Middle East problems is a war to destroy Israel, irony, sarcasm or whatever aside.”
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Two points, ITW:

1. I want to be honest with you and say what I said on other occasions, which is that “what was taken by force must be restored by force.” Of course, this means a quick war of liberation. Hamas or Fatah or the Palestinians alone are not, and will never be a match to Israel destructive and terrorizing power. Therefore, for a quick war of liberation to be effective and yield the desired results, with the least number of casualties on both sides of the conflict, Arabs must unite and form a United States of Arabs, parallel to the United States of America. The combined economic and human resources of such union will easily raise a huge army that would overwhelm Israel and make it metaphorically “wet its pants,” bring it to its senses and force it sew for peace. This is the only way to solve this problem in the fastest and least costly way in terms of lives on both sides.

However, since there are no signs of this happening, in my and your lifetime, you practically don’t need to worry about it, and I practically need not have illusions about it!

2. Having said this, I would like to thank you for stocking me and making me feel important when you indulge in your favorite hairsplitting of my posts to the point that you even load my words with more than they are supposed to mean. This makes me feel good; for if it means anything it means that my comments are thought-provoking. None on Truthdig does that so frequently as you do. Therefore, I have to thank you for giving me the satisfaction of knowing that there is someone who religiously reads, analyze and tries to hair split my words. I know you’re not in the business of giving religion any value, but when it comes to reacting to my posts, you do indeed do that religiously. May I call you humorously “THE REACTIONARY”!

To prove the point I just explained above, I would like to cite your latest post in reaction to my response to Sodium. In that post you simply dismissed Sodium long post addressed to you directly by saying: “I’ve read many of your posts.  I don’t bother to respond to them because it would be pointless: they are simply puerile and inane. You understand nothing.”

So based on the above-cited statement, you only employ your intellectual muscles and valuable time to respond to “pointed” and thought-provoking posts like mine!

So keep up the good work; for it only adds to my pleasure! And may I add that it takes a Semite to value, appreciate and take seriously what other Semite says!

Fadel:

Face it: you would LOVE IT if somehow the President of the United States took us to war against Israel!

Of course it’s safe for you to advocate such a war, since we both know it ain’t gonna happen (but you’d still LOVE IT!).  Therefore you can claim sarcasm (though I think irony would be more appropriate).

It also doesn’t change the truth that YOUR “solution” to the Middle East problems is a war to destroy Israel, irony, sarcasm or whatever aside.

After all, as the old saying goes “Many a truth is said in jest!”

Sodium: I’ve read many of your posts.  I don’t bother to respond to them because it would be pointless: they are simply puerile and inane.  You understand nothing.

By Sodium, April 6 at 7:18 pm #
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Re:Inherit The Wind,April 6 at 1:50 pm.

“Come on,ITW,you are much smarter than allowing yourself to write the garbage you emotionall,passionately and bombasticaaly poured against Dr.Fadel Abdallah in your above Re.”
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Warm Greetings and heart-felt gratitude, Sodium, for saving me the time and agony of responding to ITW!

Actually, I read your comment before I even saw what he wrote. Besides all the commonsense points you raised, I just want to add that ITW does not understand the subtlety of the rhetorical questions and the meanings of exclamation marks, nor does he seem to understand the subtle sarcasm of my comment!

Hypothetically, if ITW knew that I am actually the Commander-in-Chief of the US military establishment, he would have dismissed my statement as a bluff, since he knows very well that no American, from the President down, would ever dare to declare a war on Israel, except for a sarcastic wishful thinker like Fadel Abdallah!

Leefeller—Not to quote Reagan (although both parties seem to do it liberally), but, I would bet that one man’s fanatic is another man;s freedom fighter.

I’m sick to death of religious fanatacism.

When the US further loses its WASP identity, maybe this will start to change. Although minorities seem just as prone to evangelism.

I understand it, sortve. But I just wish that they would stf up about it.

Talking about fanatics of different shades of blood red, would it be less bigoted if one said fanatics in general? Maybe that is bigoted in evan a larger degree?

And Israel talks about Islamic fundamentalism…

I think some were making a point about how hypocritical we are about “fundamentalism”, in our allies. Saudi Arabiua is another great example.

The US has not exactly been “standout” on rights for women lately.

Fadel Abdallah, April 5 at 10:41 am #

At a time when the most so-called conservatives, like King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, had his wife accompany him to the G-20 Summit in London, and was photographed publicly with the other spouses of attendees, in Israel women were photoshopped Out Of Israeli Cabinet Picture to Please Ultra-Orthodox. Isn’t it time for the US to declare a war on Israel under the pretext of liberating it from the Jewish Taliban.?!
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There you have it, folks! The self-proclaimed Arab Intellectual teaching at a major (or minor) American university comes up with his fabulous peace-keeping plan for the Middle-East:

Make war on Israel! 

How original! How unique! How different than all the other Arab solutions over the last 61 years!

All his protestations of wanting peace, not hating Jews, yada, yada, yada, and what’s he want? Another war against Israel.

Gee, Fadel.  Do you claim to speak for all Arabs, or just yourself?  Are you going to volunteer to fight in this war?  Are you going to send your sons and daughters to fight this war?  Or are you going to do a Bush-Cheney chicken hawk act and send somebody ELSE’s children to fight and die in this war you advocate?

Actually, you ARE different than many other Arabs.  The Saudis actually sponsored a plan for making peace and normalizing relations with Israel a few years ago.  Whether a good plan or not, at least it was a plan for peaceful co-existence.

Meanwhile Fadel is back at the old plan of the Mufti, of Nasser, of Sadat, of Arafat, of Assad, of Saddam from 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 and the Intifadas: Make war on Israel.

Yeah, Fadel.  brilliant. Glad I was never one of your students—I’d have to go to school twice as long as everyone else UNLEARNING what you teach.

Here are two other links about the increasing ugly reality of Israel’s apartheid and fanaticism!
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It’s A Lieberman Government
By Uri Avnery

http://www.countercurrents.org/avnery050409.htm

“On the first day of the new Israeli government, the fog cleared: it’s a Lieberman government…”
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Israel And The Crime Of Apartheid
By Hazem Jamjoum

http://www.countercurrents.org/jamjoum050409.htm

“In recent years, increasing numbers of individuals around the world have begun adopting and developing an analysis of Israel as an apartheid regime. This can be seen in the ways that the global movement in support of the Palestinian anti-colonial struggle is taking on a pointedly anti-apartheid character, as evidenced by the growth of Israeli Apartheid Week…”

Well, this means good tidings for the Military complex.

At a time when the most so-called conservatives, like King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, had his wife accompany him to the G-20 Summit in London, and was photographed publicly with the other spouses of attendees, in Israel women were photoshopped Out Of Israeli Cabinet Picture to Please Ultra-Orthodox. Isn’t it time for the US to declare a war on Israel under the pretext of liberating it from the Jewish Taliban.?!
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JERUSALEM — Two women serve in Israel’s new Cabinet, but some Israelis would rather not see them.

Newspapers aimed at ultra-Orthodox Jewish readers tampered with the inaugural photograph of the Cabinet, erasing ministers Limor Livnat and Sofa Landver.

Ultra-Orthodox newspapers consider it immodest to print images of women.

The daily Yated Neeman digitally changed the photo, moving two male ministers into the places formerly occupied by the women.

The weekly Shaa Tova simply blacked the women out, in a photo reprinted Friday by the mainstream daily Maariv.

No response was available from the two papers.

During the election, campaign posters featuring female candidate Tzipi Livni were defaced near ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods.

Jewish Talibani Neighborhood:  http://atheism.about.com/b/2008/09/17/jewish-taliban-ultra-orthodox-vigilantes-in-jerusalem.htm

A Religious War in Israel’s Army : http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/22/weekinreview/22BRONNER.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

I know nobody believes me, but I really cannot stand the Ultra-Orthodox!  To me, they are no different than the Taliban, only they call themselves “Jews”.  I see nothing of the greatness of the Jewish people in them. Nothing.  Like the Taliban they are still in the Middle Ages, only with 21st century technology and weapons.

Hey, alright! Another kooky pseudo-religious government, this one with nukes and God’s permission to use them. So what happens if the women speak out of turn? Or, God forbid, reach out to shake one of their colleagues’ hand? Immediate banishment? A smart slap to the face? Twenty lashes?

This, friends, is our “closest ally”. Remember that when it comes down to the wire.

Sounds like they could have made the lesser women wear burka’s. Residue of religion, is the bad taste it leaves in the mind.

Nothing hilarious about it.

Wow! Magic!

This is kind of like the prestidigitation that takes place at websites like CommonDreams. You post a stinging anti-Zionist comment, and “POOF” it disappears!