ZERO: An Investigation into 9/11 is here http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739&ei=EOs2ScfzFZnWqAOh2Y3aCA&q=zero+an+investigation+into+9/11

Noz: I’ve checked all that stuff out, and I am currently convinced that no airplane crash could have brought down those buildings. OK? SO what seems only a bit odd is WHY have it set up in advance? It does seem to me that that ‘plan’, if you will, led to the most obvious and embarassing part of the scenario when the plane that should have flown into building 7 didn’t. I can just see some CIA operative sitting at his button panel, “Where’s that plane? What the fock is he doing? Should I go ahead and pull it now?” and waiting hours to make the decision again for what reason? We could speculate on that ‘till pigs fly but to me that is what is so strange about it. As for peoples state of mind; I think that those in a daze, are in denial. You can only feel horribly helpless if you accept the reality of this type of thing. It seems that the desired effect has been achieved however, as the fearmongering continues. But we have this communication now and we should all keep at it as much as we can, because when enough people realize we will have the strength to overcome. Too many are still buying it. It is no longer hopeless to be heard. It is only a matter of repetition to get the dull witted to respond.

Inherit The Wind:

You don’t have to pay anyone to do it…it’s their belief and that’s why they are fanatics…willing to give their lives for their beliefs.

If you believe that no one was paid and such people didn’t exist, which may also be true, then it opens up a whole new slew of issues and discontinuities which throw the official story even further down the gutter.

Eye witness reports of unmarked aircraft, etc…and the clear lack of logical wreckage at the pentagon doesn’t even begin to address such inconsistencies.

There are just SO MANY issues with the whole WTC 9/11 incident, I can’t even know where to begin and I am in disbelief that people in this country have so little interest in such an amazing open holed event.

Literally speaking, people in this country have responded to the 9/11 debacle as if it were a freaking hollywood movie…and nothing more.

That to me, is even more amazing than the event itself and speaks volumes of how well people have become conditioned to not question or think about events anymore.

Noz?
“Given that, I’m not saying mad men didn’t fly aircraft into the buidings….they did.  It’s easy to make fanatics do your begging…but the real issue is who hired them to do it? “

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Methinks I detect a slight discontinuity here…

How much would YOU demand to be paid to fly a plane into a building, killing yourself?

“If there was money in dying Frank would stand in front of a firing squad!”—Hawkeye Pierce, from M*A*S*H

So ... should i hide under my bed, quivering, waiting for Cheney to save me?

Screw these fear-mongerers.

i may die in a traffic accident.  or from my next heart attack.  or from slipping on the ice in Minnesota. or from food poisoning.  or from some terrorists’ action.

of all of those possibilities,  the terrorists attack is the least likely way i’ll die.

so screw these fear mongerers.  better to worry about food safety - that’s affecting a lot more people.

Noz; Since you mention this WTC thing I will bring up something that I have not seen questioned YET after all these years. WHY would there be a need for demolition when you can get someone to crash a plane into the buildings. So the answer that comes to mind is that, the building would have to be pulled for sure afterward, and it would be awfully difficult to do the job safely (that is for the demo crew) when the buildings were already badly damage. And then, you have building 7, which is the finest example of demolition ever known. But no aircraft damage, and nothing inside more volitile than deisel, which burns just a little bit faster than parafin. AND you have an aircraft that did not hit it’s target. Perhaps we have a cinic who can enlighten us? Could there be a connection between the errant jet liner and the magic collapse of building 7?

By Frank, December 1 at 3:01 pm

Your arrogance is appalling. You have no common sense and in your vain attempt to classify terrorists as some foreign nationale should put you in the nut house. You entirely miss the boat and it makes me wonder how your concept of what is wrong here and the world is just as onesided as you claim me and others commenting here about the ‘inside jobs’. I know the government in charge right now has created hostile people from other countries but I doubt you could ever come up with what the terrorists that are in our government and hiding behind the lobbyist’s sharp suit and briefcase and perfect hair are really doing. Well, here’s a link from a lowly old site, msnbc, tonight:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28001417/

From your own keypad from which you have typed your dribble, you have shown where your allegiance lies. Your support of these economic terrortists, from w & dick on down to paulson of the treasury, benanke of the fed, the traitors in congress(dem&repubs;), you give your full approval of their actions.
So keep up with the comic facade of how ridiculus we commneters are but you are part of the economic terrortists by being with them.
By chance, are you a big recipient of earmarks and porkbarrel legislation?

This new release of propaganda is not only very disturbing, it is a clear sign that our government is still pressing forward with Imperialist actions. This continuing effort to brainwash the public is a very very dangerous move. If there should be any skepticism it should most certainly be toward the motives of our government. If one cannot remember that we were lied to about the danger of Iraq then it is worth every effort to remind them. It is not the least bit irrational to say “could be a false flag operation” about anything that would invoke negative sentiments toward a nation of which the U.S. is violating sovereignty. Such might be the case with Iran or Pakistan. What is even more frightening is the mindless acceptance of this kind of propaganda and the ignorant rejection of obviously much needed warning against it’s danger.
There is much history that supports the valid suspicion of motives. Just a few reminders, even though those who wish to close their minds will probably not open their eyes either.

The Gleiwitz Incident:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/12-20-45.asp  (section 242)
Operation Northwoods:
http://media.nara.gov/media/images/36/15/36-1469a.jpg
Operation Ajax:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0004/19/i_ins.00.html

Turn your head, close your eyes, mock the enlightened. And have a good laugh, as every fool will.

Hilarious responses. Those who bring forgone conclusions about conspiracies to any attack claimed by Islamic extremist groups have labeled me ‘brainwashed’ and a ‘neocon implant’ (whatever that means) because I predicted they will continue to do so. Oh, the irony.

While rational discourse may be in short supply on these forums, humorous absurdity is a constant supply.

In my view, application of reason and judicious use of the skepticism with respect to conspiracy theories doesn’t make one ‘close minded’. It simply implies intelligence, which is more than I can say for these highly presumptive responses.

Hey Frank, uh, have you ever heard the term “BRAINWASHED”. LOL! It is of utmost importance that you remain in fear of the fabricated enemies that are a threat to our national security.
SO NOW, your immediate reaction to the word “fabricated” was “doesn’t exist”. So you can believe that reality is being denied by someone with a much clearer mind than you possess. But by fabricated I don’t mean to deny existance. I mean to say that our enemies, which are very real, have been created by our aggression, disrespect, and inhumanity, for the purpose of deceit. But you will cling to your distortion, and trembling fear and lack of comprehension in the face of unbearable guilt. You will block out the overwhelming evidence of criminal behaiviour of your beloved leaders, because you are brainwashed. It only works one way from where you stand, the pit of delusion.

By Frank, December 1 at 4:22 am

Obviously a neocon implant. What makes you think a terrorist is a ‘rag head’ camel ridding fanatic? I guess in your world anything wearing a slick business suit carrying a brief case and perfect hair and white wash white teeth is your and my friend. And I assume that the pricks that have taken this country down the economic black hole it is still sinking into is just for shits and giggles and being money it is just ‘aw shucks, we can print some more’.
No it is closed minded people like you that have allowed our home grown terrorists to pull of the biggist heist in history destroying more people’s lives than a poor old fart sitting in a cave could ever hope to do; in fact that old fart is the excuse for the economic terrorists here to get away time and time again with their attacks against the o so special american people who value empty lives and shopping trips more than any kind of real responsibilities.

I suppose this is one reason why there will be 20 thousand soldiers for Homeland Secuity reasons.  Deployed asap!

One thing is for certain, any Islamic terrorist group that uses a WMD in an attack will never get full credit for it, because many leftists, including those on this message board will continue to deny that Islamic terrorism is a reality.

Any WMD attack will be declared a “false flag operation” by the tin foil hat crowd. They will tell themselves and anyone who will listen that it was actually committed by the ‘Neocons/Israel/New World Order/etc”. This much is a foregone conclusion.

Well, considering who will be behind the attack, I reckon so. I mean didn’t the neocons do a beautiful job pulling 9/11 off and ever since have done their best to keep every body afraid? That’s the plan. Go read Orwell’s ‘1984’ and you will essentially be reading the play book of those that want that kind of mental control over the people. All they have to do is make sure that we live in fear forever.
In 2003, Sir Martin Rees(Royal Society Professor at Cambridge University, a Fellow of King’s College, and England’s Astronomer Royal) wrote a book titled ‘Our Final Hour’ in which he gave the world a 50/50 chance or something like that, of the world being devestated by any number of sources such as, terrorists, nature(asteroids, weather,disease), science and probably the most important, the human population, by the end of this century. I think that just like the weather will definitely be a factor as time goes, just about all the other factors mentioned and not mentioned will be a part. But because the human population is so out of whack with a reality of a secure existance that it is a better chance of 50/50 of a major something coming along and killing a lot of people. Trying to save everyone is a fool’s hope and the best anyone can do is try to survive. A congressional panel such as the one mentioned in this post is not what this country or world needs. It is nothing but a fear mongering mob of crackpots trying to disrupt people’s lives. There are far too many insane societies in this planet now, just look at americans.

2013!!! I’m worrying about getting through this year without being declared bankrupt or being arrested for sedition. Bring back the video of the bin Laden with the black beard! At least that was amusing.

By the end of 2013? Wow. So they PTW want to keep the sheeple on edge until then now. I have more important things to worry about, like how to pay the ever rising bills on less money, can we heat the house above 52 degrees this winter, it’s been in the 20’s for 3 weeks now and will Bush really leave the White House Jan 20, 2009?

Besides, from some of the reports from different sources, the world will end December 21, 2012. So you see we all have nothing to worry about it happening by the end of 2013,if they are right we’ll all be gone, unless all the sources are off by 1 year. Bet that makes the end-of-days groups happy.

Let’s list the countries that have the ability to really do harm to anyone….and cross reference it with countries that have the motive…

Hmmm…who could that be?

Let’s see..

USA?
Israel?
UK?
France?
Germany?

Yeah…I’d say so…

I second that, 911truthdotorg. Keep Cheney’s straps tightened in the padded cell and we can all breathe easier.

To Eric Schmitt and other FUD spreaders: GET LOST.

Some other FUD spreaders, from SNL - Biden and Murtha try to blow the race for Senator Obama - the Road to the White House.” http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/road-to-the-white-house/787141/ Aka Crazy Talk.

Gold is for suckers!!  Food, Seeds,Gasoline,medicine,A good Knife, a safe place in the country, Friends you can trust, Etc.,etc. I spent 30 hours on U tube and it changed my out look on our “Political” system. I am Not afraid for myself, I do not feel “Sorry” for YOU! The Children deserve better, I weep Daily for the Children.

The report is additional pressure on Pakistan along with the Mumbai massacre, which might have been a false flag operation.  Some of the terrorists were Britains.  both Bush and Obama are in favor of broadening the Afghan war to Pakistan.  And threatening to dismember Pakistan as was done to the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia.

The only terrorists I’m worried about are the ones running this country and who destroyed the world economy. Al-Qaeda could only have dreamed about doing what the bush crime family has accomplished. Read this and weep:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/3526645/Citigr
oup-says-gold-could-rise-above-2000-next-year-as-world-unravels.html

WMD=WORDS OF MASS DECEPTION