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Senate Confirms ClintonPosted on Jan 21, 2009
Hillary Clinton made it safely through the confirmation process, despite a last-minute hissy fit from Senate Republicans. John McCain prevailed upon his colleagues to shape up and, in the end, only two voted against Clinton’s confirmation as secretary of state. She was then hastily sworn in.
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By Leefeller, January 24 at 7:32 pm #
Diamond,
Maybe I could be considered sensible like the French, consenting is nice especially between adults and I did not care at the time, even now; really just did not give a damn, like “Gone with the Wind”; don’t give a damn. The in our face news about the episode was despicably funny. Whispers and mummers among minions of the News. May have been the diversion so needed to make the times just right. Manipulation to distract is always suspect.
Report thisBy diamond, January 24 at 7:00 pm #
Leefeller the French don’t care what their politicians do sexually as long as it’s between consenting adults. Sensible people.
Report thisBy NY Stater, January 23 at 7:18 pm #
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Our new NY state senator, chosen by the accidental governor Paterson, is Democratic congresswoman Kirsten Gillibrand. Gilly is a known Hillary backer so this is not surprising. This protracted search by Paterson was a farce. This was a done deal for weeks despite running Caroline Kennedy up the media flagpole. That was a public diversion. There was no way Hillary would have allowed a Kennedy to fill her vacated seat. I agree that the Clintons are still in charge. Paterson has done a lot to secure Democratic party backing when he has to actually run for governor. But I would not turn my back on the Democrats if I were him.
Report thisBy Leefeller, January 23 at 6:15 pm #
Why do some of us have to live with this picture of Bill Clinton and the connotative cigar? Thanks Republicans!
Report thisBy Hemi*, January 23 at 3:17 pm #
“You should also consider why it was that Bill Clinton was impeached for getting a blow job and Bush and Cheney haven’t been impeached for treason, murder, betraying the constitution and going to war on a pack of lies.” - diamond
You’ve hit on something there but I don’t think you’re looking at it from this point of view. Clinton and the Clintons did not give a rat’s ass about being impeached over a blowjob. What really happened there? What was the punishment? We the people were punished. We swallowed, pardon the expression, the bullcrap of the hearings and were impaled on the fact that our national security was a joke. Who vetted Monica to be where she was, when she was? No-bo-dy! That was a side issue but not insignificant and yet was ignored by the impeachment committee, the media and the public. That same national security allowed the billing records to appear out of nowhere on a Whitehouse table fingerprints aside.
Why not Bush and Cheney? I think we all know. There would be far more than impeachment. There would be a criminal trial and a good chance of capital punishment for an elected, despite a dubious election, president. Why do you think Bush puts on his stupid act? He’s not stupid, he’s evil. If he came across as evil we would have impeached him and more. We don’t do that to stupid and that’s too bad. And what do you say to the patriots fighting an unjust war? Oops, you’re all war criminals! Then who do we exhume for Viet Nam? What about FDR for knowing in advance that Pearl Harbor was a Japanese target? This is just one in a long line of atrocities that one of our presidents has inflicted on the world. This is perhaps the first we’ve been fully aware of due in large part to the internet. Who knew JFK was shtupping every woman in Washington while that was happening? Just the government and good old boy reporters pressured to keep quiet for “national security” and there was no Internet to anonymously leak to. Why didn’t his own people stop his trysts? They weren’t allowed to for national security. Kennedy’s character flaws were used to control him in office and once they thought they could no longer control him…. And now the Internet is flooded with disinformation to render it useless except for propaganda.
Clinton’s BJ kept us from looking too closely at Bosnia. He gladly accepted that. Did it change his legacy? Is he now looked at in a different light by his supporters? Not a bit, they knew what he was before he ran. Smoke and mirrors, they’re all corrupt, they’re all working together tag-teaming our country and the world. The Dems have just tagged back in.
Diamond, I don’t know if you or Carla Schaeffer have considered the possibility that there are no “good persons” in the political mix. I think you’re both right in part.
Report thisBy J Heywood, January 23 at 12:37 pm #
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Diamond I know people like you will never realize where there’s smoke there’s fire.
The list of Clinton abuses seems endless. Off the top of my head there’s Cattlegate, Web Hubbell, the Lippo group, Paula Jones, Craig Livingstone, Hazel O’Leary, Stan Lee Media Co-Founder Peter Paul, Travelgate and Whitewater. Just for fun look up the good fortune that Billy Dale, the career head of the White House Travel Office, ran into with the Clintons. Makes you feel warm all over. And no I’m not a Republican I have problems with them as well. The last man I openly supported for president was John Glenn and he was a Democrat.
Former members of the Clinton’s cabinet as well as the Clintons themselves will continue to hold sway over the US economy. Going back to the Reagan administration a Bush or Clinton has run this country overtly or covertly. Reagan was just a puppet, like I need to tell you that? Senior Bush ran the show. And now Clinton will once again run the show, just not as president. Why do Clinton and Bush Sr. get along so well now that they’re former presidents? They were never at odds, it’s all for show. The wild swings in policy are there to keep us peons off balance while they shake loose every last dime. For instance the first “Yes Gitmo” and now “No Gitmo” just keeps us at odds with each other and living in fear of the consequences of these decisions. Were they holding innocent men? Are they releasing dangerous criminals? We the people will not stand for either of those outcomes. Divide and conquer. There is one thread through it all and that is money. They have managed to bleed the rest of the world dry and the US is the last bastion of middle-class wealth. Where there is middle-class wealth there is the possibility of someone taking a stand against these one world government tyrants. You will see our chances disappear with the coming bailouts. Why did both parties support these bailouts without much resistance? Not for our welfare I assure you. If our welfare was their concern this crisis would never have occurred.
The evidence has been right in front of us all along. Reagan a “B list” actor had and Obama a one term senator has no business being president. How did they possibly achieve that position? They were placed there. They both exude confidence and competence and that helps to mollify the masses but there’s no substance behind either man. Reagan had Bush Sr. pulling the strings and Obama has Clinton pulling his. Look at the appointment of this Geithner character. Is there any doubt in your mind that he is corrupt? If he is not corrupt then he is completely incompetent to the point of being an imbecile. His personal taxes aside he was president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York through the Bear Stearns, AIG and Lehman Brothers debacles. His track record is abysmal. Then you add to it that the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York cannot correctly file his own taxes. I am guessing you file and pay your taxes with or without a software program. Why is he excused? I personally don’t think he’s an imbecile just another corrupt “B list” actor. Yet through all of these embarrassing public revelations the new president has said nothing hoping to force this corrupt man into office, further increasing our fear of our own government. I also think this must grate on Obama because he has no say in these appointments. He’s an intelligent man and he’s not in control despite appearances. Paybacks as they say “are a bitch”.
Someone earlier in this thread quoted very appropriate lyrics from the Who song “Won’t Get Fooled Again”. “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.”
Report thisBy diamond, January 22 at 6:08 pm #
Carla Schaeffer I know it’s no good trying to reason with people like you but listen to yourself. Her prints were found on them? So what was the crime that makes her ‘prints’ relevant? The only person who went to jai over Whitewater was a woman who refused to lie to the media about the Clintons. ‘Don’t worry,’ the stooges of the right told her. ‘We’ll give you the story.’ She wouldn’t do it so they found a technicality and had her jailed. They also made her wear the red dress they only put on child murderers even though she had, in reality, committed no crime. When she was in the cage on the way to the courthouse the guards spat on her and masturbated on her. Do you begin to get a glimmering of the kind of people who are against the Clintons? These people stop at nothing and they have no morals,no ethics and no scruples. It’s always amused me that they accused Bill Clinton of being a moral danger to the country. They tried desperately to find something to smear the Clintons and their preferred outcome was for both the Clintons to be locked up and completely humiliated. The only time they actually got some of this garage into a court the Clintons were found not guilty. Not guilty - do you know what that means? They were innocent of all the crap that these baboons threw at them. Try using your brain instead of mindlessly repeating lies you read in the paper or saw on TV. You should also consider why it was that Bill Clinton was impeached for getting a blow job and Bush and Cheney haven’t been impeached for treason, murder, betraying the constitution and going to war on a pack of lies. Funny that.
Report thisBy DivinTn, January 22 at 3:49 pm #
Well Hillary have hes husband past to learn from his mistakes
maybe ...
Report thisBy bluejeanne, January 22 at 3:39 pm #
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“Shame on You Barack Obama errrr Mr. President”
I’m sorry I don’t quite “get it”. I guess ” BO ” didn’t really mind his senior fellow candidate/ fellow senator / and fellow Democrat speaking condescendingly to him a few months ago during the campaign. “That’s show business”. I know he’s attempting to keep his promise to include everybody under his unity umbrella but she’s already sounding like an AGGRESSIVE Sec. of State at her opening remarks to the State Department. It sounded like more of the same . . . not “c h a n g e” to me.
Report thisBy Carla Schaeffer, January 22 at 12:33 pm #
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Years after they had disappeared from Vince Foster’s office, subpoenaed Whitewater billing records were found by an aide. The “lost” files found sitting openly on a table in the White House proper had Hillary’s finger prints on them. I’ve never thought: “she must be a good person.”
Report thisBy Leefeller, January 22 at 12:21 pm #
Looking at the last campaign with the excessive negative taste left in our mouths, it is interesting how they can kiss and make up. Even McCain is in the hug Obama mood? Do I feel an inkling of opportunism here? Guess we will find out if Obama is really a Moslem or an American citizen?
Seems differences in politics is nothing more than a ruse for show perception more than substance. Maybe campaigns are used to develop and refine fear and hate for later use?
My beef is with this nepotism thing, sort of like royalty, we endure our so called leaders with this Royal greatness. Clintion’s, Kennedy’s, (the bush’s), what is that all about, maybe they should have golden balls awards. Could it be power is like wealth, once a person has it, it does not go away?
Even so it is refreshing to see a new name in the Office of President, especially since it rankles the bigots in Texas no end. Guess Russ Limpjaw is in heaven.
Report thisBy diamond, January 22 at 4:38 am #
God. The elephant boys really hate her don’t they? Only confirms what I’ve always thought: she must be a good person.
Report thisBy Hemi*, January 21 at 7:56 pm #
Yay “Billary”! “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!”
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