Diamond,

Conservatives are like cats, they hate to hear laughter aimed at them! Very funny post.

This is where Bobby Jindal got his talking point from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0cpjhTRO28

Re: diamond

Your comment:  “Of course, other countries produce them too but the species in America of Conservativea Stupidicus is particularly noteworthy for its large tin ears, big mouth, small brain and strident call. Their plumage is usually of a dull yet lustrous grey and they have a hypnotic stare which they use to attract the female of the species, Conservativea Bleach Blondii. They are also noteworthy for having numerous nesting places and for storing nest eggs in other species’ nests and also for carrying out senseless attacks on other species.

Your comment definitely deserves the “Commenters’ Academy Award”.  Good Post.

ridinginfaith,

So, what was your take on his presentation?

don knutsen and all others try research and reading.

http://www.businessweek.comthe_threadhotpropertyarchives/2008/02/clintons_drive.html

http://query.nytimes.comgstfullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260

as far as answering any of you about your “oh i didn’t mean that that way”. Just watch out for any crazy chimps.

Because Mr. Jindal is pitiable, does that make Mr. Obama a prophet? No.

Both Jindal and Obama want to preserve American capitalism as we know it. The public believes that Obama is a better savior than Jindal.

Unfortunately, Mr. Obama’s understanding of what brought about the current economic/financial disaster is frighteningly primitive.

I have repeatedly argued that the primary cause was the increasing discrepancy between inflation and the mean income of the working class which reached a “tipping point” in early/mid 2008.

The current economic recession/depression will not end until the median income of the working class rises above the inflationary pressures of the past several years. If Obama’s “new” and “saved” jobs do not do that the recession/depression will be lengthy.
Mr. Obama’s plans will mostly benefit the well-educated so-called “upper middle class”.

There are several reasons why the situation today is even more dangerous than during the “Great Depression”. Foremost among these is that we have a pathetically weak labor movement which is hogtied to corrupt politicians.

The one resounding message the American public is getting consistently from the Republican party is, “You are idiots”.

The Republican talking-points, lack of substantive alternatives, dogmatic adherance to failed policies, and blatant hypocracy are no longer obscured in the minds of the public by the rhetoric of “Patriotism” they so freely parroted in the last administration while they usurped power and shredded the Constitution. We the poeple are not so easily fooled by them and are finally shining a bright light on their deceptions.

Here’s a few points the Republicans need to get straight:

* “Liberal” does not mean “Godless” or “Socialist”
* “American” does not mean “Conservative” or “Evangelical Christian”
* “Principled” or “Moral” does not mean “Right-wing”
* “Fiscally Conservative” does not mean “Spend frivolously on war, but scream bloody-murder over entitlements”

The Jindal response was predictable and rigidly in line with their obstructionist agenda. They are Reaganoid zombies, unaware of their own death, starving to eat our brains.

How does it happen? Americans by and large are nice people even if they have a tendency to tinearitis, a disease that means you can’t hear what other people are saying even when they’re shouting that your house is on fire. And yet they can produce monsters like Jindal and Bush and de Lay and Rove and the Dick. Of course, other countries produce them too but the species in America of Conservativea Stupidicus is particularly noteworthy for its large tin ears, big mouth, small brain and strident call. Their plumage is usually of a dull yet lustrous grey and they have a hypnotic stare which they use to attract the female of the species, Conservativea Bleach Blondii. They are also noteworthy for having numerous nesting places and for storing nest eggs in other species’ nests and also for carrying out senseless attacks on other species.

A few thought fragments concerning the Jindal spin: Tone-deaf, pre-written, baldly disingenuous, filled with Republican buzz-words for the talk-show fans, veiled threats against the American people at large, empty of any but disproved wrong-thinking…

The very nerve of invoking “Katrina” to illustrate the ineffectiveness of “government” was stunning. For a Republican to regard the handling of natural disasters under their watch as any kind of success is about as amnesic as it is possible to get. The leader of the party declared, just after the storm and floods, that they officially regarded it as a great opportunity to rid the city of the undesirables in the population, “welfare reform” and subsequently grab the land. In effect, he explained the deliberate inaction of the leadership motivated by selfish benefits to them in NOT helping the people down there. They sure do not “get” that simply bringing it up, especially to support their ridiculous ideologies, is to recall to the minds of thinking people all the facts of what they did and are still doing. I refer to is as “The Battle of New Orleans”; fitting metaphor for the Republican view-point indeed.

Realize, these are people that are dead against the common people and ONLY represent the nobility; wealthy and privileged. They only barely contain their contempt for the majority of us when they must (in public, at least). They have consistently prevented anything that might benefit the public and improve their lives. This IS their whole purpose. When is this fact going to finally sink in with the full public?

Louise,

Yes watching Jandal falling on the sword was hard to watch. Sending the boy to sacrifice, seems so Gop. You may be correct about the base and what some want to hear.

In the past I have stated the two parties are very hard to tell apart, for I always suspect they are controlled by the elite, sort of the good old boys, taking turns in the barrel.  So it is important to make issue for the survival of the opposition party needs to pick up the peaces if the Dems fail.  Must not allow a real party of the people in? 

My thoughts are on hold for now, for Obama does not seem to be totaly in synic with the good old boys rather the opposite. Could OBama be the real thing?

I recently heard Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D) Florida discuss having worked with then, Rep. Bobby Jindal on legislation regarding Katrina. She had nothing but kind words for the man, and I take her word with high regard. Jindal is highly thought of in the State of Louisiana, and until this silly issue on the stimulus came along, with good reason. But then perhaps his position on the stimulus actually is a reflection of what the majority of voters in Louisiana want! I don’t know.

I think, for whatever it’s worth Governor Jindal has allowed himself to be conned by an ambitious, albeit not to bright party that has fallen out of power. I also think it’s really sad, because he has allowed himself to be put in the uncomfortable position of being compared to Obama. That requires a lot of guts. Or maybe just a lack of smarts.

What I felt as I watched him last night was a great deal of empathy. Not fun to be the one chosen to take the fall for the boss. I suspect there wasn’t one other person in the GOP willing to be the one who responded to the Presidents speech. I also suspect the party powers reviewed and approved his remarks before the fact. Unfortunately they had no way of knowing how Obama would come across.

As far as using Katrina as an example of government failing, that was an excellent example. I think we can all agree on that. The fact that it was his party running the government at the time is not lost on us, but will probably be lost on the base he’s targeting. We all know folks who understand a problem when they’re right in the middle of it, but don’t have a clue how they got there! Those are the folks who, lacking the ability to remember names or simple facts, call themselves independent, but often as not vote republican. Those are the folks who avoid discussing the action or inaction of an elected official, preferring to simply say, they are all the same!

I think that’s the base Governor Jindal was targeting. That’s the base the GOP is going after. That’s the base that hurts but doesn’t know why, complains but cant get specific. Likes quick sound-bites and a level of discrimination, because they have spent a life-time feeling their own victim-hood. And that’s why I believe Governor Jindal’s remarks were pre-approved by the party powers. They have spent decades targeting the uninformed and the gullible. They simply don’t know how to do things any other way. But that doesn’t mean Governor Jindal is uninformed and gullible. That just means he’s a republican.

It is high time that the Grand Orgy Party, give up on the rhetoric of smaller government, less taxes and less intrusion into our lives.
The Republicans were the ones who, voted in the Patriot Act, the Transportation Safety Authority, secret rendition, torture, Guantanamo Bay Cuba, Abu Ghraib prison, Bagram Air Force Base, the economic meltdown of the whole world, and other sordid and assorted laws and happenings. All this, under the guise of having less government.
Yes, we had less oversight of government, but not less government.  The Republicans in Congress made it
impossible for Congress to do its Constitutionally derived authority and made sure that we the people, held in the dark about all the war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocidal acts that the shrubs administration perpetrated or were party too.
I am appalled at the lack of citizen involvement in the electoral process and the governmental processes that are now taking place. We will pay the piper soon
enough. Must we be subjected to more miasma and diatribe every time a Republican opens their mouth?
Enough already!  Republicans say something substantive, something with meaning, not more of the same old bull shit that we have heard for the last 30
years. This 30 years including the Clinton Administration.
We the people, want action and help, not more of the same greedy and avaricious nature that pervades the Republican party.
Next time a Republican speaks, turn him/her off. That’s why G-d invented the mute/off button on the remote.

In a word; pathetic! It was too painful, so I turned it off. So; he’s the rising, new star of the GOP, LMAO! Even his own party thought it was amateurish and said nothing to help, but more to further hurt the GOP. Thank god!

Jindal is truthful to the Republican playbook:

“Americans as a lot are scared illiterate morons who gladly give their money to the government to go kill people in other countries, but become increasingly selfish and mean to the thought of providing assistance to their families and friends.”

Don’t trust the federal government, he said, because of what it did to New Orleans during Katrina. Never mind that the federal government had been hijacked by conservative, oil sucking and war profiteering American hating Republicans.

Right wingers are so stupid that instead of realizing that all you have to do is to get rid of those who use the federal government to subsidize fornication, greed, and corruption, you need to send another hypocrite government hating Republican to make sure that the government doesn’t come up with ways to make life better for everyone.

Guess what stone age Louisiana like morons, the clock has turned another day, and there is no going back.

He sure could use some Acting lessons. I had to turn him off. I felt embarrassed for him.

Must admit I missed Jandal’s speech, and thank goodness that I did.  I keep hearing it was like one of those infomercials.

i cant help but express a touch of schadenfruede over the downfall of the gop to dangerous depths with their presentation of faux-obama, jindal, a talking point spouting animatron.  the impression was glaringly minor league. 

in purely partisan terms this was a triumphant day for democrats, holding down the top 3 seats, and obama doing a beautiful delivery of state propaganda.  and as much as the real truth may be “chicken shit,” obama managed to turn it into “chicken salad.” 

that being said, all this political theater is really just salad dressing on death.  but sometimes you can manage to enjoy the band as the ship sinks.

Jindal was almost cartoonish in his delivery. He must have thought he was to give a speech on Sesame Street. Way to go GOP, show us the best you’ve got.

Why doesn’t he put his money where his mouth is and refuse all the money. Whatta punk.

Re: ridinginfaith

I did check out your link, but as it is I “noticed” the disclaimer at the bottom of the page.

“The views expressed by RenewAmerica columnists are their own and do not necessarily reflect the position of RenewAmerica or its affiliates.”

Well….so much for that.  Again, you still have not answered ANY of my questions.

Re: ridinginfaith

Additionally, now that I think of it, you’ve not answered my question.

“Your comment:  “You people are really weird! Race,color,appearance did not even cross my mind. You call Republicans racist when I see words like blackface,brownie,brown skinned, not to mention the hate to me that is just really weird.”

I’m just curious of course…. if race “did not even cross your mind”, how is it you claim that “when I see words like blackface, brownie, brown skinned, (and of course) NOT TO MENTION THE HATE TO ME”.......you “picked up” on it…?”

And the fact is, around these here parts, someone might call you a “dickhead”, this means you are ignorant of your actions, however no maliciousness is implied.  Now, if someone calls you a “dick”, this is more serious, and means…. you maliciously MEANT to fuck with them.  As far as calling someone a cunt, this too has several interpretations, sometimes it means, I’m a horny jerk and “I like that cunt” which….as bad as that is…is STILL not the same as calling someone, most specifically a man, a cunt.  In this case, “cunt” means a ruthless bitch OR the most despicable of men.

Yep, that’d be the way it is around these here parts, and just for the record weasel is about the worst.  And in this sense I agree, there’s nothing worse than a person who (around here) we call “a weasel”.

So, you see….I wasn’t being ALL that vicious.  But you have to call a spade a spade.

Please read this:
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/turner/030810

God.  What a slam on Rhodes Scholars.  If we had seen him walk away from the podium we would have seen that string with a ring hanging from his back.

A five year old could have given this rebuttal.

Republicans are clueless and surely doomed.

They have created and live in their own alternative universe.

ridinginfaith,

I cannot speak for anyone else, but what you may be observing is sarcasm toward the Republicans.  Remember their first debate for candidate selection on stage, looked like a KKK convention without the sheets. NO women or ethnic representation at all.

Re: ridinginfaith

“Outraged:Jindal is a punk, two-bit lackey.  He’s still hoping to “cash out” with the corporate flunkies.

Ya’ know the “rednecks” around here have a word for the likes of Jingle…. I shouldn’t repeat it, ..well… only because you twisted my arm.  Cunt.”

Explain what was racist about my comment.  This is factually what the “rednecks” (note, that is in quotes) say about people the likes of Jindal.  It’s all true.

Oh yes feel the love everyone.

B:Face it: Jindal is just John Mccain in blackface.

drklassen,:brown-skinned folk

Outraged:Jindal is a punk, two-bit lackey.  He’s still hoping to “cash out” with the corporate flunkies.

Ya’ know the “rednecks” around here have a word for the likes of Jingle…. I shouldn’t repeat it, ..well… only because you twisted my arm.  Cunt.

Purple Girl,: McConnel and Boehner choose the ‘brown skin’ guy to carry their toxic water- typical and pathetic!

Inherit The Wind:.he ain’t Caucasian….and they cynically think this “negates” Obama not being White and shows they aren’t what they really are: Racist to the core. WHAT?

ridinginfaith,

Maybe we are a little hard on him. After all it was the Republicans who hung him out to dry, anyone giving a speech following Obama looks pathetic. After the hard hitting Republican response from this guy, I just cannot wait for his first book to come out. “What My Pappy said”

ridinginfaith, February 24 at 8:33 pm #

You people are really weird! Race,color,appearance did not even cross my mind. You call Republicans racist when I see words like blackface,brownie,brown skinned, not to mention the hate to me that is just really weird.
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You are kidding, right?  You are really that much at sea??????  “Heckuva job, Brownie” was when George W. Bush referred to a guy NAMED Brown, who was head of FEMA, when it failed during Katrina.  Mr. Brown’s sole qualification to head FEMA was he had traded Arabian horses, and is NO WAY a reference to COLOR.  Have you been stuck on a desert island for the last 8 years?????

Re: ridinginfaith

Your comment:  “You people are really weird! Race,color,appearance did not even cross my mind. You call Republicans racist when I see words like blackface,brownie,brown skinned, not to mention the hate to me that is just really weird.”

I’m just curious of course…. if race “did not even cross your mind”, how is it you claim that “when I see words like blackface, brownie, brown skinned, (and of course) NOT TO MENTION THE HATE TO ME”.......you “picked up” on it…?

All they had to do was put Rudy Giuliani in a dress for the same effect.  What is so sad, many Republicans believe this kind of tripe, all you have to do is look at the alleged success of Palin?

You people are really weird! Race,color,appearance did not even cross my mind. You call Republicans racist when I see words like blackface,brownie,brown skinned, not to mention the hate to me that is just really weird.

Let’s not forget that the ONLY reason Jindal is delivering the Response for the GOP is….he ain’t Caucasian….and they cynically think this “negates” Obama not being White and shows they aren’t what they really are: Racist to the core.

Did any of you count all the contradictions made in what I would say is the first time positive words were used, instead of the gloom and doom talk.

I personally did not like what President Bush did by dropping his freemarket beliefs and he admitted it. I believe they are all in it for there own agenda and power and it is time “WE THE PEOPLE” let them know that.

Yeah.  Let’s give control back to the people who screwed up EVERYTHING with their tax cuts for the rich and whose only solution is…..MORE TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!

I LOVED when Jindal told the story of the Sheriff and the boats and the Govt official who wouldn’t let them sail.  Who was in charge of the government and that guy’s boss? REPUBLICANS, as in “Heckuva job, Brownie!”

Is this guy really this dumb?  I don’t think so. But does he really think Americans are this dumb? Clearly.  Let’s remember: Jindal is not talking in a vacuum—he’s the REPRESENTATIVE of the Republican Party.  So if he thinks Americans are stupid enough to buy this bullshit, it means the ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY believes you and I are stupid enough to buy their bullshit.

Yet again it’s Chico Marx: “Who you gonna believe: Me or your own eyes?”  They really think we won’t believe our own eyes, even after 8 years.

When I saw him walk up to the camera, I thought he was the pizza delivery guy.  Actually felt sorry for him, in his mind he may think he is in Obama’s ball park.  If he had responded directly to Obama’s speech, he would have been more impressive. Must say I am over joyed the Republicans did not select Palin for the job, they could have selected Limbaugh for more entertainment value, but they probably couldn’t afford to feed him.

Jindal is a punk, two-bit lackey.  He’s still hoping to “cash out” with the corporate flunkies.  Let’s show him just how MUCH we care “to send the very best.”

Endorse the VERY BEST. Let’s “call”...., what’d ya’ got, Jingle…..only three deuces, such as shame, I feel bad, but that won’t beat out the MILLIONS of ACES over here.

Ya’ know the “rednecks” around here have a word for the likes of Jingle…. I shouldn’t repeat it, ..well… only because you twisted my arm.  Cunt.

Jindals Response was as pathetic as those chewed up JR High Hygiene films-Uninformative and Irrelevant for the times.
Is this the Repugs ‘rising Star’? then I am more confident than ever they are not coming back into power for a very LONG time.Probably Like the Iraqi’s felt right after Saddam was hung.
Really was that a Joke, or just another example of how Repugs throw their young out to be consumed like Raw meat. Jindal was a patsy,providing cover for the Repug Cowards in the congress. Obviously not wanting to put their political necks onthe Line- McConnel and Boehner choose the ‘brown skin’ guy to carry their toxic water- typical and pathetic!

If conservatives wanted to have an honest debate over Keynesian economics, that would be one thing.  Instead, though, they engage in misrepresention and create confusion in the minds of the public.

It’s funny how Bobby thinks he stands a snowballs chance in hell of being taken seriously by the repug base. They wouldn’t even vote for Romney because of his “hokey” religion.

Face it, Jindal is just John Mccain in blackface.

(wow, even I thought that was tasteless!)