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Another Sen. Kennedy in the Works?

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Posted on Dec 15, 2008
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Her hat’s in the ring: Caroline Kennedy, who hasn’t always sought the spotlight, is now actively looking to share in the Kennedy family’s political legacy.

It seems inevitable that Caroline Kennedy would eventually follow the siren call of politics to the point of making her own bid for a Senate seat. It’s even more fitting that, if she is selected by New York Gov. David A. Paterson, Kennedy will inherit the post from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, a member of another Democratic dynasty, and that the same seat was once held by her uncle, Robert Kennedy.


The New York Times:

Ms. Kennedy will ask Gov. David A. Paterson of New York to consider her for the appointment, according to the person told of her decision. The governor was traveling to Utica today and could not immediately be reached for comment.

[...] Ms. Kennedy’s decision is likely to have a major impact on the governor’s considerations as he mulls who should succeed Mrs. Clinton. Already, some other Democrats have pointedly questioned her credentials for the job. United States Representative Gary Ackerman, a Queens Democrat, said last week that he did not know what Ms. Kennedy’s qualifications were, “except that she has name recognition — but so does J. Lo.”

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By Anarcissie, December 17, 2008 at 7:16 am Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind: ’... And, unless she uncharacteristically bumbles and blunders, she’s a SHOE-IN for re-election.’

We don’t know that.  And far more importantly, Governor Paterson and his friends in the Democratic Party don’t know that.

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By Inherit The Wind, December 16, 2008 at 9:15 pm Link to this comment

Dang! I wish Truthdig had an edit button like most web-sites do.  That way I could fix the idiot typos I made!

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By Inherit The Wind, December 16, 2008 at 9:13 pm Link to this comment

The usual ultra-left “progressives” are naturally against Ms. Kennedy as Senator.  Lots of reasons, none of them good.
1) They want the senator elected.  But that’s not how the law works in NY—the Governor appoints someone.  When RFK was murdered, Rockefeller appointed a Republican, Goodell, to replace him.  But Goodell was liberal, and split the vote with Ottinger, so James Buckley (brother of William F.) became senator.
2) They want someone who is CERTAIN to be defeated in 2010.  Because who they want will be SO left-wing that the voters from upstate NY and Long Island will come out in DROVES to vote for rabid, dysplastic American Pit Bull over this guy (or gal).
3) Patterson wants someone re-electable.
4) Qualified? QUALIFIED??? QUALIFIED??????? Is Saxby Chambliss qualified? Is Shelby qualified? Is Mitch McConnell qualified? Is Imhofe qualified? Is Joe Lieberman qualified? Is John McCain qualified?  Is that ignorant moron from Kentucky, whose only qualification is he threw a no-hitter 40 or 50 years ago, Jim Bunning, qualified????

Compared to THESE bozos (and, LORD, did I skip a lot) Caroline Kennedy is EMINENTLY qualified!

She’s a 51-year old woman—the little girl hiding under the President’s desk is 45 years into the past. She came out for Barack Obama BEFORE Uncle Teddy.  I don’t think ANYONE is going to tell THIS lady who to vote or how to think!

Besides, the Kennedy women have always been smarter than the Kennedy men—and Caroline K is no exception.

And, unless she uncharacteristically bumbles and blunders, she’s a SHOE-IN for re-election. 

And that’s a deal-maker in politics.

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By Anarcissie, December 16, 2008 at 8:17 pm Link to this comment

Actually, publicly begging for the job makes the Kennedys look pretty weak.  Maybe they’re being set up for a takedown.

Paterson’s concerns must be to select someone who he would rather have in Washington than Albany and who can get reelected in 2010 and 2012.  Andrew Cuomo, for example.  Caroline Kennedy, as far as I know, has never run for public office and is no threat to the governor’s own ambitions.  On top of that, Paterson can show he’s a tough guy by standing up to the Kennedys.

I regret to say, however, that the Kennedy brand is rather popular with the folk.  We are as cursed with monarchists as the rest of the country, and I am sure they desire subservience equal to their own in all public officials.

Well, if worse comes to worst, New Yorkers will have yet another reason to vote Green in 2010.

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By John Crandell, December 16, 2008 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment
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Hey, I couldn’t be happier with the prospect of Ms. Schlosberg occupying the seat of her legendary uncle. Once again, there will be two Kennedy’s in the upper chamber and I think she will surprise everyone, particularly La Hamster.

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By Libarchist, December 16, 2008 at 3:44 pm Link to this comment

jobart
But for my buck, we need a new Kennedy in the Gov’t., if we hope to fight against the powers that be.  My 2 cents.

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I agree 99% of the current politicians are clowns; that have no idea what a true liberal democracy is; the Kennedy’s are ultra liberals, so they can help us to get to our roots…liberal, democratic and free—with liberty and justice for all.

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By Libarchist, December 16, 2008 at 2:14 pm Link to this comment

By samosamo, December 16 at 1:16 pm #
By Libarchist, December 16 at 7:21 am

The last president that wanted to shut down the cia was assassinated. Her dad I believe.

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But,  a majority of the (Nazis and CIA traitors) are dead, from old age. Also, there money is probably gone….the fear still exists, but fear can be overcome.

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By Blackspeare, December 16, 2008 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment

It will become increasingly difficult for the governor of New York to resist the aspirations of Caroline Kennedy and her minions.  Is it OK to say he was blind-sided?!

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By samosamo, December 16, 2008 at 1:16 pm Link to this comment

By Libarchist, December 16 at 7:21 am

The last president that wanted to shut down the cia was assassinated. Her dad I believe.

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By abdo, December 16, 2008 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment

If you cannot have spacial election, at least let the representative have the power to approve or disapprove the governor selection.

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By abdo, December 16, 2008 at 12:09 pm Link to this comment

No royal Wright to power, by the governor the Kennedy or the Clinton,  If you cannot have spacial election, at least let the representative have the power to approve or disapprove the governor selection.

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By jobart, December 16, 2008 at 12:02 pm Link to this comment
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I was out “politicing: for JFK @ my bus stop @ the age of 8.  I went to an RFK rally on L.I. @ the age of 15, and actually shook his hand as the flatbed vehicle pulled out of the shopping center where the rally was held. I will never forget the “empathy” in his eyes. I’ve always thought that the “best” politicians are those that are incorruptable. If they didn’t need $, they didn’t need to “give in” to “more $”. The Kennedys’ are a family that was built on illegal machinations (prohibition) and, due to ill-gotten gains, never “wanted” for anything. And this is “precisely” why they make good politicians.  If they aren’t “corruptable” (i.e. overly greedy), they can make decisions that are based on making America a better place to live. Caroline, at this point, has the opportunity to continue to fight the “good fight” as Uncle Ted is soon to be history and JFK, Jr. was effectively taken out by the system (google George W. JFK, Jr. and the 2000 New Hampshire primary & GHWB JFK and J. Edgar Hoover) You may find the “coincidences” at least, somewhat, unusual.  But for my buck, we need a new Kennedy in the Gov’t., if we hope to fight against the powers that be.  My 2 cents.

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By Maani, December 16, 2008 at 11:09 am Link to this comment

I am not necessarily opposed to “dynasties,” since the most important question is whether an individual is qualified to hold the office for which they are running.  However, I am troubled by this.  I like Ms. Kennedy, and she has done some wonderful work in the public-private sector.  But in my opinion, she is unqualified (beyond the “requirements”) to be a U.S. Senator.  Here is the letter I wrote to the NYT in response to their article on the issue:

“To The Editor:

It is disturbing that Caroline Kennedy is lobbying for Hillary Clinton’s U.S. Senate seat, and even more disturbing that members of her family are also doing so on her behalf (“Caroline Kennedy Is Seeking Seat Held By Clinton,” Dec. 16).
Not only is this unseemly, it undermines Governor David Paterson’s sworn duty to appoint the person that he believes, in his own unilateral judgment, would best serve the people of New York State.  That person may or may not be Ms. Kennedy.  Yet if she and her family lobby heavily, and Mr. Paterson ultimately chooses someone else, this could lead, at best, to hurt feelings and, at worst, to political payback.
Mr. Paterson must be allowed to make his choice completely independently.  Ms. Kennedy and her family should back off and allow the process to work as it is meant to.”

Peace.

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By dihey, December 16, 2008 at 10:15 am Link to this comment

I forgot to mention: she is also a US citizen.

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By Little Brother, December 16, 2008 at 9:56 am Link to this comment

Very true, Anarcissie—It wasn’t the clamor of vox populi that awakened the late-blooming politico; was this Sleeping Beauty aroused by Bonnie Prince Barack’s kiss?

The corporate infotainwhore industry, which predictably erupted with hysterical smarm and schmaltz when Caroline came out for Obama, is always thrilled when another scion of Clan Kennedy steps out of the wings onto the public stage, regardless of the reasons.

I remember scanning a Huffington Post article that reverently referred to Caroline as the “Only Remaining Blood Heir” of JFK.

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By Anarcissie, December 16, 2008 at 8:12 am Link to this comment

I am waiting to see if the Kennedys still have the royal power to command a Senatorial appointment from a mere governor of New York State.  However, Little Brother, in this case the people are not being asked to manifest their fondness for monarchy; it does not appear that anyone gives a rat what they want.

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By Little Brother, December 16, 2008 at 7:45 am Link to this comment

Not even the literary genius of Mark Twain could undermine the pathetic and atavistic royalism that still grips the Amerikan masses, rightly despised by Twain and others influenced by the Enlightenment.

Caroline’s been keeping her Clan Kennedy-issued “Get Into Political Office for Free” card in her jewelry box; perhaps she finally took it out to preempt a midlife crisis.

There’s no expiration date on those things.

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By Libarchist, December 16, 2008 at 7:21 am Link to this comment

samosamo,
Maybe your state legislature, but her decisions would influence me and I don’t believe in granting seats in the senate in d.c. to celebrity elite. Let her run in an election against others.


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Contrary to popular opinion; genuine liberalism (that is those who seek a true democracy)—has not existed for around 40 or more years in the USA.

The Kennedy’s are are all ultra liberals; she had to be a celebrity elete; to make a living, because of may reasons.

But, think of the power—she would have for example to move to have the CIA shut down. If the CIA is shut down the Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex is powerless here and overseas.

Former New York US Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, wanted to have the—CIA abolished.

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By dihey, December 16, 2008 at 5:02 am Link to this comment

Of course Carolyne Kennedy is qualified to be a US Senator. Her age is past the required minimum and she is a resident of the State of New York which are the only constitutional demands for qualification. And so is Gary Ackerman and apparently all others vying for that Senate seat. I am qualified to be a US Senator from Texas even though almost nobody in my state knows me or would ever vote for me (except myself).
Folks, get off the “is Carolyne qualified-bandwagon” and focus on “what does she bring to the US Senate”? Little, if anything in my opinion other than more fuel to the “Jets” (Clinton’s) vs. “Sharks” (Kennedy’s) enmity. She will vote as her uncle instructs her to vote. What will she do after Teddybear is no longer a US senator?
Any other candidate appointed by the Governor will get caught in the middle of the “Jets vs. Sharks rumbles” and will get seriously hurt politically. The Sharks are known to be unforgiving. The Jets apparently do not care who gets the seat.
Welcome to America’s most favorite political musical. It is amusing but also outright ridiculous. When I add to this the two other currently popular political musicals of Blagojevich and Franken/Coleman I am beginning to wonder whether this was a reason why Benjamin Franklin did not want a US Senate.
It is said that the US Senate is “the world’s most prestigious deliberating body”. I wonder whether that is seriously meant or a joke.

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By samosamo, December 16, 2008 at 4:49 am Link to this comment

By Libarchist, December 16 at 2:03 am

Maybe your state legislature, but her decisions would influence me and I don’t believe in granting seats in the senate in d.c. to celebrity elite. Let her run in an election against others.

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By Libarchist, December 16, 2008 at 2:03 am Link to this comment

I think she would be a great Senator, for my state.

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By samosamo, December 15, 2008 at 10:17 pm Link to this comment

By Chris, December 15 at 4:19 pm #
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This is disgusting. This is a big reason why I don’t vote anymore.

I guess if your not from the Kennedy or Bush families (or any other American political dynasty) your chances of running for public office are zero.

God how I wish a viable third party would emerge in the next election to challenge both established parties. Democrats and Republicans are so full of it.
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Twould be great but it won’t happen until a 3rd party with enough money to pay the msm to campaign comes along with a strong enough platform to capture the majority of the people.
Hope it happens soon.

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By CJ, December 15, 2008 at 8:34 pm Link to this comment

Maddow just talked of ceasing to pretend the Senate’s not House of Lords. I’d add, not the current British House of Lords, which isn’t much more than a ceremonial, rubber-stamp job, but the House of Lords before, when that institution wielded more power. Still, not so much power as that wielded by the U.S. Senate, best characterized by Gore Vidal when he referenced the Roman Senate when that body sent that note to Tiberius. Tiberius—being more of a democrat than recent American Presidents and members of Congress—replied with his own note informing the Roman Senate that they looked to be damn fools. I can’t recall if it was Gibbon or Graves, or maybe both, who described Tiberius as hopelessly morally corrupt. Not if what Vidal reports is true. I don’t doubt Vidal—historian who’s not agenda-driven. Must have been Gibbon, since I recall Graves being more sensible on other topics.

As for the truly hopelessly morally corrupt, they are more far more omnipresent than ever before. More deceptively so than ever before.

The fact that some believe Caroline not qualified strikes me as red herring. That’s like saying that scion of an Ivy Leaguer isn’t qualified (meaning, primarily, entitled) to attend the same Ivy League university. Obviously, the qualification that matters most is the very fact of being scion.

Yes, Rachel, let’s stop pretending—that what isn’t is. (“I did not have sexual relations with that woman!” First, Bill, her name is Monica, not “that woman.” Pretense is just so readily available, isn’t it? It’s as though the language were invented for the purpose of obscuring whatever reality humans might be capable of knowing. Well, “it depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.”)

Ah, the hell with it. I see no reason not to go the distance since nothing quite so pitiful as half-wayism, if you will. First, Brits done once and for all with their own pretentious parliamentary system in favor of Elizabeth, after we might be done with ours in order to return to status as colony ruled from afar by queen or king.

Elizabeth seems a decent-enough person, possibly as decent as was Tiberius. Course, Caligula came along not long after Tiberius. Then there was King George. Rule by monarch (emperor or the like) is no doubt an always-risky business what with the ever-present possibility of twisted scion attaining to throne.

But would risking that risk be worse than, say, Governor Blagojevich? Or Nixon? Or Reagan or Bush? Or Clinton or Blair? Or current Congress? What qualification? Having been elected to office before? What qualified these people in the first place to be elected to anything whatsoever? It’s not as though they all studiously attended university whereat they learned how to think beyond cleverly scheming on behalf of ownership. Otherwise, by all appearances, they seem all to be megalomaniacs, complete with delusion of compassion.

That Caroline isn’t qualified in the way critics mean is completely beside the point.

It’s not that Kennedy might not be qualified but that she’s scion. If she’s of truly democratic mind then she should already know that as scion she’s ipso facto disqualified. (Sorry, Caroline. Too bad; bummer, man; have a wonderful life. Which she’s already enjoyed and which she’s never ceased to enjoy.) Caroline Kennedy should know that moneyed aristocracy is even worse than blood aristocracy.

See? Caroline? Withdraw. If for no more reason than for the sake of appearances according to five senses. Not only does your seeking a Senate seat look bad, doing so sounds, smells, tastes and feels bad.

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By samosamo, December 15, 2008 at 7:08 pm Link to this comment

Back in late 2006 when the presidential campaign was taking off, I saw few choices I would vote for and soon there after, those were ‘disappeared’ by the corrupted msm by their choices for the american people. What reamained were exactly what we got, a race to elect the ‘elite of their choice’, the msm’s choice who are controlled by none other than the elite.
I found that I could not vote for the main, or as the msm silently proclaimed-the only party(s), offered for president. Not much difference in the senate and house seats either. So, I voted 3rd party which was in contrast to my idea of voting for the ‘least worst’ of the choices.
While New York in not my home state and I assume the governor will ‘pick’ the replacement for clinton so she can further her political career and ms. kennedy is the ‘popular’ choice and indicates she wants the position, it is not lost on me, no matter her qualifications and intentions, her situation as part of the ‘elite rich’ who will and do what they can to protect their monetary interests. And in the case of politics as in the case of beautiful women, you never know what you get until you are married and then it will be too late.
So, even though she will be appointed to the senate seat clinton vacated, in the long term she will vote for the elite’s interests and not for the people no matter how intelligent or ‘fair & squire’ she comes across. It will be elite priority, all others, rescinded. But, she could make me wrong, she could have a conscience.

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By realitycheck, December 15, 2008 at 6:31 pm Link to this comment
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....Joeseph Schmoltz:
I like your style.

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By PeeDee, December 15, 2008 at 6:14 pm Link to this comment
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We have a great governor who was seated in office through a benign trick of fate. I believe he has the power to see through the dross and choose the right person. I would rather see someone with Elizabeth Holtzman’s credentials. There are a number of other worthy contenders who the press is determined to keep out of the limelight. As far as Kennedy’s credentials, they are as good as anyone’s but she is a bit of an elitist, I suspect, and we have far too many of those running about in public office.

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By Chris, December 15, 2008 at 4:19 pm Link to this comment
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This is disgusting. This is a big reason why I don’t vote anymore.

I guess if your not from the Kennedy or Bush families (or any other American political dynasty) your chances of running for public office are zero.

God how I wish a viable third party would emerge in the next election to challenge both established parties. Democrats and Republicans are so full of it.

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By Joeseph Schmoltz, December 15, 2008 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment
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United States Representative Gary Ackerman, a Queens Democrat, said last week that he did not know what Ms. Kennedy’s qualifications were, “except that she has name recognition…

Who the hell is Gary Ackerman?  I sure don’t know what his qualifications are… AND I LIVE IN QUEENS.. Astoria Blvd… Next to St Michaels Cemetary…where all the dead pols are burried!

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