samosamo: ’...From all the scuttlebutt it seems the private contractors and maybe some real troops are being preped and stationed throughout america to handle an up rising….’

As I said before, any sort of coup would probably lead to serious public disturbances and even civil war.  And its outcome would be unpredictable.  The putschists might have to fight, and if they lost, they might well be tried for treason, a capital crime.  But you’ll notice that many of the people who might be involved in promoting a coup are chicken hawks—people who favor war but avoided personal military service.  They are probably basically too cowardly to run the risks of combat and the death penalty if captured.  So even if they are thinking evil thoughts of this kind, it is my hope they will be afraid to do the evil deeds.

By Anarcissie, October 22 at 12:49 pm

Remember w’s emergency powers directive? That was not drawn up and sneaked into a bill and signed into law for nothing. And did you ever consider that the neocons WANT something like this to happen? From all the scuttlebutt it seems the private contractors and maybe some real troops are being preped and stationed throughout america to handle an up rising from citizens tired as hell of all the ‘elitist’ shenanigans that have been perpetrated. I would say keep your eyes open and have a plan because there is supposedly a little more than 2 more months of w & dick in office.

That’s the spirit that will stop them!  You rock, rylly!

Obama is not going to allow this election to be stolen.  If it is, he will stand up and challenge.
Surely that was one of the first considerations his camp had to deal with, so they have a contingency plan.
After a-l-l-l his planning and hard work, not for a minute will Obama walk away like Gore or Kerry. 
We won’t let him.
We will stand behind him until he gets his proper office, no matter what.
He will stand with us.

There are tens of millions of armed citizens in the United States.  An obviously stolen election would lead to serious public disturbances, and possibly to civil war.  I don’t think it’s going to be up to the great leaders this time.  It will just happen.  And if the perpetrators lose, they could be charged with treason, a capital crime.  I profoundly hope anyone contemplating electoral fraud or some other form of coup will come to their senses.

As we rally people for the final election push and to block an election theft, we need also to be thinking about how to respond to a stolen election - or worse - should it occur.

This is an extraordinarily dangerous moment in our history. The economic crisis raises the stakes considerably, and those capitalists who have staked their fortunes on the financial markets or the Empire are starting to panic. An Obama win could mean prosecution and prison for many in the Bush Administration.

And it is becoming clear that they’re losing. Barring some kind of dramatic event, McCain won’t even be close enough to Obama to make his win seem plausible. That however may not stop them from stealing the election anyway - or worse. All the evidence indicates that the Bush family and their cohorts have been thinking and talking about these things and making preparations; and it’s their move. It may very well be that they are sufficiently held in check now that they can’t take their move, but we have no way of knowing if this is so.

We can hope that Obama would give us the leadership we would need in such a crisis, but Gore rolled over, and Kerry rolled over, and we would be fools to count on Obama.

It is however foreseeable that the people will be different this time!

If Obama asks the people to just go home and stay calm and trust the system, perhaps people would do what he says, but what would we, the progressives, do when he says “go home” and the people don’t?

In fact that probably wouldn’t work this time. There are too many people too charged up and primed to react; there will be no sitting at home in stunned silence this time! So who then could take up the leadership of the people in challenging the usurpers and defending our Constitution? Without a well-known and trusted national figure - supported by a broad coalition of organizations - taking the leadership of the protests, articulating their goals and coordinating them, the resulting chaos would feed right into Bush’s trap. We would need to be ready to support Obama’s leadership if he gives it, but someone would need to be ready to take it up if he didn’t. There would either be a disciplined response - or mayhem. And Bush is ready for mayhem, probably even counting on it!

One name that comes to mind is Jesse Jackson. He has the moral authority, the courage, the connections and the experience to take this on - but I doubt he would feel he could buck Obama now. McKinney doesn’t have the name recognition or the strategic wisdom needed. Ralph Nader has the name recognition and the courage, but he’s too discredited with Obama’s base to be a unifying figure. Perhaps Dennis Kucinich? Michael Moore? John Conyers?

Whomever it is would want to keep calling on Obama to come back to the fray and be the leader that we elected him to be!

And unfortunately we have to also consider that we might lose Obama, which would confront us with a situation that is undefined in the Constitution and ripe for Bush/McCain to exploit. My ear to the ground suggests that all Hell could break loose in the neighborhoods if that happens. What would we do? Who could step forward quickly, command the peoples’ attention, both Black and white, articulate our feelings and unite us around goals and a commitment to disciplined and responsible action? In this instance, probably Jackson or some leader from within the Democratic establishment would step forward, and we would need to unify the people behind them while pushing them to stay in front of the people.

These are things we need to be thinking and talking about, now, if we haven’t already. People who are close to national figures need to be discussing these things with them, nudging them to reach out to each other quickly and come to a consensus.

Meanwhile we must deal McCain a crushing defeat at the polls!

Well, yeah! The neocon/conservative/republicans are masters at throwing elections and they are not about to just let the hold on power slip away so easily. Expect SNAFU and expect these thugs to protest the most as they have long forgotten how to ‘win’ an election instead of stealing an election just as card shark who knows how to stack the deck but makes playing real odds at straight poker less inviting for him/her.
Go look at the Rep. Bachman’s tirade on Hardball and see what is in store. I haven’t seen a harpy such as her with that spiel which is equal or even out does what ever palin has said, well, maybe the same, just 2 different slants.

If their State’s election experiences easily foreseeable and Avoidable ‘Glitches’
Being from MI I hold not only my state Dem leaders accountable for the MI Primary ClusterF*ck,But the Sec of State who aided them.
there is no doubt in my mind that the MI state Party leaders encouraged the Date change because it would ultimatley benefit Hillary Clinton (Your buddy on the Armed Services Committee,Carl).And I am just as convinced the Repug Sec of State was in absolutel agreement on assisting them in this rigging. Who would have solidified the Republican base better than Hillary? Iknow plenty of Women who hated Hillary long before her disgraceful Campaign tactics this Year. She has since increased the Dessenter numbers, I am Now amongst their ranks.
The Voter Fraud, caging, slams, ballot skewing are all Acts against the State. They are Attacks upon the Democratic process and should be prosecuted as Such. what is More Treasonous than tampering with the basic tennent of a Democracy.
This Decades long Theft of our Fundemental right will only cease if People are held Directly,Criminally Responsible, and Punishment is severe and swift.
What is at the Heart of Our American Values…all Men are created equal and all men therefore have a Voice. By misrepresenting, mis informing, blocking or denying the right to vote A person is commiting the Highest of crimes in a True Demcoracy.

This election has the potential to make 2000 look organized? Wow! Truly mind-boggling!

But hey, when the only way you can “win” is to CHEAT, you have to look at the times it almost didn’t work and improve on your corruption ... right? Right. And speaking of right, the republican party, AKA, the RNC and the GOP has given the word “right” a bad reputation. Which apparently doesn’t bother the loyal rabble that supports their “campaign” of hate and lies!

I heard on this mornings news, a black bear cub, shot through the head was found in North Carolina, covered with Obama posters!

http://washingtonscandal.blogspot.com/2008/10/black-bear-cub-murdered-in-racist.html

Sick, sick, sick!

Rush and Palin and McCain and all the spin doctors on FOX have degenerated into a pack of hyenas, waiting for the body to die, so they can scavenge on the rotting flesh.

I hope every thinking person out there remembers for a long, long time what hate and prejudice looks like, when encouraged by so-called leaders. If McCain ever had the reputation of being fair and honest and some kind of a Maverick ... he has lost it forever!

He will be remembered as the man who sank down to the level of race-baiting and hate filled lies, thinking that would make him appear presidential. Is that how low the republicans really regard the presidents office? What kind of person sees that behavior as winning? Certainly not a real winner!

And just like the Bush who kisses him on the forehead, his legacy has been destroyed forever, no matter how this campaign ends! And he can thank Palin and the vile creatures who fan her equally vile hate-filled rhetoric for that! And he can thank himself, for allowing the worst of the worst to shape his image.

And if that doesn’t tell the world what kind of a leader he is, [absolutely NOT in control] nothing will!

And one other thought. We send observers to third world nations to monitor and make sure the elections are honest. Why not here? After all, thanks to Bush and republican leadership, we have become a third world nation, and the world knows our elections are questionable at best, rife with corruption at worst.

I for one would like to see a deligation from the UN monitor our elections. Particularly in those areas we know have cheated in the past!