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Halt! Who Goes There? Well, Not AidPosted on Feb 6, 2009
Be it a political gamble or a mix-up of epic proportions, Hamas is being accused of stealing humanitarian aid from U.N. trucks in the Gaza Strip. Due to the thefts, officials say, aid has stopped flowing into the battle-torn territory, where half the population depends on the U.N. shipments for food.
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By mjt01, February 8, 2009 at 12:28 pm Link to this comment
Like it or not, Hamas is in control of the lawfully elected government of Palestine. One should also note that since it has been elected, Hamas has done much to stop violence against Israelis. Israel has not done the same. Israeli splinter groups, as well as Israel, continue to conduct the overwhelming number of crimes against civillians that occur in this area. For another view of the actions of Hamas see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfFMZ7Y-s_c
Which has an Israeli official admitting there were no Hamas rockets fired against southern Israel for four months prior to the Gaza invasion. And that the total number of rockets were reduced by over 95%. These good faith actions were not justifications for what Israel did.
Report thisBy Louise, February 8, 2009 at 7:54 am Link to this comment
“Hamas itself has given very limited financial assistance to some of the thousands of Gazans whose homes were destroyed in the Israeli offensive.”
“The perception of many in the territory is that the group is only helping its own supporters, he adds.”
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Once again we have a clear example of double-speak. “The perception of many” is code for the Israelis in control, who insist the aid was taken to help Hamas supporters.
Well, hasn’t Israel been telling us the reason they “shock and awed” Gaza, their civilians and children, was because they are ALL Hamas supporters?
If they are ALL Hamas supporters is it not reasonable to assume they are ALL hungry, and Hamas will help them all?
Or if as is implied, the Gazan’s are the victims of Hamas, why does Israel indiscriminately target civilians and children in Gaza?
Israel cant have it both ways!
As to the UN, seems to me if they really cared about all those HUNGRY, INJURED and DESPARATE civilians and children in Gaza, they would do away with the STUPID principle of not negotiating with Hamas!
But then the same can be said about the US, right?
Hamas has become a word used to “justify” the murder of innocent Palestinians. We expect little else from Israel.
What’s the excuse for the rest of so-called civilised society?
Report thisBy diamond, February 8, 2009 at 4:34 am Link to this comment
All lies nefesh. I’ve seen the footage of burned civilians and children. What part of this don’t you understand? These people are trapped. They have nowhere to go. They leave their houses and go to someone else’s house and then that house is hit. These people in Gaza have nowhere to go to escape the shells, the phosphorous and the death squads with their M16’s at the ready to gun those pesky children down. I’ve seen the little bodies in jeans and t-shirts being hastily shoved into drawers in the hospital mortuary before the medical staff rush back to deal with the injured and those still dying. IDF soldiers told one family group to run and one of the Palestinian women said ‘Where should we run?’ and they said ‘Just run’. They ran and the IDF opened fire. They ended up in another building and the IDF stood guard for four days and wouldn’t let the Red Cross in. When the Red Cross finally got in they found rooms of dead bodies and children so weak from hunger and dehydration they couldn’t stand. Before they ran the IDF told the young Palestinian men to undress. More exciting targets, I suppose. Is your flesh crawling yet? I also saw an Israeli journalist, Gideon Levy, listing off on his fingers the long, long, list of Israeli war crimes in Gaza: for example shooting at ambulances, shelling heavily populated civilian areas, dropping white phosphorous bombs on civilians, allowing wounded civilians to die. He said that 1300 Palestinians have died for nothing and he explained that every time Israel tries to manipulate Palestinian governments it ends in disaster - for Israel - and that an agreement could have been reached with Hamas, a trade for ending rocket fire for the lifting of the cruel and barbaric blockade of Gaza, a siege that has now gone on for two years. And now you stand on the brink of re-electing Netanyahu a man who says the only cure for the rockets is to bring Hamas down. Stand by for barbarity not yet seen because Netanyahu is an absolute bastard with all the humanity and political intelligence of a cluster bomb.
Report thisBy Russian Paul, February 7, 2009 at 6:16 pm Link to this comment
Nefesh - One cherry picked article cannot counter the facts on the ground. Countless doctors have described the injuries of white phosphorus that they have never seen before inflicted on civilians.
And how do you explain the attack on the UNRWA compound that was housing dozens of refugees and innocents civilians with no where else to run? There were no militants in that building, but the IDF showered it with W.P. anyway…it’s a war crime, plain and simple.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521925.ece
“Whatever” - yes, that final word aptly describes the lack of compassion you clearly have.
Report thisBy nefesh, February 7, 2009 at 5:09 pm Link to this comment
The flying pigs in this conflict are the ones who dropped white phosophorous bombs on the civilian population of Gaza.
Even the ICRC, with ist long record of anti_israel bias, agrees: Israel’s use of flares containing phosphorus was conventional and proper:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090114/ap_on_re_eu/eu_red_cross_white_phosphorus_2
“In some of the strikes in Gaza it’s pretty clear that phosphorus was used,” Herby told The Associated Press. “But it’s not very unusual to use phosphorus to create smoke or illuminate a target. We have no evidence to suggest it’s being used in any other way. Herby said that using phosphorus to illuminate a target or create smoke is legitimate under international law, and that there was no evidence the Jewish state was intentionally using phosphorus in a questionable way, such as burning down buildings or consciously putting civilians at risk
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Imagine if they did this to Geneva?
Right, just like we have to imagine it for Gaza.
The rest of your post: blah blah blah standard pro-Hamas BS propaganda.
Whatever.
Report thisBy diamond, February 7, 2009 at 2:30 pm Link to this comment
The flying pigs in this conflict are the ones who dropped white phosophorous bombs on the civilian population of Gaza. Imagine if they did this to Geneva? I can hear the screams of outrage now. Our bankers, our bankers, they killed our bankers and knocked down our nice buildings! No one cares about the Palestinians. The Israelis have impoverished them by taking their houses and their businesses and their land and they are now politically inconvenient people who have no place at the table of international powerbroking or political discussion. Israel has succeeded in outlawing an entire group of people and is now in the process of carrying out collective punishment for voting for Hamas - or so it appears to the outside world. Israeli journalists have stated openly that all of this carnage is about destroying any hope of a two state solution. Israel will only tolerate a ‘peace deal’ which reduces the Palestinian population to a collection of Bantustands, surrounded on all sides by Israelis and with no state, no autonomy, no identity and, most importantly, no legal way of defending themselves against settler aggression. Of course Israel will accuse Hamas of ‘war crimes’ that is just standard bait and switch, to accuse your enemy of what you yourself are guilty of. This human shields argument is completely without merit. The fact is, if you fly over a place like Gaza and drop bombs on it that will burn flesh to the bone you are going to kill civilians, you are going to kill babies, pregnant women and old people in a particularly cruel, inhuman way. And this doesn’t even address the outright murders, done in cold blood of children who were deliberately called out of a house and then shot by the IDF. Nor is this an aberration. Killing children is what the IDF does. This trick of telling civilians to come out of their houses and then attacking them was also used in Lebanon in 2006. I saw footage of the burned out cars of civilians who had been told to leave the area and were then shelled by the Israellis. They use these attacks on the civilian population as a weapon of terror and have for many decades. There is certainly ‘massive evidence’ for that.
Report thisBy nefesh, February 7, 2009 at 1:18 pm Link to this comment
Hamas stealing 200 tons of food is the least of their crimes.
Here’s a genuine flying-pig moment: The UN actually will examine the massive evidence of Hamas war crimes, specifically, child abuse in the form of human shields:
“The United Nations is ready to address Hamas’s use of children as human shields during last month’s IDF offensive in Gaza, the UN special representative for children and armed conflict told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.
“We have not yet dealt directly with the human shield issue, but we will now mention it in our reports,” Radhika Coomaraswamy said in an exclusive interview following a four-day visit to the region.
“It is still very difficult for us to say that it was actually happening and we still need to conduct a full investigation into what exactly took place… but we are not denying that it happened; it is absolutely possible that Hamas was using its civilians as human shields,” she said.”
Report thisBy Jim Yell, February 7, 2009 at 8:03 am Link to this comment
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What this sounds like is a political ploy by hamas to be seen distributing the aid to their supporters, as if it came from their hands and not a concerned world.
As long as terrorists use Gaza to launch unprovoked and indiscriminate attacks into Israel there will be no safety in Gaza.
I do not believe that the Jews in general approve of attacking people except in defense. If Gaza controls itself than I do not believe that Israel would attack it. If Palestinians set aside the crazy calls for extermanating the Jews I think everyone would be better served. Also, I further believe if Gaza controls itself and Israel attacked it, then Israel would lose its validity as a peaceful nation, but so far this has not happened.
Report thisBy diamond, February 6, 2009 at 1:53 pm Link to this comment
What a shock. Hungry people steal food. Who knew? And not even a smack on the hand for the authors of Gaza’s catastrophe? No, not Hamas, I’m talking about Israel’s army and government, the master puppeteers. The people who are systemically starving the people of Gaza in some bizarre experiment to see if they’ll turn against Hamas. Auschwitz, Belsen, Dachau and so many others come to mind. But I must put aside these naughty thoughts because Israel is always the victim and Israel is always righteous. Even when they shoot rock throwing children with M16’s, or fire rubber bullets at the foreheads of ten year old girls or shoot children in the back, or gun down grandmothers with white flags in their hands or shoot elderly women sitting in taxis. Tsk tsk. What was I thinking? How did I go so wrong?
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