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Israel Under Fire for Gaza Killings

Posted on Jan 17, 2009
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A Palestinian United Nations worker inspects damage to a classroom at a U.N.-affiliated school that was hit by Israeli troops on Saturday in Beit Lahiya, northern Gaza Strip. About 1,600 Gazans were reported to have taken shelter at the school.

As Israel’s Security Cabinet prepared to vote Saturday on a possible cease-fire in Gaza, the Israeli army drew criticism for the killing of two boys who were taking cover at a United Nations school in northern Gaza, according to The New York Times.

The New York Times:

The deaths brought a new round of sharp condemnation for Israel from the United Nations, including aid officials who raised questions about whether the attack, and others like it, should be investigated as war crimes. The Israeli Army said that it was investigating the reports at the highest level but that initial inquiries indicated that troops were returning fire from near or within the school.

The military said that it struck hundreds of targets overnight, including rocket-launching sites, about 70 smuggling tunnels, and weapons caches, and that its troops tightened the encirclement of Gaza City.

Hamas officials outside Gaza vowed to fight on, regardless of any Israeli cease-fire declaration. The group’s representatives were scheduled to meet Egyptian officials in Cairo who are trying to pull together a lasting truce in this three-week-old war, in which more than 1,200 Palestinians, and 13 Israelis, have died.

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By cyrena, January 19, 2009 at 9:26 pm Link to this comment

By geronimo, January 18 at 4:54 pm

great post at the above Geronimo.

“Along with last week’s shutdown of the Israeli consulates in Los Angeles and San Francisco by Jewish anti-Zionists, a January 4 Rasmussen Report found that Jewish support for Israel is on the decline.”

“Which means?”

“Zionists won’t be ablt to intimidate people into supporting Israel for fear that, if they don’t, they’ll be labeled as either anti-Semites or self-hating Jews.”


“Public opinion will shift from being pro-Israeli to pro-Palestinian.”

“And the Obama administration?”

“It’ll listen to the people.”

“Based on?”

“Yes we can.”


I love it! I also know, (as pretty much anybody else could or would, if they’d actually heard anything that Obama has said regarding Israel, ASIDE from the pandering speech to AIPAC) that the Obama administration is already listening to the people on this. There are too many of us for him to ignore, including the Jewish American and Israeli voices.

In other words, he ‘gets it’ about Israel anyway, even if the we the people don’t demand action.

Now it’s worth a day dream or so to wonder if he might include this as a commitment in his Inaugural Address tomorrow. In fact, he doesn’t have to go into a long rant on how despicable and evil Israel is, since not ALL Israelis are despicable and evil supporters of these actions. So the only thing Obama has to do is to simply COMMIT US to the act and behave in concert and coordination with the rest of the International Community, as determined by International Law, and the agreements to which we are ALREADY committed.

That’s really all Obama has to say, “OK folks, the US is going to start abiding by the International Laws, and actively supporting the rest of the International Community in the enforcement process.”

That’s really it. The process, (long ago set up to deal with these things - such as enforcement tools to restrain Israel) can then proceed, without the US blocking the action, as the Dick Bush Rice Bolton team has done for the past 8 years.

I have a feeling the new Administration department in charge of this stuff has already got it in the works. Somebody always has to do the paperwork. wink
Seriously though, there’s a whole lot of bureaucratic grunge work that goes into this stuff.

So, even though most of the hard work happens out of the public view, we can still anticipate that it WILL happen.

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By Shenonymous, January 19, 2009 at 10:41 am Link to this comment

Thank you nefertiti.  I hope you don’t mind but I posted your link for Sir Gerald Kaufmann’s speech on another forum.  I think they ought to hear it as well.

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By nefertiti, January 19, 2009 at 10:30 am Link to this comment

Israel forbade the Western Media to enter Gaza to hide the atrocities , (and the western journalists di not cause chaos like they normally do when zimbabwe refuses access ) but AL Jazeera , AL ALAM and Press tv showed all those atrocities . it attacked and bombed their building thank god they managed to survive only one journalist died in that building and 2 of his aides got injured . the Israeli crimes are on most Blogs and on Youtube on AL Jazeera .  israel failed to hide its crimes and as long as America is behind it , vetoing any UN resolution , Israel will never stop causing crimes against Humanity .

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By nefertiti, January 19, 2009 at 10:26 am Link to this comment

troublesum , you will love this link . cant find a better one .

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By nefertiti, January 19, 2009 at 10:24 am Link to this comment

Ed Harges

I was very excited about Obama too , in fact i was hoping he wins from the very first day , then I heard him at an AIPAC meeting , then at the Knesset in Jerusalem , and i have heard Mrs clinton and Biden (both zionists more than many Jewish israelis who want true just peace )  i have given up . i have become more pessimistic than ever . we can only count on resistance,  (get rid of those cowards in our Arab world first ) and count on the help of decent Americans and Europeans who believe in Justice to help us othewise nothing will happen , the bloodshed will continue . As long as the cowards in the Arab world keep funding the destruction of Israel (instead of forcing israel to pay for the damage it cause ) Israel will not stop in its massacrs .

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By nefertiti, January 19, 2009 at 10:21 am Link to this comment

Israel under Fire ? Nah , it has always managed to get away with murder (litterarly )
from Deir Yassin ,to Kafr Qassim to Qana (twice ) to Gaza 2008/09 etc… and nothing will happen , no one will punish those vampires in Israel as long as the Jewish Lobby is very active within US and European Governments .

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By geronimo, January 18, 2009 at 5:54 pm Link to this comment
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Time’s Running Out On Israel


“Gaza looks more and more like the Warsaw Ghetto.”

“Anything else?”

“Along with last week’s shutdown of the Israeli consulates in Los Angeles and San Francisco by Jewish anti-Zionists, a January 4 Rasmussen Report found that Jewish support for Israel is on the decline.”

“Which means?”

“Zionists won’t be ablt to intimidate people into supporting Israel for fear that, if they don’t, they’ll be labeled as either anti-Semites or self-hating Jews.”


“Public opinion will shift from being pro-Israeli to pro-Palestinian.”

“And the Obama administration?”

“It’ll listen to the people.”

“Based on?”

“Yes we can.”

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By Ed Harges, January 18, 2009 at 9:05 am Link to this comment

I am sick of US subservience to the vicious ethnic supremacist state of Israel. I’m just nauseated. God damn it, is their any way out? It looks to me like Obama is just going to continue this. Our only hope is that he’s been lying. And what kind of position is that to be in - hoping that your fabulous new savior-president is a liar?

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By Shenonymous, January 18, 2009 at 7:26 am Link to this comment

Today Hamas is meeting with Egyptian officials in Cairo.  The talk will be about whether they can assemble a “lasting” truce where the casualties were immensely unbalanced.  Not that there must be balance in a war for that is the whole point of war, to shatter an enemy.  The question remains what is being done to prevent more war?  A quasi-1-year peace agreement is only stopping the carnage but it is not solving the problem.  It is quasi since Hamas is still launching rockets and Israel is still retaliating.  It is a fake peace that can erupt at any hot moment and the war rage again. 

The ‘condemnation’ of the United Nations is impotent once again and is debatable as having any effect whatsoever.  I read where heavy Israeli bombardment continued throughout the day Saturday, and in an attack that brought scathing criticism from the United Nations.  What exactly does that mean?  So what if the UN condemns any nation?  What does that mean? The United Nations is the most ineffective world organization ever created.  Name one thing they have been able to do about the Gaza onslaught?  You don’t really believe anybody or any country will be brought to trial for war crimes, do you?  What exactly has the UN done in Gaza that is constructive, there or anywhere else for that matter? 

Imagine you are two little boys, ages 5 and 7 and are running toward what is thought to be a safe haven but actually you get blown up and are dead!  Just imagine what those little boys felt as they are blown apart!  It is an unconscionable and heinous thing that was done by the Israelis (read Zionists).  There were 1600 people in that UN supposedly safe compound.  It is unforgivable.  Each and every death, the more than 1200 on the Gazan side and what 15 give or take one or two on the Israeli side, each and every death is unforgivable.  Just as it is unforgivable the ghastly hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, the mere 4000 American soldiers, and no telling how many of the soldiers of the allies have been killed, since we never get that news, that have been killed in the last 8 years for one reason or another, which keeps changing as the politicians need to in order to cover their asses.

It is obvious the tunnels need to be destroyed once and for all, armaments stopped to Hamas.  And the Israelis withdrawn from Gaza and disarmed, period.  There is no point in making the truce, except to give some time for discussion which we all know will be useless for any permanent peace.  Pragmatically speaking, there must be a permanent peace.

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By Shift, January 17, 2009 at 9:59 pm Link to this comment

Israeli blood-lust in Gaza is a war crime and those responsible will be tried.  There can be no other course for both Israel and the United States. This next week should solidify the evidence.

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By eileen fleming, January 17, 2009 at 7:18 pm Link to this comment

Israel TV news broadcast a Gaza father’s heartbreak. Dr. Izz el-Deen Aboul Aish, gave frequent interviews to the Israeli media and was minutes away from giving another when he called newscaster Shlomi Eldar, screaming and weeping with grief for Israeli tank had shelled his home, killing three of his daughters and injuring other family members. 



Mr. Max Gaylard, the United Nations Humanitarian Coordinator for the occupied Palestinian territory issued the following statement:

Yesterday witnessed the most intense fighting to date in the Gaza Strip, with Israeli ground forces advancing deeper into densely populated areas, particularly Gaza City with an estimated population of 500,000 people. Intense Israeli shelling hit the main UNRWA compound in Gaza City and three hospitals - Al Wafa, Al Fata, and Al Quds. Two ambulances were also hit by Israeli fire…

Civilians and the injured must have access to medical care.

Violations of international humanitarian law by one party to a conflict offer no justification for non-compliance by other parties. Allegations of violations must be fully investigated and those responsible held to account.

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By Fadel Abdallah, January 17, 2009 at 5:48 pm Link to this comment

Israel under fire for Gaza killings?!

Interesting headline for a change, isn’t it?!

And who is doing the “firing”?! And what are the weapons of mass destruction being used to match the Israeli arsenal?!

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By PatrickHenry, January 17, 2009 at 5:12 pm Link to this comment

Not all in Israel have lost their morality.

I hope it is a growing trend.

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By troublesum, January 17, 2009 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment

Sorry, I gave the wrong link.  It should be

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By troublesum, January 17, 2009 at 3:54 pm Link to this comment  for the Chomsky talk on Gaza

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By troublesum, January 17, 2009 at 3:48 pm Link to this comment

Noam Chomsky, speaking at a forum at MIT, insists on referring to the assault as the US-Israeli assault on Gaza.  Israel is taking all of the criticism internationally, but we know where most of the responsibility lies.  There is a link to his talk at

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By hmp49, January 17, 2009 at 2:38 pm Link to this comment
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And now they won’t accept a cease fire “unless its on THEIR terms.”

as for ESO, he needn’t worry - Hamas already promises to fight over every inch on land (including the pre-1967 borders of Israel) until all the Jews have been killed. That is independent of the outcome of this war which Hamas has forced.

Read the Hamas charter, available in its at the peace site, (a site run by both Palestinians and Israelis). A few choice tidbits:

“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.” (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

“The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. “

“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

  Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

      “The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree,  would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).


Perhaps ESO has some suggests for how to deal with people committed to your extermination?

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By Eso, January 17, 2009 at 2:00 pm Link to this comment

What Israel (and indirectly the U.S.) has accomplished is to traumatize 1.5 million people. It is a prize that the state of Israel and its citizens will pay for as long as one of the Gaza children is still alive.

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