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U.S. and Pakistani Troops Exchange Fire

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Posted on Sep 25, 2008
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There are at least three differing accounts of exactly what happened on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border Thursday, but most agree that American and Pakistani forces shot at each other. Cross-border raids by U.S. forces into Pakistan’s territory have inflamed relations between the two countries.


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The United States military says US and Afghan forces have exchanged gunfire with Pakistani troops across the border with Afghanistan.

A senior US military official says a five-minute skirmish broke out after Pakistani soldiers fired warning shots near two US helicopters.

No one was hurt in the incidents and the US maintains its troops did not cross the border from Afghanistan.

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By Frank, September 26, 2008 at 2:30 pm Link to this comment

Yes, Fadel, you figured me out. I am an agent of Satan.  I have a condo in Hades, it’s very nice this time of year.

I also work part time as an intelligence analyst for the Easter Bunny and occasionally do freelance work for various deities.  I’m sure Thor and Vishnu would both recommend me highly.

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By Fadel Abdallah, September 26, 2008 at 2:13 pm Link to this comment

By Frank, September 26 at 11:51 am #

“Of course, you don’t need believe any of this. I probably have no idea what I am talking about. I certainly have no means of knowing any of this. Really. I’m just a plumber, or something. Of course, you don’t need believe any of this. I probably have no idea what I am talking about. I certainly have no means of knowing any of this. Really. I’m just a plumber, or something.”
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Of course, you certainly don’t know what you’re talking about, or at least the consequences of what you’re promoting. However, the fact that you bothered to write the garbage you wrote is in itself very troubling. It shows your warmongering mentality and your deep-seated hate for Islam and Muslims.

If you are not an ex-Mossad or CIA agent who must by necessity and indoctrination thrive only on wars and plotting, then, you must be an agent for Satan or a lobbyist for the industrial-military complex who wants to make a buck promoting wars and conflicts. Or you are, at worse, a mental case individual whose place is not on TD, but in a mental institution.

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By Frank, September 26, 2008 at 12:51 pm Link to this comment

I should mention that Pakistan does not have the capability to quickly launch a nuclear weapon against US forces, because their nuclear weapons are not even assembled, for security reasons. Anything that was on a launch delivery system ready to go would glow like a roman candle on our [blank blank blank] satellites. They are stored in component form, and we (US) know where they are stored.  Hell, the US helped them secure all the facilities. We can drop in special operators at every nuclear facility, destroy their communications networks, destroy every aircraft they have on the ground or in the air, and every launcher they have before they even know what the hell is going on.

Of course, you don’t need believe any of this. I probably have no idea what I am talking about. I certainly have no means of knowing any of this. Really. I’m just a plumber, or something.

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By Frank, September 26, 2008 at 12:26 pm Link to this comment

Barack Obama has long been an advocate of going after the Taliban and Al Quiada in Pakistan, with or without Pakistani permission. That is justifiable in my opinion, whereas the invasion of Iraq was clearly not.

Hampering US efforts to combat the Taliban and Al Quaida within their border regions is tantamount to harboring terrorists. Obama’s policy on that will be similar to Bush’s, perhaps substantially more aggressive.  I suspect he will halt operations there after he takes office until he has a chance to talk to the new Pakistani regime, to spell out his doctrine. We will either see more Pakistani cooperation with the US afterwards as a result, or we will see a significant escalation in US incursions into Pakistan.  Any significant strikes against US forces by Pakistan during these operations may result their nuclear capability being crippled by the US in retaliation. Given the vulnerability to India that will result, the Pakistanis obviously do not want this to happen.

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By yellowbird2525, September 26, 2008 at 9:12 am Link to this comment

WHY did the USA LIE to it’s people & deliberately mislead & deceive as to Saddam Hussain being behind 911? Why did the Pentagon overbilling group which overbills & “loses” equipment which Congressmen back up which is a lie: cuz it is on paper only: the equipment was never bought: kinda like the “developers” do: when they “sale” homes without any cash down; on paperwork only; when collecting the taxes repeatedly: finish one country time for another since grandpa’s day: they kept the $ for themselves & gave “commodities” ie cheese; frozen chicken legs etc to “countries”; in giving “aid” they keep 2/3s for themselves claiming “overhead costs”; sending the aids virus to Africa with polio vaccines in 1950; yet the “churchs” are given the lie that it’s “God’s judgement”; why was there semen on Monica L’s dress & Edwards might have a child? IF they had ANY thought that they KNEW that they would not get aids? Why are the people of the USA of the mindframe that we MUST spread! this “good” Gov we have everywhere! when in reality: everyone BUT the people of the USA KNOW the citizens of the USA have nothing but enslavement to Corps cuz their Gov works hand n hand with them against the people of their own land? LOOK at what people in Iceland, Norway, Sweden, etc all have for their people: and they have far more freedoms that the folks here do! Our Gov is NOT dysfunctional; it knows EXACTLY & PRECISELY what it does: and you decide; is it “good” or is it evil”? In my opionion they are called devils: and the devil folks is a deceiver. YOU figure it out.

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By yellowbird2525, September 26, 2008 at 8:24 am Link to this comment

sorry that was 70 different groups of mercenaries; not 70 of them total; might be far more than that now; and Bremer was talking of using criminals which they have in the past to “control” the people; oil companies frequently used known felons who supposedly could not get passports & travel outside of the USA in their overseas activities; resulting in multiple instances of rapes & assults & killings; but they never got prosecuted; so it should not be surprizing what is going on in Iraq with Haliburton & it’s subsidies huh.

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By yellowbird2525, September 26, 2008 at 8:21 am Link to this comment

Since the US is quite incapable of telling the truth they (the USA) did go over the border; as they did in Somalia; as they tried to start uprisings in S America thru the Ambassadors there as the heads of the countries refuse to be bribed & let the USA Corps go in to steal their land & water & harm the people: which of course will result in multiple millions more refugees here in the USA; THIS is the reason for the civil war in Mexico which will make it’s way into the states & why other countries want to get rid of corrupt politicians who bought into the garbage that the USA does; We have gotten away with it for years in the USA; THIS is the reason an Israli said to Obama: WE are not for sale; the HEAD of Isreal was: the people refused to follow & he is now gone; http://www.thetip.org; check out Paul Bremer & talks of global dominion; there are lists in books etc. Being so effective in the lawlessness here of the “lawmakers” harming the people & making the few excessively wealthy: they want to take it globally; look at India; they refused: and lo & behold! civil unrest; look to the USA Gov; using military might whom they declare all have mental problems & the Corps who run the USA declaring they will not hire vets once back; our Congress refusing to pay 1 cent to disabled while giving billions to mega Corps; having over what 70 now “mercenary” folks and their expertise is training torturers; yes: this is the “great” USA way; disgusting isn’t it?

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By Eso, September 26, 2008 at 3:09 am Link to this comment

One can only associate this as an effort to intimidate Pakistan, to force it to desist from challenging the U.S. as it goes after the Taliban, because… there are the Indians to the east of Pakistan. This is a very dangerous situation, because of the fact that both sides possess nuclear weapons and may not hesitate for long before using them. What will happen with the 2nd, 3rd, 4th helicopter intrusion over its borders? Will all be quiet (muffled explosions only) on Pakistan’s western front, so the government can put the troops on its eastern front?

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By Fadel Abdallah, September 25, 2008 at 8:59 pm Link to this comment

Naturally, any alliances based on unholy principles are bound to fall apart when one of the pillars of that alliance tumbles down. Musharraf, was one pillar of such unholy alliance that was already brought down. Bush, the other pillar is about to be brought down in about three months, preceded by the natural current crises that his evil presidency brought to both the moral fabric and the treasury of this country.

The good part of this is that the American empire is now going through its last agonies of death, and I hope that decent Americans can absorb the moral lesson of the hard tumble and move to reestablish the foundation of this country on the more solid foundations of morality and ethics in conducting their economy as well as their foreign policy!

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