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Posted on Nov 25, 2008
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Multiple news outlets, from ABC to Fox, now confirm that Robert Gates will retain his post as secretary of defense for at least the first year of the Obama administration. The president-elect will roll out Gates and his other hawks during a national security team unveiling next week.

At that time, Obama is expected to announce Hillary Clinton as his secretary of state and retired Gen. James Jones as his national security adviser.


The Politico:

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has agreed to stay on under President-elect Barack Obama, according to officials in both parties. Obama plans to announce a national-security team early next week that includes Gates at the Pentagon and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) as secretary of state, officials said.

Retired Marine Gen. James Jones, former Marine commandant and commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Europe, will be named national security adviser, the officials said.

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By Folktruther, November 26, 2008 at 11:08 am Link to this comment

Jackpine, I suggest myself as Sec as Defense, although I know nothing whatever about the Pentagon. I would appoint people who do who are committed to de-militarizing the US, and defunding military programs. 

There would be a likelihood that we would be assassinated of course, but this is not because I am grossly inexperienced, but because of the policies espoused.  Your identification with Realism in power affairs is an identification with Business As Usual.

What you object to about leftists is that they want to change power relations historically, while you are committed to keeping them the same.

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By KDelphi, November 26, 2008 at 9:47 am Link to this comment

jackpine savage—Chuck Hagel woudl be better. Max Cleland.(He’s used to being chewed on).Hell, even Colin Powell (I didnt know thzt he woudl be using Bush’s people).

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By Little Brother, November 26, 2008 at 7:49 am Link to this comment

The online NY Times article began with this sentence:

“President-elect Barack Obama has decided to keep Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates in his post, a show of bipartisan continuity in a time of war that will be the first time a Pentagon chief has been carried over from a president of a different party, Democrats close to the transition said Tuesday.”
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I quickly scanned the article, which quotes various sources supporting this premise, but I didn’t see a direct quote explicitly citing “bipartisan continuity in a time of war”. 

We’re at “war”?  The only “war” I’m aware of is the mythical, fictitious “Global War on Terror” declared by outgoing President Unitard and his moribund criminal maladministration. 

Oh, that’s right—Obama piously latched on to this concept and affirmed it during his campaign.  It was evidence of his “pragmatic” brilliance, because of the received wisdom that the lizard-brained troglodytic masses, fka the Silent Majority, must be fully reassured and comforted by the certainty that our President is, first and foremost, a competent and enthusiastic Warlord who will Protect Us from enemies—even, maybe especially, ephemeral and imaginary foes.

Surely the erudite and intellectual new Commander-in-Chief is perfectly aware that this Orwellian “we have always been at war with Eastasia” subterfuge is just that.  I guess Daddy thinks it’s best to wait until he’s safely elected to his second term before breaking the news to the troubled and fearful masses.

Pragmatism!  Is there anything it CAN’T solve?

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By jackpine savage, November 26, 2008 at 6:43 am Link to this comment

Well then, let’s hear some ideas for Sec of Defense?

Fallon is out because he needs to have been outside of military service for at least two years.

An unrepentant liberal sent in to “change” the DoD would be eaten alive.  That bureaucracy is the worst in the world.  Clinton made one early misstep (two if you count not dressing down the sailor who didn’t salute him) and never regained control of the Pentagon.

Gates was/is critical of the Iraq occupation.  He, apparently, put the breaks on plans for Iran. He’s recently said that the DoD can accomplish what Obama wants.  He’s called for cutting the budget.  And he’s respected by both the general staff and the enlisted troops.

Maybe the far left hasn’t noticed, but the military isn’t much for ‘change’, and it has an enormous ability to dig in its heels.

So i’ll say it again, instead of bitching offer up some other, workable, possibilities.  The only choice that would make the leftest of the left happy is someone who would fail miserably…but i’m beginning to think that abject failure is the fuel of the left. 

Though it is somewhat humorous to watch people bump around their ivory towers and piss and moan until they’re blue in the face.

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By driving bear, November 26, 2008 at 5:11 am Link to this comment

In the timeless words of the song by the WHO ” meet the new boss, same as the old boss” ; what more is there to say

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By Fainstadt, November 26, 2008 at 4:36 am Link to this comment
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Obama, Rezko’s pal, remains loyal to his friends. Money money and more money. C’mon this guy is as far from Change as - hmmmm you name it. Fool me once is what Bush said and he was right. The walls are crumbling and Caesar may yet cross the Rubicon and enter Rome.

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By KDelphi, November 25, 2008 at 11:44 pm Link to this comment

Anarpeace—Join the club. Most who arent reverant enough of the duopolic process end up banned from alot of sites.

I guess they think that , to win they should follow the same path as the neo-conservatives. They are now neo-liberals.

It worked—for now. It did for the neo-cons for eight years. But, ethe Dems have totally abandoned their traditional base, as well as freedom of speech!. I doubt that the “new” “dems for Obama only” will hang around long , once they see how conservative he is.Maybe they will form a new, more progressive party?

But, censoring speech never works in the long run.

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By Anarpeace, November 25, 2008 at 10:45 pm Link to this comment
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I thought this was a fantastic title, for an article, and decided to post it as a new member on DU. I remember being a liberal in college, and protesting all around these war hawks.

As soon as; the admins looked at the article becoming popular; they trashed it and banned me. Like I really give a shit; Democrats have been doing this to me for the last 30 years, even when I was a liberal Democrat.

Now, I’m a liberal with no party.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7926782

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By KDelphi, November 25, 2008 at 10:32 pm Link to this comment

I wasnt “fooled”—I just did it because, it made someone else happy, and, I knew it didnt make any fricking difference, anyway.

The system IS broken, and , we need to do something about it. Supporting the duopoly any longer, is just to remain in delusion.

I should talk! Before I read this, I was still “hoping” (lol) for Chuck Hagel!

I’m a dumbass…it just doesnt matter.

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By Anonymous, November 25, 2008 at 9:42 pm Link to this comment
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Obama…are you listening? The people who elected you are collectively shuddering at your caving in the Bush Administration even before you are sworn in as President. I hope this is nothing more than a publicity stunt to appease crazy neo-cons. If you want proof, read what Ray McGovern says about Gates:  http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/11/20-3

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By Fadel Abdallah, November 25, 2008 at 8:30 pm Link to this comment

This is another installment of the “change we count on” according to candidate Obama!!

The only thing that will remain as a permanent truth is that the more things change, the more they stay the same, if they don’t get worse!

Now you can clearly tell that Obama was an illusion that lasted for the two lengthy and expensive years of the campaign, pursuing to enter the club of the political elites who only care about getting into that club at any cost!

To me, the American political and economic system is corrupted beyond any hope for repair! This is my final verdict which I state with too much pain and disappointment!

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By Folktruther, November 25, 2008 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment

Obama is going to serve the thrid term of Bush, so it is natural to keep on his Security leaders like Gates and Jones.  Jones proved himself a reliable Zionist by his apppointment to aide the Seucrity of Israel.

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By Brett, November 25, 2008 at 6:31 pm Link to this comment
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Change we can believe in?  I hope all of you that were fooled into voting Obama are happy.

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