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So much for Sarah Palin the reformer: The Alaska governor took home more than $25,000 in gifts during her less than two years in office, including “honorific tributes, expensive artwork and free travel for a family member.” Bombshells like that are rocking the right wing, along with Palin’s embarrassing interviews, which have prompted conservative columnist Kathleen Parker to declare, “My cringe reflex is exhausted.”


Washington Post:

The 41 gifts Palin accepted during her 20 months as governor include honorific tributes, expensive artwork and free travel for a family member. They also include more than $2,500 in personal items from Calista, a large Alaska native corporation with a variety of pending state regulatory and budgetary issues, and a gold-nugget pin valued at $1,200 from the city of Nome, which lobbies on municipal, local and capital budget matters, documents show.

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Kathleen Parker in the National Review:

Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I’ve been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I’ve also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.

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By cyrena, October 5, 2008 at 12:54 am Link to this comment

THANK YOU Shenonymous, for taking the gloves off. Somebody’s gotta do it. And, after a catastrophic crash, (I know I’m not alone) I’m trying to rise to the occasion myself.

We’ve got exactly 30 days folks, and if we don’t get it together to put some real leaders (not miracle workers or shit talkers, but LEADERS) in charge of this sinking ship, we will all drown.

That’s just how simple it is. G Anderson mentioned not long ago, that people would soon be leaving California in droves. This is already happening. Literally. It’s only a matter of time now, before there are no longer places to escape. (most of those leaving California are heading to places like Texas, Utah, New Mexico, and Nevada).

And, here’s how I see that…when enough of us have been wiped out or otherwise displaced, the fat cats will have the place to themselves. Sound familiar?

I’m not leaving. So, we’re in a standoff now, and I’m waiting on an Obama/Biden change. Only a recognition of reality, and the willingness to hunker down and deal with it, is gonna provide us any measure of survival.

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By Shenonymous, October 4, 2008 at 9:47 pm Link to this comment

I am posting this everywhere so you might see it on several forums and I will be updating as I receive new information.

So McCain is going for character assassination of Obama!  Well then, the gloves are off.  This is the season of the witch!  The witch will go ahunting!  Let’s see, how about starting with dickhead McCain’s first wife!  And how he left her after she had a disfiguring car accident for another cutsie chick, Cindy.  That’s loyalty for ya.  It’s one thing to fall out of love and divorce, but for guys who want to be politicians, messing around is deadly.

Two years younger than Ralph Nader, on his own health, check out this website:
http://therealmccain.com/doctors/

Joe Klein-Time magazine Sept. 17, 2008 tells us McCain’s claims skirt facts and his lies have ranged from the annoying to the sleazy, and the problem is in both degree and kind. His campaign has been a ceaseless assault on his opponent’s character and policies, featuring a consistent—and witting—disdain for the truth.  So we will publish these lies every day in every place possible. Even the New York Times editorial board is calling John McCain a liar.

Paraphrasing Klein’s words, John McCain raises serious questions about whether he has the character to lead the nation. He defaces his beloved military code of honor. He is running a dirty campaign.

Jon Stewart called him a shameless panderer. What could that mean?  He embraces all the things he used to condemn.  Bush being one of them, then he turns around and is now bashing Bush.  What??

By way of providing background, the article reprised the story of the Keating Five scandal that cost three Senators their jobs and nearly ended John McCain’s career. According to the Times, during McCain’s years in the House of Representatives, he became friendly with Charles Keating, Chairman of Lincoln Savings & Loan.

Vote Obama/Biden if you want change in the White House.

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By purplewolf, October 2, 2008 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment

Leefeller: The movie was 1 Million years B.C. or are you talking about the one Ringo Starr make abnout the cavemen?

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By Leefeller, September 30, 2008 at 7:37 am Link to this comment

cyrena,

Liberal and conservative, left and right, progressive and morons all have one thing in common according to myth.  An empty pallet (blank slate).  This is not true, there is some evidence people are born that way.  It is hereditary, for instance people are predisposed to being criminals, alcoholics, and Republicans it is written in their genes, they cannot help themselves. 

The same holds for being liberal, as for becoming more liberal as you get older, I feel the same way, it may just be an assimulation over time of observations seeing gross inequatable and injustices preformed on others time and time again.

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By cyrena, September 29, 2008 at 11:01 pm Link to this comment

Thanks to ALL for the hard work. Shenonymous, Beerdoctor, ITW, Purple Wolf, Killer Bud, and just about EVERYBODY!!!

Thanks for doing the research, since it’s obvious that the PTB wanna make sure that we DON’T know what we need to know.

In defense of Purple Wolf’s mention of Palin’s ‘record’ there’s something to think about. Now this is gonna sound really odd coming from me, because while many have tried to make me accept the claim that ‘people become more conservative as they get older’ I’ve kicked and screamed against it. In fact, I’ve sworn that I’ve become even MORE liberal, and not less.

But, let’s consider these traffic violations for a moment, and not as a ‘separate’ entity, but in the whole. I specifically remember this exact same thing, happening at this exact same time, 8 years ago. The papers finally came up with a few of the documents related to GW Bushes scrapes with the law…specifically his DWI offenses, for which he was never held accountable in any significant way, just like he’s never been held accountable for ANY of his life-long fuckups.

The response by my co-workers, neighbors, and all of the other redneck repuglicans in Texass, (which is where I still was at the time) was that this was all petty and political. The dems were just trying to get some ‘dirt’ on him, by publicizing his DWI charges, and the fact that he never answered to them.

HUMM…I think that was a really clear indication of what we’ve all now come to experience, up close and personal. It was an indication that GW Bush believed then, as he has continued to believe, that he was somehow ABOVE THE LAW that the average citizen is expected to follow, in a country that claims to be built on a rule of law foundation.

Are traffic citations and speeding tickets petty nonsense in terms of the far more overwhelming inadequacies displayed by Sarah Palin for the job of VP or President? Well, ONE would be. But multiple violations tell me that she has no more respect for the rule of law than GW Bush has ever had. And that old ‘slogan’ - SPEED KILLS, is more than a ‘slogan’ to the parent or anyone else who has lost a loved one because of the negligence of another in abiding by the laws that are designed to keep ALL of us safe.

So, speed actually DOES kill, and that includes the 42 meth labs that purplewolf mentions. Why or how in the hell are there that many killer drug labs (that blow up as well) in an area with so few people? And, why hasn’t the Gov. done anything about it?

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By Leefeller, September 28, 2008 at 6:35 pm Link to this comment

You guys may have missed the link about Palin saying “Dinosaurs coexisted with people.”  Actually she may be right, I saw that movie too!  Wasn’t it named “ Godzilla”  had to be real, Perry Mason was in it?

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 6:06 pm Link to this comment

Might as well get it all over with for the evening:

Talk about suppression of the news.  The First Amendment is being violated right and right.  Good grief.

Thank you too, Grammaconcept.  I was alerted this a.m. by a non-Truthdigger
that the media also did not cover the huge rally in Alaska so I did some research and here are my findings.  This is the extent of the coverage I found that may be added to yours at themudflats.

7 articles Found at CNN.com one on NPR

http://search.cnn.com/search.jsp?query=Alaska Rally&type=web&sortBy=date&intl=false
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/rally.asp - Snopes
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http://momocrats.typepad.com/momocrats/2008/09/the-largest-pol.html
- Momocrats
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/alaskan-women-reject-pali_b_126315.html - Huffington Post
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-13-anti-Palin-rally_N.htm  -  USA Today, 9/13/2008
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http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-91124
This one is mostly pictures.
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http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2008/09/28/hold-palin-accountable-rally-in-alaska-draws-2000-huge/
Mostly comments.
Irregular Times: News » Hold Palin Accountable Rally, Anchorage Alaska, 9/27/08 @ Noon
Thursday, September 25th, 2008
Hold Palin Accountable Rally, Anchorage Alaska, 9/27/08 @ Noon
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Did not appear on the New York Times anywhere.
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Not on the LA TImes
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Couldn’t find it on Pacifica!  Pacifica?
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94729678
NPR-In Va., Palin Draws Mixed Reaction Among Women
by Linda Wertheimer
All Things Considered, Sept. 17, 2008

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 5:45 pm Link to this comment

Conservatives Begin Questioning Palin’s Heft
by Associated Press as posted on Fox News
Sunday, September 28, 2008
Some of the formatting in Part 2 which was posted first to try to keep continuity was not anticipated and paragraphs ran together. It is a matter of how the website formatted it originally.  Sorry…I am reposting it.  I can only hope it works.
Part 1
A growing number of Republicans are expressing concern about Sarah Palin’s uneven - and sometimes downright awkward - performances in her limited media appearances.

Conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, a former Palin supporter, says the vice presidential nominee should step aside. Kathryn Jean Lopez, writing for the conservative National Review, says “that’s not a crazy suggestion” and that “something’s gotta change.”

Tony Fabrizio, a GOP strategist, says Palin’s recent CBS appearance isn’t disqualifying but is certainly alarming. “You can’t continue to have interviews like that and not take on water.”

“I have not been blown away by the interviews from her, but at the same time, I haven’t come away from them thinking she doesn’t know sh*t,” said Chris Lacivita, a GOP strategist. “But she ain’t Dick Cheney, nor Joe Biden and definitely not Hillary Clinton.”

There is no doubt that Palin retains a tremendous amount of support among rank-and-file Republicans. She draws huge crowds, continues to raise a lot of money for the McCain campaign, and state parties report she has sparked an uptick in the number of volunteers.

Asked about Palin’s performance in the CBS interview, a McCain official briefing reporters on condition of anonymity said: “She did fine. She’s a tremendous asset and a fantastic candidate.”

But there is also no doubt many Republican insiders are worried she could blow next week’s debate, based on her unexpectedly weak and unsteady media appearances, and hurt the Republican ticket if she does.

What follows is a viewer’s guide to some of Palin’s toughest moments on camera so far.

Speaking this week with CBS’s Katie Couric, Palin seemed caught off- guard by a very predictable question about the status of McCain adviser Rick Davis’ relationship with mortgage lender Freddie Mac. Davis was accused by several news outlets of retaining ties - and profiting from - the companies despite his denials.

Where a more experienced politician might have been able to brush off Couric’s follow-up question, Palin seemed genuinely stumped, repeating the same answer twice and resorting to boilerplate language about the “undue influence of lobbyists.”

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 5:45 pm Link to this comment

Conservatives Begin Questioning Palin’s Heft
by Associated Press as posted on Fox News
Sunday, September 28, 2008

Part 2.
These missteps could be attributed to inadequate preparation and don’t necessarily reflect more deeply on Palin’s ability to perform as vice president. But when reporters have tried to probe Palin’s thinking on subjects such as foreign policy, she’s been similarly opaque.

In an interview with ABC’s Charlie Gibson, Palin gave a muddled answer to a question about her opinion of the Bush Doctrine.

And given the chance to describe her foreign policy credentials more fully, Palin recited familiar talking points, telling Gibson that her experience with energy policy was sufficient preparation for dealing with national security issues.

In the same interview, Palin let Gibson lead her into saying it might be necessary to wage war on Russia - a suggestion that most candidates would have avoided making explicitly and that signaled her discomfort in discussing global affairs.

Then, asked this week by Couric to discuss her knowledge of foreign relations - in particular, her assertion that Alaska’s proximity to Russia gave her international experience - Palin tripped herself up explaining her interactions with Alaska’s neighbor to the west. Watch CBS Videos Online

On the economy, too, Palin has avoided taking clear stances. In a largely friendly interview with Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity, Palin spoke in tangled generalities in response to a question about a possible Wall Street bailout - and even preempted her campaign by coming out against it.

On Thursday, Palin finally took questions from her traveling press - but shut things down quickly after Politico’s Kenneth P. Vogel asked her whether she would support Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, who has been indicted for corruption, and Rep. Don Young, who is under federal investigation, for reelection.

Unlike her other interviews, at least this time Palin had the option to walk away.

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment

Conservatives Begin Questioning Palin’s Heft
by Associated Press as posted on Fox News
Sunday, September 28, 2008

Part 2.
These missteps could be attributed to inadequate preparation and don’t necessarily reflect more deeply on Palin’s ability to perform as vice president. But when reporters have tried to probe Palin’s thinking on subjects such as foreign policy, she’s been similarly opaque.

In an interview with ABC’s Charlie Gibson, Palin gave a muddled answer to a question about her opinion of the Bush Doctrine.
And given the chance to describe her foreign policy credentials more fully, Palin recited familiar talking points, telling Gibson that her experience with energy policy was sufficient preparation for dealing with national security issues.
In the same interview, Palin let Gibson lead her into saying it might be necessary to wage war on Russia - a suggestion that most candidates would have avoided making explicitly and that signaled her discomfort in discussing global affairs.
Then, asked this week by Couric to discuss her knowledge of foreign relations - in particular, her assertion that Alaska’s proximity to Russia gave her international experience - Palin tripped herself up explaining her interactions with Alaska’s neighbor to the west. Watch CBS Videos Online
On the economy, too, Palin has avoided taking clear stances. In a largely friendly interview with Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity, Palin spoke in tangled generalities in response to a question about a possible Wall Street bailout - and even preempted her campaign by coming out against it.
On Thursday, Palin finally took questions from her traveling press - but shut things down quickly after Politico’s Kenneth P. Vogel asked her whether she would support Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, who has been indicted for corruption, and Rep. Don Young, who is under federal investigation, for reelection.
Unlike her other interviews, at least this time Palin had the option to walk away.

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 5:16 pm Link to this comment

KillerBud
What if I posted it here in segments?  I’ll do it later.  Gotta have some dinner.  This is real suppression of the news and violation of the 1st Amendment!  I could curse, but what the f**k!

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By Killer Bud, September 28, 2008 at 5:06 pm Link to this comment

I recently went to a few sites that tried to download “microsoft office” as soon as I clicked on the site I though that was what you meant for a sec.

Im glad you got it saved. raspberry

We wont let Fox bury this if we can help it heh.

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By Killer Bud, September 28, 2008 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment

Shenony, wow I hate it when that happens, The site hasn’t been doing that to me though, Im sorry about that.

I just cant believe how them at Fox are trying to bury this so hard, maybe it can be found someplace else..

I have half a mind to clip and paste it here lol.

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 4:47 pm Link to this comment

Well Killer Bud, your second posted site does still work, it’s from China, by the way, and I just downloaded it to Microsoft word.  So if anybody wants it, let me know.  I’ve got it.

Thanks for your work.

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment

Sorry Killer Bud but the site I posted was working until about 10 this morning. Then apparently it was pulled too.  Your new one does not work either. So we are being trampled by censorship by fascist pigs.  Must be time for another pig tale.

John, John the sailor’s son,
Stole a pig, and away he run!
The pig was eat, and John was beat,
And John went screaming down the street.

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By Killer Bud, September 28, 2008 at 4:35 pm Link to this comment

Ack, somehow my clip and pasting skills were sabotaged by Fox. (jk)

My initial post of the link is functioning fine though.

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By Killer Bud, September 28, 2008 at 4:31 pm Link to this comment

The link that Shenonymous posted after mine has been buried by Fox. I dont know why Shenony had a problem going to link I put up, but the article is still there on that one if anyone wanted to check it out.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/brows e_thread/thread/da503176236efa28

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By GrammaConcept, September 28, 2008 at 4:27 pm Link to this comment

Re: the title of this article, to which I add….......

‘also, the center, the left and, the tired…..’

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By Leefeller, September 28, 2008 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment

Matt Taibbi may be a little over the top for some, and he will not change any of Palin’s cousins from voting for her, but he sure as hell called it like some of us see it. Sure I could probably pick apart some of his comments, but my agreement with him would make it very hard.

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 2:12 pm Link to this comment

It is not unusual for high ratings after a convention for that political party.  What is significant is how regularly they fall after that.  Have you seen it ever go up since?  Take a look at today’s.  Prediction:  Every debate will show Obama/Biden rises higher than McCain/Palin.

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment

If it is just “a little over the top,” what’s to worry about?  Exaggeration goes on all the time. Just listen to any politician, any of them.  What exactly is over the top in Taibbi’s article?  You probably can’t really say troublesum.

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By troublesum, September 28, 2008 at 2:00 pm Link to this comment

Thebeerdoctor
Matt Taibbi is a little over the top.  McCain/Palin at the peak of the post-convention bounce were at 51% in the polls and have since fallen about 7 points.

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 10:38 am Link to this comment

Get a grip!  Why wouldn’t “Palin retain a tremendous amount of support among rank-and-file Republicans?”  They have made a total emotional investment and that is the deepest kind.  They now have to show that they love their child come hell or high water and regardless of how stupid she sounds and makes them look.  A commitment is a commitment.  Especially by their presidential candidate who looks more stupid for allowing the powers that be for choosing her even though he makes it look like he was the one who chose her.  He may have had a voice but because of the money involved you surely don’t believe for a minute that he had the entire choice?  They needed some dazzle in trade for the old grey hairs that run the party. 

They are also busy lowering the bar for her performance in the debate with Biden so that when it is all over if she does as poorly as they expect, it won’t look as bad.  They will already have it set up to give their excuses. Appearances are everything, and don’t forget it.

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By xyzaffair, September 28, 2008 at 10:28 am Link to this comment
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I can just hear Dan Quayle now: “And they called ME stupid!”

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 10:26 am Link to this comment

FYI:  Killer Bud’s new link doesn’t work either.  Try the link I just posted. It works every time.  Very revealing.

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 10:24 am Link to this comment

Also in its entirety at:
http://election.swiftmob.com/content.html?page=1040&content=3655824&pageNum;=-1

See how swift we can find it!  Who does Fox think they are kidding?

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By Killer Bud, September 28, 2008 at 10:22 am Link to this comment

I was able to find the article they pulled and it shows a link to the fox site that no longer works hehe.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/browse_thread/thread/da503176236efa28

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By Killer Bud, September 28, 2008 at 10:17 am Link to this comment

I was very suprised to see this when I logged on this morning:

Conservatives Begin Questioning Palin’s Heft
FOXNews - 3 hours ago
by AP A growing number of Republicans are expressing concern about Sarah Palin’s uneven - and sometimes downright awkward - performances in her limited ...

I was suprised that Fox news had such an article on thier site, especially on thier home page, giving how they are usually so supportive of the GOP VP pick…

When it first came out I was able to read the article, It was basically slamming Palin line after line. I couldn’t believe it. I had to go back and look again, but they pulled it off the site.  When you go to the link now it says:


“The request page doesn’t exist. Please double check to make sure you have the correct URL.”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/28/conservatives-begin-questioning-palins-heft/

For a second I actually thought Fox was jumping ship on McCain, but thats obviously not the case since they deleted the article off the site, but it was a very funny thing to come across this morning.

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By xyzaffair, September 28, 2008 at 9:58 am Link to this comment
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Assuming she’s in Wasilla and he’s in Moscow, Palin is probably as far from Putin as Los Angeles is from London.

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By Shenonymous, September 28, 2008 at 9:56 am Link to this comment

The Taibbi article at Rolling Stone is about as point-blank as it can get.  Some of his emotional perceptions are worth repeating here and ought to be repeated everywhere it can be, particularly targeting those who do not visit online news and especially those outside of Truthdig.  Send it to all your relative and friends.  It is emotion that will win this day.  So I will do it here, and should be posted on every Truthdig article where it could be relevant.  We must give thanks to thebeerdoctor for posting the article website.  These are the paragraphs I found says it succinctly, but maybe you have another one.

Sarah Palin is a symbol of everything that is wrong with the modern United States. As a representative of our political system, she’s a new low in reptilian villainy, the ultimate cynical masterwork of puppeteers like Karl Rove. But more than that, she is a horrifying symbol of how little we ask for in return for the total surrender of our political power.

Not only is Sarah Palin a fraud, she’s the tawdriest, most half-assed fraud imaginable, 20 floors below the lowest common denominator, a character too dumb even for daytime TV -and this country is going to eat her up, cheering her every step of the way. All because most Americans no longer have the energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.

The imageering of Obama, is how all political candidates are processed.  We all know this already.  Once they are seen as real contenders, the crew steps in to polish up the candidate, their words and their physical presentation.  This is obviously being done for Palin and it was without question done for Obama.  There is no quarrel with this.  We are a media-driven society.  Taibbi points out the differences and those are crucially important.  For the images must be real or not real.  The truth comes out in interviews like the Couric one.  The mouth betrays the brain…every time.

We don’t have to be “sold down the river” as others are in other countries because they have no power at all.  To think that we don’t means we might as well jump into the shitholes of an outhouse.  Do we just give up without a fight, tails between our collective legs?  It is a defeatist attitude. 

We do have power.  We can and have to unite and gather the rest of the media-numbed to unite with us.  We are the ones with the cards.  Maybe there are those who would prefer that we do not know it?  Lazy are we?  Let there be no mistake that come election day, every single vote is going to count.  Does the opposition knows this better than we do?

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By Leefeller, September 28, 2008 at 9:17 am Link to this comment

thebeerdoctor,

Great blistering article by Matt Taibbi, thanks.  Long article, but he correctly express how I actually percieve most of the BS, by the way he does not pull any punches for Obama and McCain, which did not bother me at all. 

We are usually sold a blind bill of goods the proverbial pig in a poke, do we ever really know what we are being sold?  Forced to buy anyway, we are sold down the river for sure.

His raw bluntness is very refreshing, compared to mealy mouthed Mass Media.

We need more writers like him.

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By thebeerdoctor, September 28, 2008 at 7:35 am Link to this comment

Since the subject is Palin, I can not think of a more blistering set of comments than those of Matt Taibbi.

http://www.alternet.org/election08/100551/

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By thebeerdoctor, September 28, 2008 at 7:27 am Link to this comment

Note to post below: link does not work. Much easier to type into Google: Palin’s stand on mining, and you will find the link the Post says it can not find. Is it just coincidence that many mainstream news links often do not work? Please go to the trouble to read the article, it is worth looking at.

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By thebeerdoctor, September 28, 2008 at 7:20 am Link to this comment

Although many have portrayed the Governor of Alaska as a useless fool, I think useful tool is more accurate:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/27/AR200892702834.html?hpid=topnews

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By octopus, September 28, 2008 at 7:17 am Link to this comment

The decision speaks volumes and should be a clear warning to the last vanguards of sanity.

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By octopus, September 28, 2008 at 7:08 am Link to this comment
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John McCain emphasises his experience and then turns around and Chooses Mrs. Palin as his running mate?
You really have to question the judgment here. What is his true motivation? A lust for power so strong that it clouds reason? A cynical ploy to earn votes and capitalize on the disenfranchisement of Hillary’s Sisterhood of the Traveling Pantsuits?
I would love to be a fly on the wall as McCain excuses himself to his Rage Bunker on election day.

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By msgmi, September 28, 2008 at 6:42 am Link to this comment
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Let’s get serious, Sara Palin should be raising Huskies and not be a heart beat away from the presidency. But give credit where it’s due, the GOP tactic is to get another sychophant into office in order to perpetuate the neocon cause celebre of world order. What better way than to run an octegenerian and a neophyte politician which they will continue to manipulate and use as puppets to execute national policy as they have done for the past 8 years.

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By Bobakaraul, September 28, 2008 at 5:43 am Link to this comment
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The fact that Sarah Palin is, or was McCain’s choice for VP says all I need to know about him. HE is either rash to judgment before looking hard and long at very complex and important decisions…..or he could not see how unprepared poor Sarah was/is for what he has asked her to do for him….both bad news for McCain

I feel as though the whole process has become sureal…is this some right wing tactic at keeping us off balance, or complete ineptitude?

Its obvious to me that the wheels have come off the McCain campaign…..what is scary to me is that the polls are still as closeas they are

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By JustTheFacts, September 27, 2008 at 11:13 pm Link to this comment

It all depends on what important things you can view from your porch or stoop, I guess. It is amazing that even I can answer some of those questions posed to her from what I read from mag subscriptions I recieve, info gathered from the net and small talk. You talk about “out of touch”...they must be stopped.

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By floydw, September 27, 2008 at 9:09 pm Link to this comment

My personal favorite:

COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries; allow them to spend more and put more money into the economy instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?


PALIN: That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health-care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—it’s got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health-care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we’ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.

Source: http://www.newsweek.com/id/161204

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By Outraged, September 27, 2008 at 8:15 pm Link to this comment

Re: DoctorK

Your comment: “The bar has been set so low for her that it will take a masterful performance by Biden to prevent the slightest suggestion of condescension on his part.  I see ol’ Joe coming through, though.

I agree.  Biden can certainly pull up “the prick side” when need be, and he is certainly versed (whether I agree or not) in foreign affairs.  I sense that Biden, should simply be left alone for a day, to consider the task without interruption. He’ll emerge victorious.  Remember, Biden was a single parent, and did well.  Palin isn’t and hasn’t…well, done so well.  Biden has grit in this department, whereas Palin only reflects inadequacy.

I think for Biden it will come down to tone of voice.  In other words, stand up… but don’t waiver for the cutesy-ness of Palin’s BS.  Strong, but not overpowering.  Knowledgeable, but not arrogant(this will be the hard part).  Down to earth and hard hitting but not mean.  Let Palin dig at least the first half of her own grave, and then come out with a sorry… but the “facts is the facts” type of aura…with a slight bit of heartfelt comraderie for her ignorance.  It’s hard you know…..extremely important….not to be taken lightly…. world changing…

Biden can do it.  All he needs is the time to consider the delicate nature of MAJOR world issues….ones which Palin has considered for what…a month now…?

BTW, *message to Biden*.  Stop sending the cops to beat up on petty joe America.  Send them off to do a more important job, investigate the TRULY BIG CRIMINALS, the business interests intent on ruining America.  Anything else is waste of resources, first you get the big guy….only then, do you “fix” the minor shit.  Of course,  most likely the petty problems will fall by the wayside if the TRUE crooks are apprehended.

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By Leefeller, September 27, 2008 at 7:07 pm Link to this comment

Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD

In polite company mentioned:

“It burns my ass that preachers have so much power over people.”

May have something to do with preachers calling those people, their flock? Do lemmings have flocks?

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By Allan Krueger, September 27, 2008 at 6:38 pm Link to this comment

Just HOW DUMB do they (Mc-PALIN) think we are? And McPAIN has the balls to talk about experience…

Couric: You’ve cited Alaska’s proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?

Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It’s funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don’t know, you know … reporters.

Couric: Mocked?

Palin: Yeah, mocked, I guess that’s the word, yeah.

Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials.

Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of. And there…

Couric: Have you ever been involved in any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

Palin: We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state.

Couric: When President Bush ran for office, he opposed nation-building. But he has spent, as you know, much of his presidency promoting democracy around the world. What lessons have you learned from Iraq? And how specifically will you try to spread democracy throughout the world?

Palin: Specifically, we will make every effort possible to help spread democracy for those who desire freedom, independence, tolerance, respect for equality. That is the whole goal here in fighting terrorism also. It’s not just to keep the people safe, but to be able to usher in democratic values and ideals around this, around the world.

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By Allan Krueger, September 27, 2008 at 6:33 pm Link to this comment
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Forget about this, just read this transcript. Just HOW DUMB do they (McPALIN) think we are?

Couric: You’ve cited Alaska’s proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?

Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It’s funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don’t know, you know … reporters.

Couric: Mocked?

Palin: Yeah, mocked, I guess that’s the word, yeah.

Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials.

Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of. And there…

Couric: Have you ever been involved in any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

Palin: We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state.

Couric: When President Bush ran for office, he opposed nation-building. But he has spent, as you know, much of his presidency promoting democracy around the world. What lessons have you learned from Iraq? And how specifically will you try to spread democracy throughout the world?

Palin: Specifically, we will make every effort possible to help spread democracy for those who desire freedom, independence, tolerance, respect for equality. That is the whole goal here in fighting terrorism also. It’s not just to keep the people safe, but to be able to usher in democratic values and ideals around this, around the world.

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By Shenonymous, September 27, 2008 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment

Wonder if there is a special fire retardant for preachers, Dr. Dr.?  Burnt butts, not good! 

Enforceable, well if there is a majority of conservatives on the Supreme Court it could be.  Isn’t that what they are all hoping for?  Your notion of existence by default of acknowledgement is an interesting theory and I don’t think you necessarily are wrong but I have singed fingers from the hot plate of conservativism and don’t want to risk brute force from the churches.  I mean isn’t that what they are all about?

Yes, Mercercat, there are some human fundamentalists out there.  Far and few between but I know some.  Truly human they are.  And I do also wonder why they are not heard?  They seem only to whisper their disagreement with their brethren.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, September 27, 2008 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment

Shenonymous, how do you suppose the law could ever be enforced?  I think it’s a bad law, for that reason.  I’ve always thought that exempting churches was a “law respecting the establishment of a religion” and shouldn’t exist, but apparently, I’m wrong about that, too.

A righ-wing fundamentalist God-Guy could speak out against Obama and for McSame, tell everyone Mum’s the word and no one would be the wiser.  But, then, who is he/she going to sway in that kind of a venue?  If a G-man is sitting in that congregation, he’s probably not going to say anything.

It burns my ass that preachers have so much power over people.

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By Shenonymous, September 27, 2008 at 4:17 pm Link to this comment

Well purplewolf it wasn’t fun and these charges are ridiculous.  Nothing even remotely smells wrong.  If there is anything worthwhile I am interested, but this kind of petty hit and run stuff is just plain stupid.  Even the comment about an “unsettling family” is dumb.  This was a real time waster.  TIme should be spent on real indictments of her qualifications.  Stuff that will really show her for the shallow contender she is.

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By troublesum, September 27, 2008 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment

Palin’s so called “criminal record” consists of trafic violations and speeding tickets.  Let’s get real.

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By purplewolf, September 27, 2008 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment

to all: after posting the morosehellhole site I checked it, and according to the page that came up on the web, it said page not found and to go to blog homepage. You need to go to homepage and go back into older pages to Tuesday Sept. 02, 2008 for the article Sarah Palin Has A Criminal Record(updated 4X). I used to be able to get this page up immediately without the hassle of backtracking. Have fun. At least McCain/Palin haven’t totally taken it down yet.

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By R in Colorado, September 27, 2008 at 2:29 pm Link to this comment
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After taking five years to get her degree in journalism, wouldn’t you expect Sarah to interveiw a little bit better than she did?

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By DoctorK, September 27, 2008 at 2:08 pm Link to this comment

In psych, there are terms: circumstantiality, tangential thinking, thought blocking…all clearly shown in her Couric interviews. Very hard to follow, but then at the end, after taking you through all her nonsensical statements, she tries to package it with a pretty bow and smile. WAKE UP, AMERICA! They may have to stop the debate on 10-2 by declaring it a TKO if she starts to get flustered when she realizes she cannot answer the question. The bar has been set so low for her that it will take a masterful performance by Biden to prevent the slightest suggestion of condescension on his part.  I see ol’ Joe coming through, though. Look out, Sarah…it’s the “Quayle-caught-in-the-headlights” look…can’t wait!!

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By Mercercat, September 27, 2008 at 2:01 pm Link to this comment
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The gag line would be that Sarah Palin gives fundamentalists a bad name.  However, if you look at the idea seriously, it’s quite accurate.  What many of us tend to dismiss as “fundamentalists” include a wide range of people, including a fairly large number who simply want to live good lives.  Certainly, there is nothing inherent in “fundamentalism” that would make a person dishonest, cynical, or vacuous.  When we see a visible symbol of fundamentalism - Sarah Palin certainly comes to mind - behaving in a dishonest, cynical, AND vacuous manner, we should acknowledge that there are, doubtlessly, a lot of fundamentalists who are cringing with embarrassment.  It would be nice to hear from some of them.

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By Shenonymous, September 27, 2008 at 11:47 am Link to this comment

Well hold onto your seats, the troops… are marching in.  The pulpit troops that is.  Perhaps you should start writing your congressmen to stop this new assault from the godlies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/27/opinion/27sat4.html?ei=5070&emc=eta1
OPINION   | September 27, 2008
Editorial:  I’m Your Pastor, and I Approved This Ad
The law restricting churches’ support of political candidates is not about limiting freedom of speech, but about limiting the pulpit’s influence on elections.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, September 27, 2008 at 10:31 am Link to this comment

Alaska is, I’m told, a really beautiful place.

You can probably overlook what goes on there politically with its 700,000 people (that they know of) when you live in such a gorgeous place that’s thousands of miles from D.C. 

I called her a high school girl from the get-go.  She didn’t fool me.  In debate, Obama should ask McCain why he picked a high school girl for a running mate.  But, then, the sacredness of the gender thing is second only to that of the sacredness of troops, Viet Nam taught us.

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By troublesum, September 27, 2008 at 10:20 am Link to this comment

Parker should have dispensed with the sarcasm and simply asked Palin to withdraw.  As it is the sarcasm will only make Palin more resolved to carry on.  What about political commentators puting the country first instead of trying to score points for humor and irony?

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By hippy pam, September 27, 2008 at 9:38 am Link to this comment

Palin/McCain=THE END OF DAYS…...

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By felicity, September 27, 2008 at 9:30 am Link to this comment

Perhaps a trifle but when Palin justified her extensive knowledge of Russia by declaring that all Putin had to do was ‘raise his head’ and there was Alaska, I stopped breathing. 

Before the debate with Biden someone has to point out to her that Moscow is not located in eastern Siberia.

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By purplewolf, September 27, 2008 at 8:42 am Link to this comment

How can she run a country, if need be, when she cannot even run her family smoothly!Check out:
http://morosehellhole.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-has-criminal-record

This woman thinks we are in the end of days and that those remaining will head to Alaska for the Rapture to take them up to heaven.

Perhaps Sarah spent too much time in some of those 42 meth labs the police recently raided in Wasilla(Wasilly) county.Someone as scattered(scat?t-rd=sh-t for brains)as her statements certainly is not capable of running anything in a diplomatic manner. How would she handle a crisis? Shoot them? And her comment about the Islamic terrorists is scary. Would she offer a bounty for the left forearm of every “terrorist”(in her opinion) as she does with th4e wolves killed in her home state of Alaska?
See how Sarah handles living species she does not like at:
http://actionfund.defenders.org/palintvwolf

this includes animals and humans.

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By Leefeller, September 27, 2008 at 7:24 am Link to this comment

Whenever I hear Palin give a speech, I start to hyperventilate then go into hairball mode, very close to cringing. If they panned the audience with the cameras during her next speech, we would see a site to behold, mass,up-chucking!

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By Inherit The Wind, September 27, 2008 at 6:53 am Link to this comment

Wow!  Outraged posts and I agree with it 100%!  Yeah: Can she run a flippin’ country??? 

She can’t even run a tiny town without corruption and vindictiveness.  And her governorship?  “Moose-a-lini” fits Palin perfectly. Sure, she through out the old corrupt gang—and replaced them with her own new, corrupt gang!

“Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”.

All that “pretty” is wasted on her.  She’s SO weird, fascistic and just plain nasty, I can’t even SEE the looks.  She reminds me of that poster of Ann Coulter-geist in a Nazi brown-shirt uniform.

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By skulz fontaine, September 27, 2008 at 6:39 am Link to this comment

Wait wait I know I know, some “brave” journalist needs to ask the Palindrone if she can walk and chew gum at the same time. The Palindrone is “all hair and she ate the moose.”

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By LibertyWatch, September 27, 2008 at 5:59 am Link to this comment

I must admit I attempted to listen to some of her interview and found it extremely fragmented and unintelligent. Babble, is the word that comes to mind but I do not wish to say she speaks in tongues. . . Palin is not ready for prime time and most definitely not VP or Presidential qualified from my point of view.

She’s a small town hick mayor and now governor of a wilderness state with scandal following her footsteps. Not a person I want to follow an old man, with problems, into the Whitehouse and one heartbeat away from the launch button.

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By Catherine, September 26, 2008 at 10:36 pm Link to this comment

LOL, Wily Trax!

I think she’s a Stepford Wife who has decided to get into politics.  I don’t think she’s cute.  Scary isn’t cute!  Remember that old television show called The Visitors and what was under the skin of The Visitors?  Maybe that’s what is lurking underneath Palin’s lipstick and pancake!

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By Outraged, September 26, 2008 at 9:43 pm Link to this comment

Well…. that was truthful.  This was a point I had attempted to make earlier.  You see there’s fundamentalists and then there are “fundamentalists”..  LOL.

I feel at least half of fundamentalists would not consider Palin’s “story” valid, simply because there’s no way to qualify it.  Sure there are those that will.  However many, especially women fundamentalists, who would see right through Palin and question her “good fortune”.  It just doesn’t cut the mustard.  They’ve been there, and Palin’s “luck of the draw” so to speak, appears suspect. 

I have several children, and I’d love to tell you that “in spite of it all” I was still able to be all things to all people.  But that’s a pipe dream, it isn’t grounded in REALITY.

In our society, like it or not (btw, many mothers DON’T like it), caring for children still falls mainly on the mother.  In addition, this normally turns out to be doubly true for fundamentalist women.  Sure.. there are exceptions, but they are definitely NOT the rule.  For this reason, Palin’s rise up the ladder is without validity.  In fact, instead of qualifying the time and effort involved in parenting, Palin desecrates it.  And in a flamboyant manner, I might add.  In effect, Palin is telling mothers everywhere THEY can’t really “cut it”, its an insult to those who work hard everyday for their families, at home.  A slap in the face.

Additionally, Palin PROVES herself ill-equipped for the position she is seeking.  She doesn’t know what she’s talking about, therefore she relies upon the age old art of BS.  She goes on about what she FEELS and what she THOUGHT, but where’s the knowledge.  So… as suspected, this in turn only validates what many, including fundamentalists, would question.

Right now… I would imagine many mothers, especially those with several children, are feeling quite vindicated.  Rightfully so.

On the other front, Republicans who are not of the religious bent, would write her off as BS at the get go.  I can easily imagine (from experience) their thoughts to be, “Yeah, she’s cute.”  “I give a rat’s ass.”  “Can she run the flippin’ country…!?”

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By Wily Trax, September 26, 2008 at 7:38 pm Link to this comment

Bush is all hat and no cattle

Palin is all hair and no moose

http://www.wilytrax.com

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