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Posted on Nov 12, 2008
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LA Times / Rick Loomis

The high-powered sonar used in Navy training exercises off the Southern California coast was justified by Chief Justice John Roberts as being in the “public interest.” The ruling will allow training to be conducted under what Roberts termed “realistic conditions.”

While some whales’ hearts are as big as cars, the hearts on the Supreme Court that ruled Wednesday against a ban on high-powered sonar in Navy training exercises must be shrinking by the minute. The decision was a defeat to environmentalists, who argue that sonar panics whales, makes their ears bleed and pushes them to beach themselves.


The L.A. Times:

The U.S. Supreme Court dealt a defeat to environmentalists today and cleared the way for the Navy to use high-powered sonar off the Southern California coast even if it poses a threat to whales and other marine mammals.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts said the Navy needs to train its crews to detect enemy submarines, and it cannot be forced to turn off its sonar when whales are spotted nearby. “The public interest in conducting training exercises with active sonar under realistic conditions plainly outweighs” the concerns voiced by environmentalists, he said for a 5-4 majority.

Roberts faulted judges in California for “second-guessing” the views of Navy leaders. “Where the public interest lies does not strike us as a close question,” he said.

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By Philip, November 13, 2008 at 3:19 am Link to this comment
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This is Not a defeat for the environment this is horrible tragedy for WHALES! If humans harm other humans with violence we don’t say that is a defeat for the environment. The same shallow thinking that goes into claiming a defeat for the environment when living individuals will be harmed is the same type of thinking that causes this cruelty to take place…. in the first place.

Philip

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By P. T., November 12, 2008 at 9:12 pm Link to this comment

The military-industrial complex’s contempt for the environment is a threat to international security.

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By KDelphi, November 12, 2008 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment

There is a petition at Greenpeace to ask Obama to attend the global warming summit in Poland, himself, officially.

He had told them that he woudl send a representaive.

I realize he has alot to deal with—but I think it is good to make it clear early, that we DO care about these issues, even as we struggle with the rest.

Thanks.

http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start/218/

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By shelle, November 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm Link to this comment
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This is just dis-gust-ing.  We are putting fear in place of compassion.  This is on a par with the navy using dolphins as part of the war effort.  Thankfully Obama may have some input into these conservative, pro-war “supreme” court curmudgeons.  Whales are the most magnificent animals on this whole planet—and that includes humans. 
This is worse than a shame—it is a SIN.

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By samosamo, November 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm Link to this comment

Congradulations are in order for the Supreme Court. Man, if they had not shut down this attempt to prevent tracking all those terrorist’s boats and submarines speeding their way at this very instant to attack america again but this time with nuclear weapons with a mix of biological and chemical weapons thrown in for good measure.
STILL spewing the fear factor and fuck the environment.

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By Super-Cavitation, November 12, 2008 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment
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The Navy has consistently denied that sonar use is linked to whale deaths.  But the problem is that no one’s asking the right question.  The right question is “Does super-cavitation cause whale deaths?”  The answer is hell yes. It causes a whole lot more than that.  Super-cavitation is a scary WMD.  If you have any doubts, ask yourself “if they had it would they use it?”  Think atomic bomb.

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By KDelphi, November 12, 2008 at 1:41 pm Link to this comment

Not a surprise, but a huge disappointment.

I’ve seen it happen—they beach. They cant communicate anymore.

If people think that they will get much different rulings on environmental matters, I’m afraid they wil be disappointed by the bi-partisan approved Justice Roberts Court.

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By Allan Gurfinkle, November 12, 2008 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment
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Obama can end the sonar testing on Jan. 20.

Will he?

It seems to me the ‘progressives’ should be making a list of things Obama should do and when, and planning what to do if he doesn’t.

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