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Obama Pushes to Sell an Effective StimulusPosted on Feb 9, 2009
He has his opponents in Congress, but President Barack Obama is stressing the need to settle the stimulus issue—and fast. On Monday, in his first major news conference since assuming office, Obama warned of economic troubles ahead and presented the stimulus package as a possible way out.
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By Blackspeare, February 11, 2009 at 8:14 am Link to this comment
My take on Obama’s stimulus plan is that it’s a big “package” even for a Black man!!!
Report thisBy jeff, February 10, 2009 at 10:12 am Link to this comment
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Not sure how much this plan can help, but I am optimistic and I trust current govt. Anyway this is my opinion, in the mean time, I just came across a very helpful website on the current economic downturn and employment: http://www.recessioninfocenter.com
Report thisBy AQ, February 10, 2009 at 10:12 am Link to this comment
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WOW!! GEITHNER IS A MORON> WAY TO COME OUT AND BLOW UP THE DOW 300 PTS. THEY NEED TO PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER AND MAKE IT FINAL. ALL THIS BACK AND FORTH WITH NO CLARITY IS GETTING RIDICULOUS. IF THEY DONT HAVE ANYTHING TOGETHER YET THEY NEED TO KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AND STOP HYPING SHIT THATS NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!
Report thisBy Ed Harges, February 10, 2009 at 9:42 am Link to this comment
Jason writes:
“Pelosi and Reid should both be canned for their performance here. They pushed a bad bill loaded with many controversies. Blame resides with them and only them. “
Um, Jason, the worst things in the bill are the modifications made by Senate Republicans. Pelosi’s original is a much better bill/
For example, the Republicans have loaded it up with tax cuts for the middle class and better-off, which is unstimulative because in these times, where people fear job loss, upper-income people will save the money rather than spend it - resulting in zero stimulus.
In contrast, the “welfare” spending that can be “blamed” on the Democrats is the most stimulative of all.
See this article:
But we needn’t rely on logic and common sense to know that welfare spending is stimulative; economists study these things. One such economist is Mark Zandi of Moody’s Economy.com, who served as an adviser to John McCain’s presidential campaign. Zandi has produced a handy chart showing how much a variety of spending increases and tax cuts would stimulate the economy. According to Zandi, a dollar spent on increasing unemployment benefits yields $1.64 in increased gross domestic product, and a dollar spent on food stamps yields $1.73 in GDP.
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20090209_tv_news_makes_tv_look_bad/
Report thisBy Jason!!, February 10, 2009 at 9:25 am Link to this comment
That’s funny Ed. I lost confidence in Obama after his speech. He seemed to be stuck in campaign mode, struggled with answers and rambled. Add to this the political bickering, and street talk, he just seemed out of place. It’s Not the Presidential fortitude I had hoped for. *sigh*
Look. None of us should be so quick to rush Pelosi’s bill through. There is too much unknown about it and I do not think that the Democratic Leadership and White House are being very honest about what is in it. No one here can say one way or the other because full details have not been examined.
I am not ready to jump off a cliff here. There are many ways to go about it and even Obama concedes that this bill is being used as an express way for other initiatives that have nothing to do with stimulus.
Pelosi and Reid should both be canned for their performance here. They pushed a bad bill loaded with many controversies. Blame resides with them and only them. If they had the nation’s interest, we would not be where we are and much of the nonsense would not have made it in to begin with. Instead, they want to play politics and party vs. party.
Every member of congress is elected to represent the voice of their constituents. Who the hell are they to say X member does not get a voice because of his party affiliation. That is NOT a democracy!
My vote is not restricted to party lines and Pelosi should not infer that it is just because Obama was elected.
Report thisBy Tim Kelly, February 10, 2009 at 8:13 am Link to this comment
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Did anyone else think that Obama talked too much and that perhaps this is driven by fear from having the full picture?
Report thisBy Ed Harges, February 10, 2009 at 7:08 am Link to this comment
I’ll tell you what was the main, underlying message I took away from this press conference.
No, he didn’t persuade me that this stimulus will necessarily work as hoped, or that all of the misgivings about it are mistaken.
But what I saw that reassured me was that Obama is smart, responsible, flexible, and adept enough to change course if that’s what’s needed. He didn’t give us this mindlessly stubborn G. W. Bush certitude, which always left you with the frightening feeling that he was just going to drive us over a cliff and never, ever, revisit a decision. GWB was just plain peevish and stupid; he found it annoying to have to think about things and explain things on a daily basis. That was scary and led to disaster after disaster.
Obama is not just going to say, “I’m tired of thinking about this because it’s too hard and now I don’t care what happens — I’m going to work out at the gym and then I’m going to bed early and to hell with you.”
Report thisBy tp, February 10, 2009 at 6:52 am Link to this comment
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I agree that a stimulus is needed. But not with the TARP bailout included. We need to nationalize the banks instead of giving away money with no strings attached. The feds should be owned by the Government as the name suggests. Then we should adjust the value of our over priced real estate so that all Americans could look to the future with a dream. Those mortgages need to be reevaluated then negotiated back to the owners at a much reduced price affordable for the average American workers - which also means the average workers need a substantial raise and that would not be at the expense of the Company they work for at first but it should be part of the stimulus. The playing fields need to be leveled for all American dreamers. We need a stimulus for education, health, and welfare which should be a permanent part of our social system in the first place. Capitalist greed should be regulated then restored only after these basic human needs and rights are restored. We also need to work on regulating our defense system. Our military complex is like another country with whom we the people are considered part of the axis of evil and we are kept in the darkness in its shadows of secret behavior instead of it being our servant. We must stop military secrecy and waste. Regulating security companies like Black Water would be another step and making them accountable for their lawless attitudes. A social society is a good society. In short we need to start thinking about our neighbors instead of being so greedy. Our neighbors include the countries we take advantage of with our FTA’s. All of this is pertinent to our recovery including holding those responsible that got us into this depression - namely George Bush & Dick Cheney.
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By RdV, February 10, 2009 at 6:36 am Link to this comment
After the experience of the Great Depression, it is understandable why they would hustle to save the banks- but just because they can’t talk openly about it in an effort not to jeopardize confidence (a run on the banks)these elitist Wall street crooks should be reminded that they are lucky to still have a job—much less raking in the bailout bonuses on the peoples’ dime.
‘“Generally speaking, I’m more interested in looking forward than I am in looking backwards,” Obama said.’
The problem with this is that it is necessary as part of being accountable and insuring an honorable, responsible government for the future that there is recognition of past crimes in order to chart a new course. Sweeping it under the rug leaves a festering wound.
Deregulated free market ideology is like religious doctrine—it still gets preached long after the failure of doctrine has been revealed as bankrupt policy.
Report thisBy Paolo, February 10, 2009 at 6:02 am Link to this comment
A libertarian view—
The idea of politicians (Democrat or Republican—makes no difference) curing the economy is like liquor store owners curing a drunk by selling him more alcohol.
Folks, lest we forget—these are the nitwits who mucked up everything. Now, I know some of you loyal Democrats will say it makes a huge difference which political party is in power. Trust me—it makes no difference whatsoever.
Excessive “stimulus” (that is, easy credit and loose monetary policies) are what created the problem. Doing more of the same is not going to solve the problem. Again, we’re just giving more whiskey to the drunk to make him feel better, temporarily.
If you continue giving whiskey to the drunk, you eventually kill him. In like manner, if you keep giving false “stimulus” to the economy, you eventually kill the economy.
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