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Bush Speaks of Legacy

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Posted on Nov 28, 2008
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Say what?: “I surrounded myself with good people,” Bush said. “I carefully considered the advice of smart, capable people and made tough decisions.”

Still-President Bush has discussed his legacy with his sister Dorothy Bush Koch as part of a national oral-history project, suggesting the future should remember him for his “liberation” of 50 million people and reluctance to “sell his soul ... to accommodate the political process”—likely referring to that which is outlined in the U.S. Constitution.


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In a personal and wide-ranging interview conducted by his sister about his legacy, his faith and the influence of his father, President George W. Bush said he hopes to be remembered as a liberator of the Iraqi people.

“I’d like to be a president [known] as somebody who liberated 50 million people and helped achieve peace,” Bush told his sister, Dorothy Bush Koch, in a conversation recorded for the oral-history organization StoryCorps for the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress.

“I would like to be a person remembered as a person who, first and foremost, did not sell his soul in order to accommodate the political process,” Bush said, according to White House excerpts.

The president told his sister he is proud of the “tough decisions” he made.

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By hippy pam, December 1, 2008 at 6:41 am Link to this comment

Re-by triggerfinger…..Obviously-You HAVE GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE—-and YOUR HOME/PENSION IS SAFE—-and YOUR KIDS DON’T HAVE TO EAT DOG FOOD[I have a friend that DOES]—-and YOU [probably] LIVE IN A GATED COMMUNITY…..US POOR FOLK OUT HERE DEAL WITH REALITY….YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT!!!

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By Folktruther, November 30, 2008 at 8:52 pm Link to this comment

Bush’s legacy is that he has successfully conducted a political counterrevolution making the president essentially a military dictator and reducing Congress and the Supreme Court to Potemkin institutions.  Or rather he was the front man for an administration that did so.

He is by no means a pollitical moron or incompetent.  He did it so cleverly that there was no oppoisition in the learned and mass media or mainstream political consensus that labeled what he was doing in simple terms, or opposed it on that basis. 

And he locked in Bushite policies to the point where it would take a confrontive apporach to defeat them.  Obama is going to continue and consolidate them.

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By Maani, November 30, 2008 at 4:15 pm Link to this comment

Diamond:

Au contraire!  LOL.  Given that he is as “evil” as you say, he would probably ENJOY watching that video, and even clap and cheer loudly at certain points!

Peace.

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By diamond, November 30, 2008 at 4:07 pm Link to this comment

Jesus! Stop it please! This article made me laugh so much I nearly had to vomit. Legacy? Bush’s legacy is in competition with Hitler’s and since Hitler’s dead Bush may surpass him yet if he lives long enough. They don’t call them the Bush Crime Family for nothing. To have stolen two elections, started two wars (and now on the brink of trying to start a third) while trashing the global economy and having innocent people kidnapped, held unlawfully and tortured for years on end in concentration camps and humiliating America from one side of the world to the other as well as vetoing health care for the poorest children in America is outstanding. Outstandingly horrific. He should be tied to a chair and forced to watch a video collage of his term as president on an endless loop. Now that would be real torture!

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By purplewolf, November 30, 2008 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment

Trigger finger:

You now think that the people of this country and the world that we don’t have to fear anymore?

Where the hell have you been the last 7 years since 9-11? The whole Republican party and media has been trying to incite nothing but fear 24/7 since it happened. Keep them afraid all the time, that way we can do things they will never have time to check on until it is too late. 

Thanks to your “hero”, you have lost more of your rights that you will ever realize, since it is obvious you do not keep up with the little bit of information that has been leaked out through the years, which is nothing compared to what this administration has done against Americans and people of other countries. The types of spying used on every aspect of our lives have made all of us an open book to this group of invaders. Privacy no longer exists. If you think some of the story lines on the X-Files were sci-fi, it is closer to reality than you know. All this spying is not for the benefit is the people, but it is a way to oppress and control the little people, and in this country it has been happening at an accelerated pace the last 7 yrs. and the dumbed down public is totally unaware of it.

Kiss your rights goodbye, as they were taken from you long ago. Think you are safer now? Our military is over exhausted, and there are not enough to ever protect America, how can they when Bush burned them out in all of his wars for oil, which BTW have increased the number of terrorist in the world today, but hey, he doesn’t have to worry because his sorry ass is protected, ours are not. You can thank Bush for that.

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By Maani, November 30, 2008 at 11:34 am Link to this comment

Trigger Finger:

“This is a sad and unfair ridicule of the man who finally spared the earth of that mean man Saddam. You people can say what you want but for sure you don’t have to fear anymore. Your head will never be brought before the terrible man Saddam on a platter. How quickly you all forget his WMD’s and Camels stuffed with grenades and you never had to live with the threat that one of those camels was coming to target your daddy.”

To say you are delusional would be a compliment.  No WMDs were ever found, I have no idea where you came up with “camels stuffed with grenades (!!), and SH was NEVER a threat to the U.S. or U.S. citizens.

I’m not suggesting he was a nice man; he was a murderer and a psychopath.  But that is not good enough reason to invade a sovereign nation in an aggressive, unprovoked and pre-emptive manner, effect a “regime change,” and then hang the elected leader (even if those election WERE fraudulent) in public.

Bush is also a war criminal who saber-rattles at other nations.  How would you like it if, say, Hugo Chavez decided to pre-emptively attack the U.S., rolled into DC, captured the president, and hung HIM in public?  That is EXACTLY what we did.

You need to get your head out of the sand and stop making hopelessly insupportable comments.

Peace.

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By cyrena, November 29, 2008 at 10:48 pm Link to this comment

Airus writes:

“...It’s still burning in my ears what Donna Brazille said one day long ago on CNN about “old Democrats”.. she said “we don’t need you anymore”....”

And…it is so very, very, very, revealing. Indeed Airus, you didn’t even have to tell us that you are ‘no fan of Obama’s’.

I’ve got it now. Only took 3 from you, and we’ve got it.

Meantime, I’m with Shift and most of the rest of the politically conscious. GW’s legacy is that of a murderer and a war criminal. That he must honestly believe he ‘liberated’ 50 million people is either his psychopathy, or just plain evil. The Devil, as Shift also points out, with Hugo Chavez calling it like it is. That is unless he honestly believes torture, and premature death, and living under military occupation is some form of ‘liberation’.
But, I don’t believe that he does. That’s why “Evil Psychopath” is the only legacy he deserves, along with his trail and convictions for war crimes and other Crimes Against Humanity, and Crimes Against the Peace.

Those are just his international crimes. It has already taken volumes to address his crimes against the United States of America, specifically “we the people.”

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By Trigger finger, November 29, 2008 at 6:39 pm Link to this comment
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This is a sad and unfair ridicule of the man who finally spared the earth of that mean man Saddam. You people can say what you want but for sure you don’t have to fear anymore. Your head will never be brought before the terrible man Saddam on a platter. How quickly you all forget his WMD’s and Camels stuffed with grenades and you never had to live with the threat that one of those camels was coming to target your daddy.

So I say “You’ve done a hell of a job, Bushie”, and thanks for taking the bullet for me, so to speak.

I love you Bushie! and thanks to our Supreme Court too cause this would not have been possible without you!

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By Arius, November 29, 2008 at 12:24 pm Link to this comment

”...the future should remember him for his “liberation” of 50 million people and reluctance to “sell his soul ... to accommodate the political process”—likely referring to that which is outlined in the U.S. Constitution.

OUCH!

We can only hope historians will leave their political beliefs behind when they write the true essay of this man’s vulgar manipulation and disregard for the constitution and Bill of Rights.

He’s a fuck up, a moron, he’s insane, he’s incompetent, he’s a religious zealot and he had no business being president of this country.  This bastard should be on trial for treason and thank you America for having the low mental capacity that put this prick into ofc- Thank you for making me embarrassed to be an American for the last 8 years for the 1st time in my life. 

I’m no fan of Obama’s but these last 8 years are an absolute disgrace on (what was once) the integrity of this nation.

The Republican party showed their true ugliness by how they grabbed and held onto power the last 8 years. Then the Democratic Party showed they can play just as dirty and unAmerican in how they handed Obama the nomination after the very first primary was held.  It’s still burning in my ears what Donna Brazille said one day long ago on CNN about “old Democrats”.. she said “we don’t need you anymore”.

Both parties have no shame, no integrity, no honesty.  Both parties do NOT represent the people, they represent corporate interests (and) the interests of their own business, their respective parties. They are an entity, a business, just as any store you walk into are a business, and they don’t give 2 shits about what the American people want and need.

Until Americans stop being illiterate with no ability for comprehension, until they lose their ignorance on civic’s matters, until they stop behaving like flocks of zombies who gravitate to the most charismatic, ego-maniac standing on a pulpit spouting frivolous blatherings of non-specific rhetoric, then nothing will change in this country.

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By Mary Ann McNeely, November 29, 2008 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment
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George W. Bush can now rightly replace The Grim Reaper as the very image of death.  Forget the skeleton wearing the black monk’s robe, carrying a scythe.  The blank, stupid face of Dubya will do it now for all time.

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By hippy pam, November 29, 2008 at 11:30 am Link to this comment

ole bullshits legacy?......Bankrupted the AMERICAN ECONOMY and TREASURY…ALLOWED-YES ALLOWED millions of jobs and trillions of dollars to migrate OUT OF COUNTRY…..WASTED TRILLIONS of DOLLARS and Several THOUSAND YOUNG LIVES while his own children STAYED SAFE….Gave FREE REIN to HIS GOOD FRIENDS so they could STEAL HOMES AND PENSIONS FROM RETIREES…Then GAVE PARDONS AND FREE RIDES to those SAME *SS H*LES….DENIED HEALTH CARE TO CHILDREN…..LIED in order to TAKE US TO WAR….He needs to be stood up against a wall and SHOT-Just as ALL TRAITORS SHOULD BE!!!!!

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By G.Anderson, November 29, 2008 at 9:54 am Link to this comment

Bankrupcy, waste, fraud, lies, deceit…

You took a great nation, and crippled it militarily, and crippled it financially…

like the evil lord Sauron, you legacy is waste and desolation, fear and suffering..

you will be reviled until your last days…

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By GW=MCHammered, November 29, 2008 at 9:45 am Link to this comment
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CLINICAL NARCISSISTIC SWINE
*Okay, I added the last part
But Congress and Behavior Health professionals enabled his abusing nations.

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By msgmi, November 29, 2008 at 8:27 am Link to this comment
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GW’s legacy has no merit either to mankind or the fauna and flora. His legacy is total Incompetence.

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By purplewolf, November 29, 2008 at 12:53 am Link to this comment

Citizen Sam-No he stole both elections.

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By purplewolf, November 29, 2008 at 12:52 am Link to this comment

Bush doesn’t respected other peoples religious beliefs,many military people serving Iraq have been denied this right,as it is not a pre-approved Christian one.

Bush told over 935 lies just to get the US into the Iraq war.The good people he surrounds himself are some of the most vile,corrupt people walking the face of the planet.

Most of the laws he has drawn up have been slipped through during recess,in the middle of the night or as his latest Iraq contract-NO copies were written in English,so what is really in those contracts he is hiding from everyone?

In college,as he has done this whole presidency,he has cheated,lied, gone behind the backs of others, broke the laws and corrupted everything just to try to come out at the winner.Everything America once stood for with pride has been tarnished by his legacy.

He may have been a cheerleader in college,but he certainly is no cheerleader to America.

G.W. has rolled back environmental protection for most the planet just so big business can profit more.

He has failed our military people on all promises like:medical,disability benefits,jobs,housing,education and many other necessities they require.

Censorship has gained big footholds in his 8 years in office.News today is highly censored and what is released to the public has been fabricated by his administration-news article from his 2nd year in office-just after 9-11.He blames networks for not placing a disclaimer that most of the news being broadcast is a gov. fabrication,I still have that news article.

The claim of smaller government and personal privacy not so,government under Bush has grown like a malignant cancer.Non curable and out of control.Our phone calls,emails and other means of communication are spied upon,the library books you check out or books you buy are recorded by his smaller less intrusive government.Spy cameras are popping up on light poles at intersections all across America.Don’t believe it,look up next time you are waiting at stoplights and start counting.Just like in the movie “Enemy of the State.”

You rights to your private reproductive choices are denied on a daily basis by his religious overtones. If life is a gift from God(unborn only)why it is fine to destroy life once born in his ego trip wars?

As for treating all people as equals.HAH! As G.W. said in the documentary:Bush’s Brain”,this is my base,the haves and the have mores,the countries richest people.The middle class and the poor do not even exist in HIS world.

As for tough decisions,a tough decision would be deciding which side of the toilet paper to use to wipe himself.

Liberator? Only of other peoples lives,freedoms, rights,jobs,homes,money and their health,just to start with.

This is the same Bush who has made public comments since 1996 that America would be so much easier to run if it were a dictatorship, ]with him as the dictator of course.Saying this in the 1950’s would have meant the rest of your life in a federal pen as a traitor.

He has destroyed America,just as he did every business he ever had owned and someone else always bailed his sorry ass out,but amazingly it was never his father.

NCLB?A failure,just like G.W.
We lag far behind many other countries in the world that spend less time in school and less money educating their students and have a much better success rate. 

The infrastructure crumbling while this government has ignored it for the last 8 years.

If he leaves office-it hasn’t happened yet,Obama,as well as the majority of Americans can thank his for his years of DISSERVICE to this country,it’s people and the world.

Legacy? Not in this lifetime or any other for that matter.

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By Citizen Sam, November 28, 2008 at 11:35 pm Link to this comment

He was re-elected.

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By Citizen Sam, November 28, 2008 at 11:31 pm Link to this comment

Obviously he is upset over being excluded in all of the recent SNL hype and is now writing his own comedy material.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 28, 2008 at 9:05 pm Link to this comment

troublesum, November 28 at 6:03 pm #

And as Bush leaves office on Jan 20th, Obama will thank him for his great service to the nation.
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Of course he will. As he should. It has nothing to do with how horribly ill George W. Bush has served this nation, but something far more important. 

Don’t you know what that is?

For 220 years, we have lived under our Constitution, power has transferred peacefully from one President to another, according to Law. Frequently, that power has shifted from one party to another, yet it is transferred peacefully and according to Law.

It is in that peaceful transition that our nation is at its greatest. And, as a final recognition of that transfer, the person receiving it thanks the person relinquishing it, because, up until that moment, we NEVER know if it will, in fact, be transferred.

And, if George W. Bush does follow in the footsteps of the 34 times his predecessors who survived relinquished power, at that moment I will not begrudge him Obama’s thanks.

But the next day his sorry @$$ should be indicted for all his myriad crimes.

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By edensasp, November 28, 2008 at 8:21 pm Link to this comment
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Freeing 50 million people by systematically executing them via a military strike and occupation isnt a legacy of hope & prosperity…Its genocide.

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By knute, November 28, 2008 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment
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The liberation of 50 Million people ? Where the hell is that coming from ? He’s directly responcible for the death of atleast a million and the displacement of a few million more, but to claim credit for liberating anyone ? What a dillusional cartoon charachter he is.

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By troublesum, November 28, 2008 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment

And as Bush leaves office on Jan 20th, Obama will thank him for his great service to the nation.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 28, 2008 at 5:48 pm Link to this comment

About a year before he died, William F. Buckley was asked in an interview what he thought Bush’s legacy would be. “Mr. Conservative” sniffed and said coldly and disdainfully, “George Bush has no legacy.”

George, when you are in a hole, stop digging.

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By Maani, November 28, 2008 at 3:47 pm Link to this comment

Hesperion:

“He surrounded himself with ideological minions and people that recognized his lack of human conscience and ethics knowing they could use him to forward radical causes that no trustworthy leader would have allowed. This is why every right-wing maniac and fascist suddenly appeared out of the shadows. This is why the neocons…grabbed power and gained traction with their ill-conceived imperial, militaristic America dogma which had long been discredited. This is why O’Reilly, Coulter, Limbaugh, and the like suddenly flourished, licensed to spew their supremacist, anti-republic, rhetoric. This is why false-religionists and wealthy televangelists rallied, suddenly empowered to promote their ‘culture wars’ on the majority of us and move to emplace a theocratic presence in our nation - a nation which had valued separation of church and state while respecting religious freedom…These are the people that brainwashed millions to actually find ‘community organizers’ laughable. The list of perversions of reality could go on and on.”

Hear, hear!  Brilliantly defined!

Peace.

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By Hesperion, November 28, 2008 at 3:27 pm Link to this comment

His sister was enlisted to do this farce since there is probably no one else who can write and spell who would not be induced to vomit or to laugh out loud as such massive self-delusion.

Anything of benefit that he accomplished is merely imaginary in his own head. His convoluted logic and confused interpretations of events and outcomes will not be missed. The nation will feel like it has recovered from a long migraine headache when his voice ceases to be inserted abrasively into serious matters where an adult is really needed. He is like a spoiled child in his thinking. 

“I surrounded myself with good people,” Bush said. “I carefully considered the advice of smart, capable people and made tough decisions.”

He surrounded himself with ideological minions and people that recognized his lack of human conscience and ethics knowing they could use him to forward radical causes that no trustworthy leader would have allowed. This is why every right-wing maniac and fascist suddenly appeared out of the shadows. This is why the neocons (that had been regarded as “the crazies” in saner times) grabbed power and gained traction with their ill-conceived imperial, militaristic America dogma which had long been discredited. This is why O’Reilly, Coulter, Limbaugh, and the like suddenly flourished, licensed to spew their supremacist, anti-republic, rhetoric. This is why false-religionists and wealthy televangelists rallied, suddenly empowered to promote their “culture wars” on the majority of us and move to emplace a theocratic presence in our nation A nation which had valued separation of church and state while respecting religious freedom (not domination). These are the people that brainwashed millions to actually find “community organizers” laughable. The list of perversions of reality could go on and on.

Everyone needs to see the movie “W”. It has more truthful insight than this man’s own self-interested fantasies every will.

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By Maani, November 28, 2008 at 3:16 pm Link to this comment

lawlessone:

“I wonder if the families of the 3000 killed on 9/11 have any regrets cheering Bush’s flag waving on the rubble since we now know the event was due in significant part to his ignoring overt warnings…”

...or possible direct complicity…

As for his claimed “reluctance to sell his soul,” one cannot sell what one does not have…LOL.

Peace.

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By Spike, November 28, 2008 at 2:51 pm Link to this comment

Let this psychotic puppet discuss his future as he dangles from the Hangman’s rope.

Bush and all those who used him should be punished by death.

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By Shift, November 28, 2008 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment

Bush is a war criminal and a murderer.  Unfortunately Hugo Chavez seems to be the only person with the character and courage to stand up to Bush and call him what he is, a devil.

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By scared, November 28, 2008 at 1:21 pm Link to this comment

What an amazing level of denial and delusion.  The fact that this man’s perception of himself over the past 8 years is that he “helped achieve peace” is truly terrifying.

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By GWAndersen, November 28, 2008 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment
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First, you have to have one to sell!
Second, while he may not have sold “his” soul, he sold a lot of other peoples Souls!

Liberated 50 million people?? If Iraq falls in the next few years (and it probably will) bush and the pundits will say it was the dems fault.  If it succeeds they wail say bush get the credit.  The republican political officials are crafty bastards who care less for the American people than event the democratic leaders.

Heck, recently I heard a conservative reporter say the reason we have a crashed economy is due to the Clinton amin??  And on the same day I heard the wack-o right wing Rush Limbaugh say this, “the economy” is an Obama recession and it will surely become an Obama depression”??  What are going to skip 8 years of bush???

No one will stand up and take responsibility anymore.  Public gain and spin on a population of sound bite sheep is the goal.  What an embarrassment to the once proud USA.

While I am confident Obama will do a fantastic job, even if for some reason he fell on his face, he would still probably do a better job than Bush.

While Obama has a difficult job, (cleaning up after King George and the republican radical right), he at least has small shoes to fill.

Sincerely,

Proud to be an American, but lately embarrassed!

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By dsmith, November 28, 2008 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
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How exactly did he free fifty million people?

Well, after five years of war with a two trillion dollar price tag(according to a prize winning economist), 4500 hundred American soldiers killed along with 30,000 wounded…many permanently disfigured, reportedly fifty thousand military families have broken up or have been damaged because of constant re-deployments, two million Iraqis displaced, over one million Iraqis dead/wounded, rampant ethnic cleansing of the Sunni population by the Shi’ite government, one hour of electricity a day, the looting of Iraqi oil, the staining of our country’s honor by being associated with inhumane torture,and after all of this, Bush once again declares “Mission Accomplished!”

Heck of a job…Bushie!

Oh..Laura Bush is the modern day Eva Braun.

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By lawlessone, November 28, 2008 at 11:08 am Link to this comment
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George Bush may have no regrets, but we sure do.
       
  Earlier this monthe, Bush told CNN he “regrets” some wild overstatements like “Mission Accomplished” and utterly juvenile utterances like “Bring it on!”  Of course, it is only a few regrets, tiny ones.  His only acknowledged regrets seem to be of the “sorry I got caught” variety, but that at least is up from earlier responses to reporters in which he could think of none except for perhaps a personnel decision or two. 

  Since Bush apparently has little or no regret for the havoc and harm he caused, I wonder if the 5 Republican Justices who usurped the Florida election in 2000 have any regrets for handing him in power to do it.

  I wonder if the families of the 3000 killed on 9/11 have any regrets cheering Bush’s flag waving on the rubble since we now know the event was due in significant part to his ignoring overt warnings.

  I wonder if the 96% of the country who once said they favored the President and his policies are now embarrassed and regret ever having been so mislead, often by deliberate lies.

  I wonder if the families of the thousands of soldiers killed and tens of thousands maimed mentally and physically in trumped up wars, wars started basically for Bush’s ego, regret his catastrophes committed while playing at being warrior-in-chief.

  I wonder if the families of future terrorist attacks will regret all the thousands of new terrorists created by through Bush’s indiscriminate bombings, pre-emptive invasions, illegal torturings, uncaring impoverishments, and deliberate emasculations.

  I wonder if the millions here and abroad who have lost their jobs, their savings, and their homes to his disastrous financial policies and greed have any regrets.

  I wonder if those whose lives are shortened due to his degradation of health care, prevention of scientific research and environmental protection will have any regrets.

  I wonder if this country’s children and grandchildren and great grandchildren who will have to pay the enormous debt he piled up will have regrets about their forebearers who so foolishly voted for Bush.

  It is sad that a child of privilege and entitlement like Bush seems to have learned nothing at all despite his minuscule number of admitted “regrets.”  As evidenced by his comments, he is obviously blind or indifferent to the astonishingly massive destruction he has wrought, sometimes directly, sometimes not.  Unfortunately, he still seems incapable of ever growing up or gaining wisdom. 

  Even more worrisome, the most prominent among his followers like Palin, Romney, Huckabee, and Giuliani, who hope someday to replace him, seem to have no regrets about what has happened over the last eight years other than they lost an election.  As the sages say, you can never cure a problem until you finally admit you have one.

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