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Lose Your Home, Lose Your VotePosted on Sep 25, 2008
The tanking economy is screwing over citizens both as homeowners and voters. The past two years have seen more than 1 million people lose their homes through foreclosure, and November’s election may see the same people also disqualified from voting due to election laws requiring official notification of voters’ new addresses.
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By POWMIA, November 2, 2008 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment
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Some time ago, we lost home to Foreclosure Fraud and were escorted out of our family home at gun point!!!
Report thishave not had a home since then, by necessity move around often, with no new permanent address, and I stay whereever I can, i. e. sometimes with family, sometimes with friends, other times in motels or in car…all the while fighting to hold those who did this to us accountable and to get our home and assets back.
You guessed it, the Registrar of Voters purged my name from the rolls, so NO early voting, NO voting by mail, plus my old voting place is in a community behind a guard gate!!!!
I was told that I MAY be able to vote “provisionally”...yeah, right!!!!
Provisional votes are rarely counted so it would be like not voting at all!!!
By Purple Girl, September 26, 2008 at 7:21 am Link to this comment
I am no longer feeling generous or merciful- those who are attempting to suppress our Democratic Process wshould be Convicted of TREASON.
Report thisThe SOB in Macomb should be immediately arrested and Prosecuted for High Crimes. Then Sec of State Land should be th enext to be caught in the Dragnet of arrests for High crimes. SHE is Resposnible for the Fraudulant MI Primary- Intentional had scrambled ballot printed (in various Versions) for Democratic Voter- ‘With in Regualtions MY ASS!! Then she continued to Use the Already Confirmed Diebold machines which would LOGICALLY ALL BE PROGRAMMED TO READ BALLOTS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER!!!
Anyone who has EVER taken a Scantron test KNOW Each answer is put up against the already Pre programmed ‘master’
Tell Me Ms. Benedict Land….Why did you needless waste Taxpayer dollars to pay a Higher Prioce for the Short Runs due to your numerous Variations? Tell Me Ms. Benedict, HOW EXACTLY YOU ASSURED EACH MACHINE WAS PROGRAMMED TO MATCH THE UNIQUE BALLOT IN THAT DISTRICT!!!!!
Ms.Benedict Land, have NO Doubt the Democrats in this State KNEW your party was Trying to Hand Clinton the Win -so it would fire Up Your Republican Base..So You Rigged It!!! Your mouthpiece Whore Rush tipped Your TREASONOUS BLOOD SOAKED HANDS!!!
RESIGN NOW Before we not only Run you out of Office, but we Convict YOU ON HIGH CRIMES against the citizens of this State and ultimately against the United States!Death Penality Still Applies to TREASON!
Note Land & Accomplices latest Election rigging Fraud- hastily close Sec of State Office before the cut off of Voter Registration deadline. Closed One a Week Prior to it’s Scheduled Date.
If Granholm, Cherry Cox, Levin Stabenow Do NOTHING THEY ARE COMPLICITE in HER HIgh Crimes.
Get off Your Ass You SOB’s and Arrest this TRAITOR, or face the same Fate!
By yellowbird2525, September 25, 2008 at 10:24 pm Link to this comment
watching the st of Oregon freely passing out drivers licenses to illegals so that they can vote for years; even flying them in with taxpayers $: while the vets who were disabled in Iraq/Afghanistan had watered down meds; living in mold, mildew, rodents all around: and not a cent for the disabled: yet $, brand new cars/trucks/all benefits; gas vouchers; our Gov declaring all military personnel had mental problems while giving them medications to cause halluciations; and the Corps working with them saying we will not hire vets: 11/17/07; disabled vets denied AGAIN any $; oil companies given $13b; $275 given to big investors: and $475 given to give citizenship papers to illegals which are counterfeit as $3 bills; tell me, how are YOU going to “vote”? seems to me, what we need is a revolution & get rid of the politicians; bring our troops home which congress seems incapable of doing tho those in office now promised to do it; fed up with lies, deception & deceit; give me some good honest folk who are willing to work for minimum wage to get this country back; get the environmentalists going with their going green & to h*ll to the Corps who are complaining of a “recession” meaning “it might cost businesses money” (politician; lets close down the chemical companies putting agent orange in our seeds; let’s put an END to “Corp greed; & put social need before individual wealth; lets hang on to our religion & our guns! Every other country folks: is fully aware & cognizent of the fact that our nation is a dictatorship & we are enslaved to Corps; and wondering when in the blank we are going to do something about it; they have almost killed off the bees, and the bats; now they are going to destroy all the trees; and wildlife; isn’t it TIME for the PEOPLE to step up to the PLATE?
Report thisBy Big B, September 25, 2008 at 1:21 pm Link to this comment
If we were a true democracy you would be able to show up at your local voting precinct, show your photo ID, and vote.
But we are not a democracy, we are a republic, thus one man, one vote is a misnomer. In a republic, you don’t vote for someone who shares your views. You vote your proxy away to someone who will use it to push their own agenda. It is how our system has worked for over 200 years. It’s why we still have an electoral college. It’s why we still have a president.
Hell, 40-50% of the eligible voters won’t show anyway. The old idea of a republic has proven to disenfranchise more voters than a forclosure crisis ever could. People don’t vote for the oldest of reasons, they long ago came to the conclusion that their vote doesn’t matter. That change is impossible.
Are they wrong?
Report thisBy hippy pam, September 25, 2008 at 12:21 pm Link to this comment
CAN ANY ONE SPELL C…O…N…S…P…I…R…A…C…Y…...when those who have money and a home will get to VOTE and those that have been disposessed and are therefore- most likely-less monied….so the dispossessed,most likely,WILL NOT,MOST LIKELY,GET THE CHANCE-DUE TO A MISTAKE/LAW/WHATEVER..And “they”[P.T.Bs] can get in whom ever THEY WANT…[Isn’t that HOW “bullsh*t” got a second term?????????]
Report thisBy yacovm, September 25, 2008 at 11:08 am Link to this comment
Now here is where the air valve just barley inflates the balloon. Keep in mind that Holiday Florida is just a reference point and places like California and Miami holds the same principle just different prices. These loans usually carried an ARM which meant 5 years down the road Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac would be tacking on another 2.5-3% interest. These easy loans that owners had to put their signatures on, selling their souls sort of speak, compounded by falling prices.
Report thisBefore they got to that point there was a “get rich quick” craze going on and everybody and his brother became an overnight realtor by “flip that house.” or two or three or four, renting them or just fixing them up, and profiting by the fast rising house prices caused by the craze.
We can argue who is to blame, apparently both the home buyer and the lender is at fault. The lender acted recklessly and lent and lent and competed to lend. Mortgage and title companies were popping up all over leading the owners like sheep before the slaughter.
The balance of fault lies on the degree of greed. Could you blame the average Joe that wanted to get rich quick or the banks who should have had more sense?
Now we know how we got there lets propose how to get out. Giving 700 million to the same banks who got us here, paid for by the average Joe’s taxes and not only that but, Joe must barrow the money with interest just to give it to the ones who lent Joe the money for the house that he is now foreclosed on. That’s like Joe borrowing money to give to heroin dealers in order to make sure they have a steady supply of heroin that they could sell him.
We have another option but of course it will not be considered because the government thinks it is in their best interest to help the banks thinking it will save Wall Street. We have to let the air out of the balloon by getting the prices of homes closer to the year 2000. The way we can do that is instead of giving the money directly to the banks; give it to the notes that are over priced. Let’s start with Joe’s house and his only house for now. If he paid let’s say $200,000 and he is in foreclosure, reset the value to the year 2003. That means rewriting the note. The year used adjusting the house value would be determined on until the 700 billion is allocated to first every homeowner that will occupy that house(700 billion will just an arbitrary number for now or just a limit). This will in no doubt cause values to come down all over. This plan could be implemented to the relevance of importance. The homeless first then to the struggling families aiming at the outrageously over priced homes, this will hurt the rich and humble undeserving. There are Joe’s out there that flipped houses until he bestowed on half a million dollar house with an income that can’t support it. He should eventually be included in this bill.
It all comes down to the basics, supply & demand. Now the supply is high. By slashing prices will create gamut of demand. New loans, transparency and credit will flow like neighborhoods at a block-party. This is the way to bailout Main Street & Wall Street.
By yacovm, September 25, 2008 at 11:07 am Link to this comment
First let’s go back to the beginning starting at bubble, although I’d rather refer it to a balloon. In the year 2000 just after post doomsday Y2K the balloon was just placed on stem of the tank of air. During that year a house, let’s say in Holiday Florida would average at $50-60k. During that same year there were many types of easy loans such as HUD and Veteran (it wasn’t necessary to actually be a Vet, one just got a little better rate if you were) which made it very easy for the average individual with $500 and job to obtain approval. Section 8 had a role in this also. If they had 20% of the price of the home they didn’t even need a job. Actually they did, but what was referred to as a “no doc” all they had to do is just say they had an income.
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