I don’t know much about Mbeki, but I do no something about Duesberg. If you are intellectually curious, you should check out the website of this Berkeley professor with decades of experience in microbiology and the study of viruses in general, and retroviruses in particular.

In my opinion, Duesberg is right.

Regarding so-called “African AIDS”, it is difficult to see why we even call it AIDS, since the set of symptoms and diseases are quite different from those in America. How does the same retrovirus cause two remarkably different sets of symptoms? Hmmmm?

Immune deficiency in Africa probably is, as Mbeki says, caused by poverty and malnutrition. In America, it is more typically caused by recreational drug use and other immune-system-compromising behaviors.

Big Pharma has a vested interest in the “HIV as sole cause of AIDS” hypothesis. If this remains the orthodoxy, they can continue to sell their expensive and highly toxic retroviral drugs.

By the way, Duesberg points out that many of these toxic drugs have the side effect of CRASHING THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. Many of the so-called anti-AIDS drugs may actually be causing AIDS.

Mbeki is to be complimented for daring to challenge the allegedly “scientific” orthodoxy.

Check out http://www.Duesberg.com

what are the ‘seven signs’, seems some mortals have anointed themselves the ‘Almighty’.
Famine, War, pestulence, Drought/floods,plague, Injustice. If you are waiting for the Four Horseman to ride into the Middle of the ‘village’....You’ve fallen into their trap of distractions.
First Hosreman is Organized Heirachial Religions
The Second is oppressive Gov’ts
The Third is the Industry which not only control resources,& their costs, But also the means to destroy that which produced the Resources.
And Finally all ‘organizations’ must have their Propagandaists,their person ‘Town Criers’ to not only pursuade people, but distract them from reality.
so while you have been Playing Sentry staring off towards the Hillsides, they have slipped into the seats of Power.
These ‘Horseman’ are Not coming nor did they just arrive, they have been hiding within our midst the entire time.
When Brick & Mortar rules, oppresses and Controls Those who developed them, that will be the Doom of Humanity- and we are Damn close to it AGAIN!There has been an Intentional concerted effort to return to the ‘Dark Ages’ when humanity was subserviant to the Brick & Mortar.what’s the differnce between a Family Crest and a Logo…Nothing. Whats the difference between killing people and allowing them to die….Not much..Same result just less evidential blood accumulated on your hands.
Saint John was not prophecizing about the Future, he was Living it and knew these ‘Horsemen’ will plague humanity until WE return them to their place with in OUR Stewardship toolbox.What is Gov’t without citizens, What is Industry without Workers and customers, What is Religion without followers, what is Communication if no one is willing to listen…Nothing.

Neither Thabo Mbeki, or G.W. Bush, will ever be held accountable for the rape, pillage and murder that they have caused during their presidencies. They will never lose the pensions that they accrued in office. They will never feel the pain they have caused to the people they have hurt, the families whose grief is inconsolable because of their lack of compassion and the overall society that has lost, because of the greedy and avaricious natures of these two men.
Surely, there must be some justice, but it will never happen in this world.
There is no one coming after them, who will have the intestinal fortitude to hold these men accountable for the misdeeds and criminal activity that has occurred when Thabo Mbeki and G.W. Bush were presidents. These two men have done the worst they could do to their respective countries and yet we still stand, scathed and burned, still fighting the fights that brought these men into office and yet we are still here.
There is still hope if you are still breathing. But hope will be in short supply for the next few years as the global financial crisis unfolds and the people are the ones who suffer the worst of this awful and horrific time. Should anyone say, that they
have the answer and it not include breaks for the working class and poor then please do not listen to them as they are the ones who have caused the problem
in the first place and care not one whit whether you the little person have food on your table or a roof over your head, or clothes to wear. Granted these people may lose 5 or 10 million dollars, but to them that is chump change and nothing short of losing everything will cause them to rethink their strategies for dealing with this crisis.
We must pull together as one, for we are one, fight the fatcats in places of power and take control of the respective governments again. Power to the people.

Either way this report suggests that “U.S. researchers” care about South Africans. The comment should read “... US paramedical companies in an effort to sell more drugs and force a slow painful death on South Africans have accused former South African President Thabo Mbeki…”

And our OUTGOING PRESIDENT-G.W.bullshit is RESPONSIBLE for ????how many deaths by genocide?????-Who is going to HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE???????