hippy pam- you’re a teacher?  I’m astonished.  I still remember the thread where the corrupt judges put thousands of kids in prison for minor or no offenses, and you argue that the “little punks” (as you referred to them) who were badly brought up deserved it.  Indeed you stated that the government was on the side of the criminals and if they weren’t you could drill the little punks and not get into trouble.

I wonder if teaching tends to instill these kinds of attitudes in some teachers at some time, although you were opposed in your views by another teacher, Omniadeo.  It seems in any event that your humanistic values are a little confused, to say the least.

To those whose chains I rattled…..I apologise that you mis-understood what I meant…..

I see that a lot on this site…People read the posts-then jump on them without giving the “writer” any doubts.It’s all in what is inferred by the “reader”...
I “spoke” to cyrena because I though she would “see” the irony of the “bigots” whose kids want to be rappers etc….I mentioned my Native American Heritage I use as a tool when I teach.I’m still asked by at least one kid in the class- if I ride a horse and kill deer….
I thought we were all on here to change the way things are….To make statements that will bring about change for the better..To stop cartoons that spout negative ideas about our elected president…

Instead-I am attacked…

TD3-My tribe is regognized but not my band-I get nothing from the gubmint….and oh yeah-I do pay taxes-do need a fishing licence-and do not have any exemptions from the military…3 other “fallacies” that some of my “students” are incorrect about….

I live and work in a multi-racial environment and STILL see racism all the time.  Sometimes people of various races work for me, sometimes I work for them, depending on the task at hand—and who has what need.  The CEO, COO and CFO all come from different ethnic and racial backgrounds.

It’s the way things SHOULD be!

Kids don’t care what color their friends are, or what religion. They don’t even have to have a common language. 

They have to be taught to be bigots, to hate, to discriminate on skin color, ethnic background, religion, to make nasty stupid remarks to call people:
niggerkikespicwopwaspbitchwhorepolacklimeyfrogpakichinkwoggookpommie

Cryena said,

“If you’re gonna tell your history girl, you better tell it all, and tell it right.”
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Cryena,

I agree with you 100%.  I don’t know about, you but about myself, I always felt annoyed by people who claimed they have indian blood which was “injected” “maybe” about 200 years ago,
and to “my perception” “maybe” implying that they belong here more than anybody else!!!
I hope “blone” hippy pam didn’t use her “Indian blood” to get a license for a gambling casino on an Indian reservation!!

Did you folks hear what Alan Keyes said, that Obama is a “radical communist” who was not born in the United States, and not only does Keyes not recognize him as a legitimate president but that the army should not obey his orders as Commander in Chief and that he must be stopped before he destroys America.

Sure Keyes is a lunatic blowhard, but still: isn’t this treason? Doesn’t Keyes belong in jail?

This racist, chauvinist shit is very dangerous. These are lies that uninformed people hear and help to spread, but I think these rumors are originally being planted by totally cynical people who are using racism and chauvinism to maintain their own power. If Obama does get assassinated, they will cover it up by hanging it on some racist like James Earl Ray, which will conceal the real perpetrators and their motives.

Obama is doing amazingly great so far. Every time I turn on C-Span, there he is, doing a fantastic job, cutting the finest figure of a president I ever hope to see.

Meanwhile, the hitherto feckless Democratic Congress is virtually howling for Bush Administration blood. Obama doesn’t have to do anything but let it happen. But I fear that when the Cheney gang feel that their exposure is imminent they will launch another big terrorist attack.

Did you folks hear what Alan Keyes said, that Obama is a “radical communist” who was not born in the United States, and not only does Keyes not recognize him as a legitimate president but that the army should not obey his orders as Commander in Chief and that he must be stopped before he destroys America.

Sure Keyes is a lunatic blowhard, but still: isn’t this treason? Doesn’t Keyes belong in jail?

This racist, chauvinist shit is very dangerous. These are lies that uniformed people hear and help to spread, but I think these rumors are originally being planted by totally cynical people who are using racism and chauvinism to maintain their own power. If Obama does get assassinated, they will cover it up by hanging it on some racist like James Earl Ray, which will conceal the real perpetrators and their motives.

Obama is doing amazingly great so far. Every time I turn on C-Span, there he is, doing a fantastic job, cutting the finest figure of a president I ever hope to see.

Meanwhile, the hitherto feckless Democratic Congress is virtually howling for Bush Administration blood. Obama doesn’t have to do anything but let it happen. But I fear that when the Cheney gang feel that their exposure is imminent they will launch another big terrorist attack.

By hippy pam, February 20 at 4:08 pm

Uh….thanks for the post hippy pam. It was directed to me, (about your Indian ancestry? ??) so I appreciate it. I just don’t think I get your point about all the interracial marriage/relationships in your community, or how the babies of these unions have curly golden hair. In fact, I’m pretty familiar with this stuff,  being from a multi-racial/ethnic ancestry myself. So, it sounds like the people in your community (you included) look a whole hell of a lot like my own family, and I’ve been looking at them for 56 years. We never really accomplished the snake neck stuff very well though.

So, since this isn’t new information, and since we aren’t talking about Black Pride on this thread, (though it is Black History Month) what exactly is the point of your response, and apparently to something that I (specifically) posted? I honestly would like to understand your ‘connection’ here.
My OWN post was in reference to a cartoon that depicts the assassination of the current US President, (who happens to be an African American), and the social-psychological stereotype connection between chimps and humans of African genealogy has long been ‘established’.

I connected that to the same social-psychology that would prompt groups of people from Sea to Shining Sea to call for the assassination of Barack Obama as soon as he was elected President. I included the example of how no matter how badly the previous 5 presidents have fucked up, there have NEVER been mass calls for their ASSASSINATIONS, nor have any attempts been made on any of their lives, with the exception of Regan who was attacked by an apolitical mental case.

WHY DO YA THINK THAT MIGHT BE – HIPPY PAM????????????

They might not live in YOUR ‘community’ Hippy Pam, but there is…well, the rest of the world….believe it or not.

And WHY do you suppose that a New York newspaper publication would feel perfectly comfortable in depicting this very same ‘assassination’ actually happening? Have you ever seen such a cartoon of a white chimp president being ASSASSINATED?

Meantime, I’m really sorry about you being a blonde Indian. So is my sister, but she seems to take it in stride. Doesn’t even die the gray out.

Just some side advice since you mentioned it…don’t hold your breath on everybody being the same color anytime soon.

And the next time they ask you where the Indians got their needles and thread,make sure they know we got the booze from the white folks as well,(as a GIFT) and that the conditions imposed on the Native Americans lead them to use the needles for other purposes that have continued the genocide that began 400 years ago with the small pox laden blankets that were also a ‘gift’ from the white folks.

If you’re gonna tell your history girl, you better tell it all, and tell it right.

Bad taste, but consider the readers.

More suitable for Hustler given the provocative nature of the lampoon.

cyrena-In the city where I live MOST White Girls are with Black Men-Most White Men are with Black Women.Most white girls walk the walk and talk the talk[I’m sorry that they say AKS instead of ask and WIDIT rather than with it]-and they do the “snake neck” and “head weave” even better than their Black Sisters-and the majority of the babies are sort of cocoa with brownish gold kinky hair…..Don’t get me wrong…They are adorable….BUT in another 100 years we will all BE ONE COLOR…..No white-No Black-No Red-No Yellow-.
    I do like being a blond NATIVE AMERICAN….when I teach the kids about “how the indians got their beads from the whites”-I’m usually asked about"how the indians got needles and thread”?....My answer?....“We surrounded your wagon trains-killed the people-and took them”......
    Unfortunately-not even the black people will be able to say-with pride-I’m Black and Proud…..there can be no RACIAL PRIDE when you ain’t any race/color…..
    This is about this “cartoon” and the fact that it is an INSULT..And maybe even a THREAT to OUR ELECTED PRESIDENT….
    Please all-read this a couple times…cuz I’m NOT PUTTING ANY RACE DOWN…..At the time I proved my heritage Blacks could already RIDE THE BUS-Native Americans HAD TO WALK…..or get the SH*T beat out of them[this was in Missouri]-we didn’t even get to vote until 1945…...

Louise,
This made me feel like I was in Church somewhere – or having some sort of spiritual experience in my cubicle, which is where such an experience is far more likely to occur anyway.
•  “..And moving one step beyond, we see republican supporters are about the same. Incapable of independent thought. Consumed with pettiness, blind obedience and pointless hate. Stupid, lazy and eager to stay that way, they ask just one thing of their leaders. That they reflect an accurate picture of themselves…”

You PREACH it girl!!

I am so serious! This is just the truth that needs to be ACKNOWLEDGED!! These people are like a cancerous tumor weaved into the fabric of our collective social psychology, and they inflict their poison, overwhelmingly consumed with pettiness (I think it’s the pettiness that drives me the craziest)  and are totally incapable of independent thought, (or just outright lazy) and hate that seems pointless to us, but is born from a jealously for all that they actually KNOW they ‘lack’.
It’s like Dr. Manis writes in his excellent article, “When are WE Going to Get Over It?” -  Republicans, (who are mostly white people, despite the macabre joke of Steele as their new Clubhouse Top Scout) just never have gotten over being ‘demoted to equal status with people of color’.

He wrote the letter, (I think I’ve provided this link before, but for those who are interested, I’ll provide it again) as a result of the nauseating coast-to-coast response in calling for the assassination of Barack Obama just after the Nov. 4th elections. There were in fact groups of sick citizens from Maine to California, voicing these threats of assassination.

Dr. Andrew Manis

When Are WE Going to Get Over It?

“For much of the last forty years, ever since America “fixed” its race problem in the Civ il Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, “When are African Americans finally going to get over it? Now I want to ask:

“When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with skin color?”

He continues…

“Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood.

We white people have controlled political life in the disunited colonies and United States for some 400 years on this continent. Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Even during the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them, yes. Call for their impeachment, perhaps.

But there were no bounties on their heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator was a non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster.

But elect a liberal who happens to be Black and we’re back in the sixties again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we’ve proven what conservatives are always saying—that in America anything is possible, EVEN electing a black man as president.  But instead we now hear that schoolchildren from Maine to California are talking about wanting to “assassinate Obama.”“

TBC

2 of 2

Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, “How long?” How long before we white people realize we can’t make our nation, much less the whole world, look like us? How long until we white people can -once and for all- get over this hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color? How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white skin makes us superior? How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being demoted to the status of equality with non-whites?

How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head of the line merely because of our white skin? How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only conversations?

I believe in free speech, but how long until we white people start making racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners? How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President of the United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do?
The rest is at the link.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-176650

I’m adding my additional 2 cents on this, since I’ve actually devoted a considerable amount of time to studying and trying to understand the phenomena of racism – the CAUSES and the EFFECTS on our social infrastructure, since the interconnectedness with the rest of the infrastructure is what is ultimately manifested in the overall EFFECTS on any given society.  As I continue to do that (a life- long pursuit no doubt) I’ve found the comments on this and a handful of other sites to be extremely revealing of these causes and effects.

At the end of the day, it always comes down to CAPITAL and the POWER associated with it. In a nutshell, the racists are having an incredibly difficult time with the reality of a Black man, (it would probably be worse if it was a black woman) having more intelligence in his little finger than the rest of them combined, but even more than that, they HATE the POWER in his left thumb and forefinger, specifically when there’s an ink pen involved.  Even the dumbest of the dumbest, (and those most proud of their ignorance) show their true colors when there’s money to be fought over.

ALL they had to do was make at least one cop clearly Black and there would be no problem.  Then it would be two cops and a chimp who is nothing more than a chimpanzee.  But it still wouldn’t have been funny.

But since they are both White and the dead chimp is Black, the racist element becomes obvious.

But the NY Post took over the “Daily News, Daily Blues” role 20 odd years ago when Murdoch bought it.

Of course, the connection is to the 14 year old chimp in Stamford, CT, who went crazy (for the first time in his life) and mauled his owner’s friend horribly, whom he had known for many years.  He attacked a cop in his car and the terrified officer shot him several times.  The poor animal then crept back to his den in the house where he died.  Turns out he had been fed Xanax, a psychotropic drug to try to keep him calmer. I don’t see anything funny in this story, either.

Why did we let Murdoch buy up al this media? Are you going to listten to Rush Limbaugh or your own brain?

I , for one, would like to listen to radio talk again—wouldnt you??

Pass the Fairness Doctrine—deport Murdoch for all I care. He is an mf-er. But he has a right to be one.So does Limbaugh—just not on all papers, all radio station, etc!! Let neo-cons bury themselvse.

Austrailians dont have a racist bone in their bodies?? You might want to ask Aboriginal people about that.

They are Euro-Austrailians just as many here are Euro-Ams…

I believe this is the most racist, and by far the most ignorant attempt at humor. This was no cartoon!
There is no reason to think that people would automatically attach this cartoon to the chimp story. The print told us this cartoon was about the stimulus package, which by the way, republicans are afraid of. They know they won’t get any credit for passing it and they hope it dies the same death as the chimp.
In this scenario, the chimp would be the republican obstructer.

If not motivated by racial tendencies, then an extreme lack of good judgment by the Post. Either way, their pathetic response “cloaked” as an apology is simply ridiculous. The Post should forthwith respond with a “real” apology; that as well shows that they understand that this type of visual imaging, and what it “clearly” shows it is trying to say…..should not and will not be tolerated in our country. Their lack of understanding the vileness of what the cartoon “clearly” is saying, and allowing the cartoon be printed is simply despicable.

To mlb:  Surely you must remember that Cat Stevens is not an American, but was born in England and went home to become a Muslim. Why he was barred from entering the US is anyone’s guess. 
I find it offensive that anyone can be categorized by religion or sect of any religion.
To Mike: If it wasn’t for people like the Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson, we would not be aware of the mounting and growing racist and cynical attitude that white America has towards those of colour.
We are not even touching the core of the feelings of racism and ridiculous attitudes that are embodied by this cartoon.  That anyone would find this cartoon, a
joke or funny shows that we as Americans have a long way to go in the matters of racial equality and parity.
I am ashamed that the NY Post, a paper owned wholly by Media Corp., a company wholly owned by Rupert Murdoch, should allow such nonsense to be printed and released for public perusal. Most Australians that I have encountered and know on a personal level,
have not a racist bone in their body, but Rupert, far
from the madding crowd, is and always will be racist and a corporatist. There is no such thing as a liberal working for the Media Corp. and if there was such a person, they would be found out and fired.
Please do the right thing and not only boycott the New York Post but all of Rupert’s media outlets. 
We the people, can surely muster the masses to cause him enough pain and anguish, so much so that he ceases to hold to the neo-conservative viewpoint.

And the flaming goes on and on, but intelligence and it’s application are nowhere to be found. All there is, are opinions and, like assholes; everybody has one. It’s a free speech issue and the N.Y. Post is very much in danger of being blasted out of existence by the jingoistic rhetoric of the emotionally immature and intellectually challenged. I would suggest America is at the tipping point for a major loss of free speech rights. Curb you’re selfish investments/opinions; step back, calm down, and look at this! We must be allowed to express our views, no matter how objectionable and offensive to our personal values. Vivila differance!

louise wrote:
“Carefull td3, that kind of sweeping statement of policy only points out how little you understand anybody’s policy, left, right or middle!”
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louise,

I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican and I understand politics both domestic and foereign
much more than you do. You are nothing but a partisan hack who is blinded by wishful thinking,  “hope” and in denial refusing to face the glaring facts.
Why don’t you confine you writings to “buzzflash”
where you will have a lot of admirers of the corporate DLC Democrats.
In TD you will always be clashing with non partisan independe thinkers.

Correct you are, CJ, (re: your post of 7:36 pm), Michael Wolff’s precious rationalizations made me reach for the mute button. 

And your litany of grievances that this government and its media are utterly loathe to address simply underscores the vapidity of pundits such as Wolff.

Note to Democrats—why the Fairness Doctrine DOES matter! (I’d also like to turn on radio and hear something besides NPR, Limbasugh or canned muzac, also) Amy Goodman, 2005

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0403-25.htm

“The attack on the existing media-ownership rules came from predictable corners: Both Viacom, which owns CBS, and Rupert Murdoch’s conservative FOX News Channel were already in violation, and would be forced to sell off stations to come into compliance with the 35-percent limit. The rule change would enable Murdoch to control the airwaves of entire cities. That would be fine with Bush and the Powells, since Murdoch is one of their biggest boosters.”

Murdoch declared in February 2003 that George W. Bush “will either go down in history as a very great president or he’ll crash and burn. I’m optimistic it will be the former by a ratio of 2 to 1.” Murdoch leaves nothing to chance: His FOX News Channel is doing all it can to help.

“The media organizations in charge of vetting our images of war have become fewer and bigger — and the news more uniform and gung ho. Six huge corporations now control the major U.S. media: Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation (FOX, HarperCollins, New York Post, Weekly Standard, TV Guide, DirecTV and 35 TV stations), General Electric (NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, Telemundo, Bravo, Universal Pictures and 28 TV stations), Time Warner (AOL, CNN, Warner Bros., Time and its 130-plus magazines), Disney (ABC, Disney Channel, ESPN, 10 TV and 72 radio stations), Viacom (CBS, MTV, Nickelodeon, Paramount Pictures, Simon & Schuster and 183 U.S. radio stations), and Bertelsmann (Random House and its more than 120 imprints worldwide, and Gruner + Jahr and its more than 110 magazines in 10 countries).

As Phil Donahue, the former host of MSNBC’s highest-rated show who was fired by the network in February 2003 for bringing on anti-war voices, told “Democracy Now!,” “We have more [TV] outlets now, but most of them sell the Bowflex machine. The rest of them are Jesus and jewelry. There really isn’t diversity in the media anymore. Dissent? Forget about it.”

The lack of diversity in ownership helps explain the lack of diversity in the news. When George W. Bush first came to power, the media watchers Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) looked at who appeared on the evening news on ABC, CBS and NBC. Ninety-two percent of all U.S. sources interviewed were white, 85 percent were male, and where party affiliation was identifiable, 75 percent were Republican

NOw, I am not one to blame just GOP , especially when the Dems have had control of both houses since 2006. I know most here might disagree with that. But, there was a time when you didnt have to search around for unbiased media.

They took most of the money for broadband to unserved areas out of the Stimulus Bill.

We need the Fairness Doctrine.

Casey,

It doesn’t take an open mind to understand the intent of this “cartoon” But it definately takes a CLOSED mind to instruct rational people to ignore the creeps who FEED on this kind of stuff.

How do you think this country got into such a mess in the first place? By IGNORING the carefully crafted plan deliberately carried out by Republicans to destroy all things good, for the sole purpose of controlling us, our military, our money and the world! Kinda like Plankton, and just as stupid and blind dumb, and incapapable of understanding the consequence of their greed and lust! They are getting stepped on now, and they don’t know what to do. They don’t understand what their years of Republican non-leadership has created, so they sink even lower into the muck we have finally come to recognize as Republican!

truedigger3,

“BTW, I dont like both Obama and Bush. They followed and are following exactly the same policies carrying water for Wall Street and big business.”

Carefull td3, that kind of sweeping statement of policy only points out how little you understand anybody’s policy, left, right or middle! And please don’t insult our intelligence by saying we shouldn’t react to the association of some living thing shot dead in the street by some really dumb guy, mentioning the stimulus in the same frame as anything other than what it is! Particularly when you and so many like you have been so busy condemning Obama and clearly labeling the stimulus bill as his!

You may not get it, but there lots of folks out here who know how crazy some of these repubs are!

elsos,

“Boy, you sure told them!!  Did you get that all of your little chest now?”

Actually no. There isn’t enough room in one of these comments to list all the personality disorders that describe so-called conservative Republicans and the damage they do! Granted there may be a small handfull of honest conservatives in Republican leadership, but unfortunately they haven’t got the guts to call their fellows out! And there are a lot of real, honest conservatives who use to carry the repub card. We know that because they all voted for Obama. And they all want their party back! And I’ve been told I’m fun to be around.  All I need do is repeat something a republicans done! Gets a laugh every time!

James Schiely,

I freely admit I’ve called GW a dim-wit, a kindergartner, a war-monger, a liar, a hypocrit, the worst president ever, a mama’s boy,  an incompetent, asleep at the wheel, unable to articulate a cognitive thought, and funnier by accident than the best comic by design! Although I noted when he strode across that deck with his gonads in a vice, he WALKED more like the first chimp in space than an experienced fighter pilot, who would have known how to undo the clips! But, I have NEVER called him a Chimp. I can think of a whole bunch of life-forms that might better describe him, like an amoeba.

And I have never, ever, EVER suggested he should be splayed in the road, shot dead by a gun!! That’s the difference!

Maybe that’s hard for all you Obama haters to understand,  but laughing over the suggestion that anyone, whether Pelosi or Obama should be shot down is inexcusable, tasteless, stupid and dangerous! Especially when, as has been pointed out here, the dunces will be the ones reading and laughing at that crap!

Why in the name of anything even resembling intelligence do you all defend it?

Oh, there’s a clue!

(Barely) resembling intelligence!

Did anyone else find the fact that this cartoon depicts cops as the “shooters” bizarre…?

Now I know for a fact that there are GOOD COPS, and we need to support them.  However, I ALSO know for a fact that there are bad cops.  So what was the depiction of the “cop shooting the chimp” alluding to?

Re: Michael

Your comment: “I’ve been called cracker, whitey, and lots worse than you, and I’m NOT crying about it.  Get over it!  And get on with your own life - instead of telling other people how to feel!

I am moved to ask WHY…you are being called “lots of worse things”?  Could it be quite probable that there’s a reason for that…?

Re: Verne Arnold

Your comment: “One must step back from the emotionalism and ask; just what is free speech and do we really believe in maintaining this right. From the rhetoric in the news and in the blogisphere it would appear free speech is once again in danger.

I maintain that there is a difference between FREE SPEECH and HATE SPEECH.  Consider this:  Does a point exist wherein it would be possible to assertain a difference between debating, arguing or being verbally abusive…?  I think there is, yet I would also maintain that YELLING could take place in all three, but the premise would be very different.

why would anyone subscribe to the NY post in the first place?

Correction:

Per Wolff, Murdock “is not happy with this,” somewhat different from “offended.” Sadly.

Offensive is, or would be, as follows:

Big media’s ongoing propagandizing—in the interest of official U.S. policy—re Palestine-Israel;

Israel’s ongoing policy of apartheid;

Ongoing transfer of wealth from America’s lower classes to elite plutocrats, by a variety of means, including some (or all?) of the following:

Healthcare “arrangement” that not only exploits payers-in while still relatively healthy and then denies coverage when illness happens, and which otherwise excludes those with pre-existing conditions;

Banking outfits allowed to charge usurious rates of interest on credit-card and other longer-term loans;

Same banks and other big bizes operating unrestrained/unregulated from holes in the planet wall such as the Cayman Islands;

(Ongoing waste of the entire planet—holes and not holes);

Petite bourgeois bizes, whereby the yet-more-petty-minded pray that in time they will attain big-biz bigness, while paying labor minimum wage (if small business is where more jobs are created than anywhere else, small business is also site of greatest exploitation of labor;

“Right” to work (HAHAHA; got to love that bit of legalese as a particularly noteworthy instance of Orwellian double-speak);

“Collateral damage” in a variety of forms, up to and including murder excused as regrettable result of “war” that was “necessary” in order to save the empire, and/or to intervening in other people’s business (the latter not really, pending the former);

Nukes, along with “realist” nonsense that justifies their continuance by and in big-deal nations, and then proliferation in small-deal nations as the latter rush to develope only means by which seriously to deter big-deal nations);

Criminalization of most everything nonconformist, in the name of upholding “American values”—actually as means by which aforementioned elite are able to manage societies/cultures;

Regressive taxation (sales taxes) on what’s not yet criminal (There was a time when people took to streets, even threw bastards out when leaders offended by this thievery);

System of education that by appearances seeks with due deliberation to dumb-down;

Etc., etc. Any could on at length.

Not to forget “fake outrage” that David Sirota wrote about just the other day here at TD.

Michael Wolff (of Vanity Faire and of recent book re Murdock) noted on Olbermann this evening that Rupert too is offended by cartoon.

Keith didn’t ask Wolff if Rupert is offended by anything else. Presumably not, since as Wolff kept telling Ian Masters a couple weeks back, Rupert is finally just a “newspaper man.”

Ain’t that cuter ‘n hell? Seriously, folks.

The N.Y. Post has certainly made a complete Jackass of itself with the publication of an amazingly insensitive(possibly racist), tasteless cartoon. The reaction to it is almost worse and definitely over the top. One must step back from the emotionalism and ask; just what is free speech and do we really believe in maintaining this right. From the rhetoric in the news and in the blogisphere it would appear free speech is once again in danger.

http://whatintheworld-icarus.blogspot.com/

Al Sharpton has issued a fatwah.

re: mlb

I hate to give you the bad news, but Rupert IS an American citizen. He became one in order to obtain the necessary documentation to be owner of a cross-platform media empire.

The stimulus pachage is several thousands pages long
and addresses hundreds of items.  Definitely it was
not written by Obama personally and I am sure Obama
does not know anyting about many items in the package.
What the cartoonist means is that the package is so
illogical and scattered brained that only a chimp wrote it.
And I remember that I saw many cartoons and read
many writings depicting and calling Bush a chimp
or a monkey.
The country is going through really tough times,
So, lighten up people and leave posturing and theatrics behind.  This is not the right time for it.
BTW, I dont like both Obama and Bush. They followed and are following exactly the same policies carrying water for Wall Street and big business.

Cancel my subscription to the New York Post!

(wait…I don’t have one…never did.)

Did you know that Aaron Burr, the third Vice President and almost-President in 1800 founded that New York Post?  He needed a mouthpiece for his early Tammany Hall politics in New York.

He also killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel in 1804.

Bravo NYTIMES.  The cartoonist hit a home run.  The job of the media is to be independent (though independent the NY Times is not) and critical.  Sometimes this is controversial and alarming.  The mainstream media in this country has devolved into an entity with partisan separatist agenda.  Divide the people, keep them occupied while we (the puppet masters) carry on with the internationalist prerogative.

The fact that the Post and its cartoonist not only brushed off, but indignantly struck back and attacked those who were offended by this editorially “topical” cartoon says something about newspaper sanctioned racisim and political violence vis a vis a police state being A-OK. No problem here; go away; and don’t let the door…..

Rupert Murdock, the Post page 6 editor, and the cartoonist perpetuated a repugnant racist stereotype, and joked about a political killing in the guise of a witty “on location news flash.”

But it was a debased form of wit that dreampt up this benighted piece of crap, a morally and intellectually bankrupt newspaper editor that ran it, and a predatory, capitalist, planetary mass media Emperor with no clothes who published it.

I can’t believe how naive the posters here are. Sometimes double standards exist for a reason. Yes, you can get away with calling GWB a dumb monkey, but if you call Obama that, it is packed with centuries of hatred and bigotry. Even today, as a young guy living in the liberal Bay Area, I still hear the words “monkey” and “nigger” thrown around all the time.

There’s a host of insults to choose from that don’t have a historically racial tone to them. I think the Post did this on purpose…we are all talking about it now, and I’m sure they will sell more issues than usual…

Albina baboon, Rupert Murdoch, no doubt schields himself behind the caracature of the two, brain-dead, corporate thugs with guns.

Suck on this bannana Rupert!

It is an insensitive cartoon, though it is rumored that the White House did place an unusually large order for bananas!!!!!

At least the woman whose eyes were ripped out of their sockets by the chimp won’t be able to see this ‘cartoon.’

To Louise’s description of Republicans, I must add ‘cruel.’

This message was approved by Joseph Goebbels.

To me, The NY Post has always been a sort of status symbol.  You see people reading the Post on the train and the message wouldn’t be clearer if they were all wearing 2’ tall dunce caps and had the word “DUH” tattooed on their foreheads. (Oh, but the Post has a great sports section!)

But hey, think of poor Rupert’s feelings!  He knows that the capitalists have f’d themselves and the world economy something fierce and that it’s going to be bad for his empire, so he’s pissed!  And what if Obama’s FCC puts the brakes on media consolidation?  Murdoch will see it as an act of war.  This cartoon is a preemptive strike.

Murdoch is not an American. There’s no vestigial sense of patriotism holding him back.  Then again, not that he gives a crap about Australia either, since after all, countries exist only to serve corporate interests.

Murdoch calls himself a “radical conservative.”  What characteristic is there that better defines a “radical” on the Left or Right than the use of violence to achieve political ends?  If someone had published a similar cartoon about Bush, they’d probably have been prosecuted as terrorists under the PATRIOT Act.

Maybe this administration should use one of the techniques Bush used:  If Cat Stevens, an American who has never caused any harm can be barred from entering the United States, then surely Rupert Murdoch, a foreigner and easily one of the 10 most despicable and dangerous people on the planet can be barred as well.

The neo-tards and their cronies have got us into the mess our country is now,the stealing of monies that the republicans did during the Bush admin.,the tax breaks for the rich which was suppose to “stimulate"the economy,the only thing it stimulated was the gag reflex of most Americans who lost their jobs,homes.for the most Americans are good hardworking people who love God their country and their famiies.Americans should be glad they have a smart and kind person like Pres Obama to help out our nation in its time of need (seeing he inherited a trillion dollar unnessary deficit from Bush).The racism that minorities have long suffered is not gone Because we have a black president(check non-funny NY cartoon) and it is a direct cause of our present problems no matter what the reichwingers say,Poverty +racism =rises in crime and a hard road for everyone.The NY post cartoon is just a regurgitation of racist images that some white(and “some"latinos hold against their fellow minrities)against their fellow americans.I was not surprised that they would go on the offensive(using any and all distractions) to prevent Obama’s administration from investigating the thefts of Billions of dollars of taxpayers money during the Bush admin.(where is the indignant uproar from whites about that?)Yet they want to criticize and lampoon Obama?what a joke! Blacks have fought bravely in every war just to be disrespected,stereotyped and profiled, they invented many inventions that we could not imagine living without.Yet some morons continue to try to make themselves feel better by putting minorities down (in a racist way)About the chimp cartoon the reality is how can people who thought it was okay to enslave their fellow man be allowed to have animals anyway?I always wondered if whites obsession with animals(especially wild ones) was a replacement for when they had slaves?How could a race of people who abused,raped lynched their innocent fellow man be expected to treat a animal decently anyway?.The poor chimp was probably abused (not funny but true,Xanax?)The residual superiority act that some Caucasians put on is beggining to wear thin ,they ruined the country’s economy ( but blame someone else when they were running things),they say blacks play the race card when they complain about the bad lives and treatment many have been forced to endure yet they themselves have been playing the race card for 4oo years against blacks and using the divide and conquer theory and wish other minorities are ignorant enough to be their lapdogs against others.The NY times says that the racist cartoons mocks the stimulus attempt of Washington.(yeah right) They(rightwingers,racists) marched Lockstep with every idiotic decision Bush made that led to this terrible recession/depression.I know all caucasian are not racists just like not all blacks can dance,sing like Jennifer Hudson or rap(stereotypes pushed by the media)People oughta wise up and realize if we dont learn to live together we will definitely perish alone as fools.

RE_PUKES strike again…..This is no cartoon!!!!!This IS NOT AMUSING….This IS INSULTING to the ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.-........of course-it is about what we can expect from this Re_Puke_Lickin Rag!!!!!!

The New York Post has always been a paper that thrives on the controversial and sensational. However, this cartoon, political though it is, goes way over the line of decency and decorum.
Rupert Murdoch, is by far the worst owner of a media conglomerate that has ever come down the pike. He has made it clear, that he does not and will not support liberals and their causes.
Though I wholeheartedly agree with the 1st Amendment, Rupert Murdoch’s staff at this paper, are by far the worst offenders of the sensibilities of the people.
We all know now where the staff and editorial portions of the New York Post stand, they are the most conservative of the neo-conservative papers and without doubt, I would if I lived in the New York area, not be buying that paper ever again,
I believe in freedom of the press and the freedom of speech to the nth degree, and I also believe in my right not to have truck with a paper that can equate our president with a chimpanzee and the act of shooting such a majestic animal.

Can’t you be arrested for suggesting the assasination of a president? so arrest the ‘artist’, the Editors and Murdock.
Granted the Chimpanzee is Racist, but when the hack who drew it said it more depicted Pelosi, that was not only sexist, but justified Violence against women. Strike 3!
and for Us who are animal advocates, the real episode was heartbreaking. We found no humor in the death of an animal who should not have been loose in CT to begin with! Who was respsonible for this animal?
Obviously Murdock and his employees have no Concept of American values, when it comes to our President, our Minorities or our Animal population. Aussies may find humor in this unfortunate event, but WE DO NOT! We appparently have a stronger respect for All life. Shall we make up a Cartoon depicting the fires in Marysville? Would Murdock find that funny, with almost 200 peoples lives lost, not to mention the wildlife and ‘outback’???
It’s time Murdock starts kissing some American Ass- otherwise we will send him packing for a long Outback ‘walk about’!

Col Allan J/A!

I’ll certainly concede that the cartoon is in very, very poor taste.  Chimpanzees everywhere should be outraged.  *

But when you start prosecuting the purveyors of political speech for “hate crimes,” you open the door for being prosecuted yourself, for doing the same.

*  Not because of his race, but because of his views and his actions.

Every now and again someone questions my strong opinions about the Republican party. Then something like this comes along and nobody questions.

The Republican party is a collection of miscreants, misfits and malcontents. Retards and delinquents who absent sense, ambition or honest ability become politicians with an R.

And moving one step beyond, we see republican supporters are about the same. Incapable of independent thought. Consumed with pettiness, blind obedience and pointless hate. Stupid, lazy and eager to stay that way, they ask just one thing of their leaders. That they reflect an accurate picture of themselves.

They have their own peculiar morality, often characterized by a lack of integrity. They see crime as something only poor people do, mindless of their own poverty. They see God as someone who owes them and Gods spokesman as someone smarter than God. They vote for the candidate who makes the least sense and boast proudly about their own petty contribution to the elevation of that nonsense. They embrace lies and glorify hate and violence, and unless absolutely necessary pay no attention to what they soak up and repeat as fact. But then even if attention is paid, they cant remember what happened yesterday and don’t know how to understand what might happen tomorrow, so attention matters little.

The most excellent example is what is happening right now in California. Caving to the pressure of “talk” radio, their Republican leaders refuse to support their Republican governor and California will begin laying people off by the thousands. And when it’s one of them, they wont remember, how to remember there is a connection between their vitriolic hate and their vanishing job.

They are like a synthetic sponge. Able to soak up huge quantities of anything pored on them and able to shrink in size quickly, once the poring stops. Leaving behind the sour smell of something moldy and distasteful.

They think they are funny and clever, never realizing if someone laughs it’s not with them, it’s at them. Not for their clever wit and humor, but because sometimes it’s hard to not laugh at such blatant stupidity.

But every now and again, their stupidity steps beyond the laughable and becomes just plain dangerous. This is such a case.

Unfortunately it’s not against the law to be stupid. And I guess that’s a good thing, because occasionally we all do stupid things. But the republicans have elevated stupidity to an art form, if you want to call this badly drawn so-called cartoon art. What it really is, is a reflection of how low a desperate to be accepted “artist” will go, to get published.

But scarier than that is the “artists” inability to understand his creation is racist and even worse, a veiled call to assassination! And even scarier than that is the fact that he, his editor and his publisher understand their readers will think this is funny!

And that says it all.

The Republican party bares no resemblence to anything one might mistake as leadership. And the Republican leaders prove that every day. Afraid to think the “right” thing, they cave to the anger and hate they worked so hard to create. They pored fuel in the train then put a box on the throttle and prowdly stepped up front. Now they run ahead of the train trying to look like they control it, and they cant even control the spittle running out of their own mouths. The one bright spot in all of this is the train will overtake them any day now and they’ll all fall down! The downside is, as they fall they’ll pull as many of us under the train with them as they possibly can!

So much for Conservative respect for life huh?

Whoops…! I see my error.  This comment: “When the state of Wisconsin did a comprehensive examination of racism by police in the largest communities in Wisconsin….guess who came out “on top”?  Yep, that’d be Green Bay, WI.”

This should read: When “a comprehensive examination of the state of Wisconsin was done concerning racism by police in Wisconsin’s largest communuities” ... guess who came out “on top”?  Yep, that’d be Green Bay, WI.

Sorry about that.  Doesn’t really change the message though (hey…you can at least give me that).  LOL

Then there was the study about cesearean sections in Green Bay, strangely enough DURING the study, the rate went from 15% to 5%.....go figure….

Where I live ALL the racists call black people chimps, yes….they absolutely do and have since my “induction” into this communtity back in the ninth grade.

I would DEFINITELY see this as a hate crime against Obama and take that very seriously.  I think a thorough investigation into the dealings of the NY Post be instituted.  They just put up a red flag, very serious.

It’s one of the more common terms they use instead of saying “black” because they view the term “black” as “buying in” to a measure of dignity for the “dirty niggers” or “chimps”.

When the state of Wisconsin did a comprehensive examination of racism by police in the largest communities in Wisconsin….guess who came out “on top”?  Yep, that’d be Green Bay, WI.

Not to worry though black folks, they also hate the Hmongs, Mexicans and women (bimbos excepted… of course.

re KDelphi’s Post: “I don’t get it, its not funny”

Understandable, if it were a film it would be called a B rated flop. Only a contortionist could connect the “stimulus” with the chimp attack story.

Only racists will think this horrible cartoon is okay.If your family member was killed by police let’s see if you think it’s the “truth”,the obvious racial connotations are obvious.Since Obama has become president their hatred of a african american male is more the their love for their country ,dont they realize if Obama fails we all fail ,no matter what color!Slaves built the white house it’s about time a brother went in the front door since most previous caucasian occupants have succeeded in going out the “back door”,give Pres.Obama a chance instead of mock executions in cartoons and then rationalizing the racist innuendos.

This cartoon is truth. The bill was written by a bunch of people just taking orders - they are a bunch of chimps - lobbyists and the senators and congresspeople that blindly vote yes on something they’ve never read.

I see this in no way a reference to the POTUS. He didn’t write a thing.

The stimulus bill will only stimulate one thing - inflation. Get out of your FRNs while you can.

Want to learn why the chimp went crazy? Hint: It’s the same reason all the school shooting have occurred - psychotropic drugs.

BTW, the advertisement on this page is an oxymoron Clean Coal. LOL!

The GOP should just be honest, and rename it the KKK Party.

It’s a sick and twisted little bit of nonsense. It deserves the canker sore treatment: Just ignore it and it fades away !

Well, here we are; partisan tripe meant to take the spot light from the facts regarding important issues of the recession and President Obamas stimulus effort. Of course, the cartoon was aimed at President Obama and of course there are inferences comparing him to a beserk chimp but this is typical of partisan politicians and their supporters. Rush Limbaugh must love this and the left leaning democrats fall for the bait as always.
“If you can’t dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle with your bull—-t!”

Crystal Clear, you are coming in very foggy on that one…what do you mean?

Why show a CHIMP if it was written by “CHUMPS”??

Well, hell, I dont understand the entire premise. We should stop giving it attention, I guess…

I dont “get it”, its not funny, and, YES its racist!!Gawd! Unless there is some point to it I just dont get at all…in any case, its fricking ridiculous.

The GOP (and NYDN) is truly, honestly losing its fricking collec tive mind—like they had one to begin with…