Although I happen to be the longtime chairman of the SOUTHRN CALIFORNIA COMMITTEE TO STAMP OUR PRAYER!, a small but inactive group, if people want to pray alone or in groups, we defend their right to do so.  Of course.  Some people contemplate, some meditate, some pray. Big deal. 

Children have imaginary playmates and it doesn’t seem to do them any harm.  If people want to believe in imaginary gods as friends when they are adults, so what.  As long as their gods do not demand the oppression of others, they are all part of life’s rich pageant.

http://southerncrossreview.org/62/obama-newyorker.htm

LindaP wrote, in part “I am a person with a very close relationship with God, and I pray throughout each and every day. These are conversations with God who I speak with like a daughter to a Father.”

Might I suggest, LindaP, that you examine the cost-benefit of the time you spend in prayer? I mean, of all the things you pray to happen, how many actually turn out the way you pray? Unless more than 5 out of 10 do, you’re wasting your time praying, because 5 out of 10 would happen, on average, whether you prayed or not. (We won’t even get into an examination of the outrageous arrogance it must take for you to assume that “God” - the owner/operator of all things - gives a rat’s ass what YOU want.)

There are those who will suggest that praying does no harm. I disagree. Prayer - talking to an invisible god - an imaginary friend - is a gigantic waste of time… and we all know that time is money… so therefore it’s a waste of money! Wasting either is a SIN.

It’s my opinion and view that you don’t speak to your God as “daughter to Father” - you LEAN on this socially acceptable dependency trip instead of GROWING UP, STANDING ON YOUR OWN TWO FEET, and actually ACCOMPLISHING/CONTRIBUTING SOMETHING WORTHWHILE. Your relationship to your God is “little whining girl to big, imaginary authority figure.” It’s very sad.

O Merciful God! Please send the True Jesus back to earth and make him land in America this time, so he can see, witness and fight the hypocrites and the evil ones who have sold Christ’s noble teachings for a trifling worldly gain!

I find the hypocrisy of the right wing religious extremists absolutely amazing.  There’s a 42 page (and counting) thread about Republican hypocrites and right wing religious pedophiles at this site: http://tvnewslies.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1511

Have your barf bag handy if you visit the link.

I had to Pinch myself to assure I hadn’t fallen asleep. Not from Biden, but from the Mental Gymnastics required to keep up with Sarahs tangential incoherent ramblings.Bu tthat one DID catch my attention- the Chrisitan extremeist must have shit their pants!Next she might support preventive Birth Control and Education- since her way did nothing to avoid her daughter’s pregnancy!
Honestly I found myself conversing, instead of listening to her responses. When her lenghty retort boiled down to ‘And Such’ listening closely is not Required- Kind of like a Soap Opera, can stop watching for months, years and come back and be caught up in about a day!Storyline is just about as ‘Deep’ and Believeable as the one they Wrote For Sarah.
Please those who are trying to be ‘Fair’ regarding her Performance last night are doing a Grave disservice to Women.By Lowering the Bar Males are able to justify their stereo type of ‘Weaker of the Species’ dogma. Females who allow the bar to be lowered are also complicit in this false pretense, but also carry the burden of Undermining themselves (and their Daughters) in the Process.Women who Request or Demand the Bar be Lowered ( Hillary & Sarah) destroy nearly a Century of very hard Work by Women’s movement Predecessors.The Womens Movement has Always JUST Wanted a LEVEL Playing Field- Not “Pay backs a Bitch”,Then we become nothing more than oppressors Too!Reverse Sexism is STILL Sexism, Reverse Racism is Still Racism.
The Moment a Woman allows, Expects or demands a Bar to be Lowered, she has proven she Knows NOTHING About Womens Equality and it’s struggle. These Women make US women who must work on the ‘Boys’ playing Field constantly disavow them and Attempt to regain the Position we have been fighting for over Millenia.
John Lennon Wrote “Woman is the Nigger of the World”, and he was right..Unfortunately we have Some ‘Sisters’ who are helping Hold Us Down- For their own selfish purposes.

What in the hell are you people smoking?

I don’t endorse any of your candidates, especially the ones that say I do.

Get your shit together and start acting like responsible adults and start taking care of my creation or else.

And remember the Sermon on the Mount?  That one about feeding the poor, tending to the sick and sheltering the homeless?

Those weren’t suggestions, dammit.

Get your acts together before I decide all is lost and open up a can of whup ass on you fools and then let Evolution determine the next best thing for my beloved creation, Earth.

Now I’m out of here to watch my favorite baseball team, the Cubs, blow another post season game.  Grrrrr!

Gee whiz, wonder why contributions aren’t what they used to be? Do contributors formerly able to contribute know that their man, Dobson, appears to have a whole other agenda? One other than contributors’ welfare?

See, when I was a kid living in west Denver, we kids got in the car to speed down to what we referred to as, “The Springs” to pig-out on Giuseppe’s pizza, otherwise located only in Ft. Collins, where I “enjoyed” tear-gassing one breezy night in 1968, or was it 69? Can’t exactly recall whether late fall of 68 or spring of 69. To this day, still the best pizza I ever tasted, baked in brick ovens, etc. Well worth speeding southbound on I-25.

No dominionists back then. Nut-jobs were still mostly confined to D.C., and maybe LA.

Since then, beginning some time ago, Dobson moved in not too far from Cheyenne Mountain/Air Force Academy just a little north of The Springs. Along with others of his ilk. I’ve heard he enjoys his own zip code. Which should make contributing that much easier for those so inclined.

Dobson thinks he knows God when I discovered what God there is to be known in Giuseppe’s pizza, which I expect Dobson probably drove out just for being “devilicious.”

Things in The Springs must be really bad these days if a guy who could talk a stone stone into giving up blood still can’t collect. Excellent news. Might that mean the possible return of God in the form of Giuseppe’s? For the sake of those residing in The Springs, I hope so. Their money far better spent on the best pizza ever (not in Chicago and not in New York, but last tasted in Colorado Springs; I’ve had pizza in places just mentioned, and so can report: Not even close) than on an “ethical” individual with a private(ing) agenda.

James Dobson is one reason I left the Republican Party. When they started listening to idiots like him, that was enough for me. He changed into a right wing extremist that just reminded of the fruitcakes in the John Birch Society in Orange County in the 60’s. Back then there were enough moderate Republicans to keep the extremists in check but eventually like me, they were all driven out. The last Republican president I liked was Ike. Boy has the GOP fallen since those days. McCain is now trying to run as a non-Republican and trying to clothe himself as some sort of latter day Bull Moose Party candidate. That won’t fly - McCain is even more conservative than Bush and Palin is even worse. And what gives with McCain’s surliness? He is becoming downright obnoxious. He isn’t even civil to Obama. No wonder they call him McNasty.

I guess the answer is that Jesus is an aphrodisiac.

So we’re all mistaken about what the guy means when he cries out, “Jesus!”

Jeff Foster

you bring up an interesting point. Years ago as my wife and I sat in a hopital following her fourth miscarriage(we do, fortunatly, have one child) She was watching a news item on tv about a fundamentalist religeous couple who were giving birth to their 12th or 13th child. They told everyone how proud they were to give all their children a religeous based, home schooled education.
Kelly turned to me and said,“why is it that responsible, hard working people can have so much difficulty with having children, and religeous nut jobs and poor single girls seem to breed like rabbits?”

I did not have a good answer then, and i still don’t.

Yes, a perfect match. A make believe evangelical like James Dobson goes for the “Make Believe Maverick” [Rolling Stone]

“. . . Walking along the grounds at Fort McNair, McCain runs into John Dramesi, an Air Force lieutenant colonel who was also imprisoned and tortured in Vietnam. . .

There’s a distance between the two men that belies their shared experience in North Vietnam — call it an honor gap. Like many American POWs, McCain broke down under torture and offered a “confession” to his North Vietnamese captors.

Dramesi, in contrast, attempted two daring escapes. For the second he was brutalized for a month with daily torture sessions that nearly killed him. . .

On the grounds between the two brick colleges, the chitchat between the scion of four-star admirals and the son of a prizefighter turns to their academic travels. . .

“I’m going to the Middle East,” Dramesi says. “Turkey, Kuwait, Lebanon, Iran.”

“Why are you going to the Middle East?” McCain asks, dismissively.

“It’s a place we’re probably going to have some problems,” Dramesi says.

“Why? Where are you going to, John?”

“Oh, I’m going to Rio.”
“What the hell are you going to Rio for?”

McCain, a married father of three, shrugs.

“I got a better chance of getting laid.”

Dramesi, who went on to serve as chief war planner for U.S. Air Forces in Europe and commander of a wing of the Strategic Air Command, was not surprised. “McCain says his life changed while he was in Vietnam, and he is now a different man,” Dramesi says today. “But he’s still the undisciplined, spoiled brat that he was when he went in.”

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Given the history of matchless hypocrisy of these phony religious fanatics, Dobson probably visits gay prostitutes.  His followers will be shocked but forgiving when he is outed.

In my view, every contribution here was spot on. This is all scary, very scary, stuff.

But Jeff Foster’s entry hit the core issue. While I wouldn’t go so far to say that most Americans are morons, I totally agree on the outcome. As a nation, we’ve produced masses of disconnected, clueless, pseudo-patriots who can only be moved by fear and oversimplistic sound bites. 

The blame sits with all of us, however, as “moron” or not, we’ve allowed a Corporatocracy to take over our nation. As a nation, we’re now the result of that take over, no longer able (if even willing) to take it back.

The notiion of Hillary Clinton as a Supreme Court justice is intriguing, but highly unlikely.  She’s a politician, not a jurist, and enjoys the limelight, not exactly the stuff of being a SCOTUS justice.  Not as much individual power to exercise.  Funny that the right still tries to make the Clintons into boogey[wo]men.

You forgot the fourth G: Gold.

The reason that stuff like this works with the Republican base (and others?) is that they vote on three issues and three issues only and those trump EVERYTHING else (including their own self-interests).  Guns, God, and Gays.  It’s the 3-G’s of Republican politics and it is what they fall back on at every turn.

Demonize people who want the choice to be available for woman, or gun controls, or who want to treat gay people, like actual people and not punching dummies.  Then throw in some religeon whenever you can’t explain something (“It’s God’s will…”, right Sarah?) It’s a shame that people keep falling for it, but they do so that’s why people like Dobson keep existing and why we keep hearing about him and his despicable “Focus on Family” organization.

If there is a hell, Dobson and his hypocritical followers will be first in line.

Dobson, Dobson… isn’t that Jesus’ hit man? I’m thinking that for the good of America, it’s time to revert back to feeding the Christianistas to lions. Golly, Jebus must be ever so proud of his “flock.” After all, nothing says the ‘spiritually uplifting’ like good old fashioned torture and mean spirited hate mongering. Yeah, Jebus must be ever so proud. Can we all say “Dominionist?”

Focus On Your Own Damn Family

Big B,
The answer is that millions of Americans listen.  You’re right, he will need to be heavily guarded, the Dobsonites, Robertsons and Hagee’s will be out in full force….. in the name of God. Sick isn’t it?

What is more frightening, the fact that a radio station broadcasts the daily ravings of this right wing, nazi loonball, or that millions of americans listen to him?

If barry does win, he will have to be the most guarded president in history. There are a lot of well armed, flag sucking, dominionist Dobsonites out there that think an afterlife of 87 vigins and a pool party with Jesus await them if thay can knock off this muslim nigre with the uppity attitude.

Given McCain connection to gambling; I’m surprised the christian right, fanatic lunatics, would have anything to do with him.  But then hypocrisy is their bible.