At a meeting in Moscow on Thursday with a group of international Russia experts, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin gave an extensive explanation of his country’s point of view vis-à-vis the recent clash between Russia and Georgia. He made it clear that he believes the conflict was seriously, and even deliberately, misrepresented by the Western media.
International Herald-Tribune”
Putin seemed particularly stung by language used by the European Union, which condemned the Russian invasion as “disproportionate.” He said Georgian control posts, arms depots and radar stations were distributed across a wide area.
The Russians, he said, had no option but to proceed beyond the conflict zone and into Georgian-held territory—not unlike the Soviet Army in World War II, which kept fighting abroad even after it had driven Nazi forces back across their borders.
[...] Putin issued a great number of reassurances on Thursday: He said Russia had “no ideological conflict” with the West; he said he would be willing to eliminate stockpiles of nuclear weapons; he said he expected Georgians to oust their president, Mikheil Saakashvili, without any help from Russia. Russia, he said, was “not against anybody.”
Well, almost anybody; he spoke of the Western media with undisguised contempt.
“I am surprised at how powerful the propaganda machine of the so-called West is,” he said. “This is awesome! Amazing!” Watching electronic media from Beijing, where he was for the opening of the Olympic Games, during the first days of the crisis, he said, he saw “absolute silence, as if nothing was happening. As if this was commanded. I congratulate you. I congratulate those who were involved in this.”
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By Fahrenheit 451, September 15, 2008 at 6:31 am Link to this comment
Sorry, I’m feeling frisky; Putin (a black belt in karate) probably looked at Bush and thought; one kick and the poser’s done! What a pussy!!
Report thisBy Fahrenheit 451, September 14, 2008 at 3:28 am Link to this comment
It’s pretty obvious the U.S. and Israel got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Putin is of course correct; the western propaganda machine is in full swing and their minions obey every command.
Report thisBy Maricia, September 13, 2008 at 6:13 pm Link to this comment
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This is the answer to G. Andersons question——-When Putin looked into Bush’s eyes, I believe he thought he saw the DEVIL!
Report thisBy samosamo, September 13, 2008 at 4:59 pm Link to this comment
This was nothing but a U.S. land grab of the two small territories georgia attempted to claim. Probably would have gone a good way in blocking russia out of the region, rich in oil infrastructure and resources. Georgia just played the fuckboy of the US so that, if it worked, the US would have plausible denial but would definitely come out on the high end of money and oil.
Report thisRussia ain’t no saint but america is even less so. And I find it hard to realize but with a good size amount of scepticism of russia, I do believe what russia says more so than our government. Because, other than this push of georgia out of another’s territory, how much responsibility do they have for the hell that is visiting this planet now? American unfettered corporatism in far far more destructive than really any other country on the planet.
By PatrickHenry, September 13, 2008 at 2:34 pm Link to this comment
By Leefeller, September 13 at 6:59 am #
Actually it has Israeli hand and footprints all over it on many levels and for so many reasons.
The U.S. was in the passenger seat.
Report thisBy peacenik1, September 13, 2008 at 2:27 pm Link to this comment
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Don’t you just love it! Vladimir Putin is giving us an accurate assessment of our corporate-controlled U.S. media. Made my day!
Not that I’m one of Putin’s big fans—but you have to admit the guy’s right on target. The average American couldn’t tell you right now who started the recent Georgia-Russia clash. Just ask the next ten people you meet.
If Georgians are smart (and I believe they are), they will give Mikheil Saakashvili the heave-ho and elect a leader who will function as a peacemaker instead of someone who could trigger another Cold War with the West.
We CAN and we MUST get along with Russia if there is ever to be peace in our war-torn world. And it’s in Russia’s best interests to get along with us.
Report thisBy yours truly, September 13, 2008 at 11:51 am Link to this comment
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What Does The Russo-Georgian War Have In Common With Last Week’s Coup Attempts In Bolivia & Venezuela?
“Our government’s involvement and mainstream media’s
fidelity in carrying out its role as ministry of propaganda for the powers that be.”
“And the answer?”
“Our electing someone president who’s going to dismantle Empire-USA plus turning things around here at home.”
“And then what sort of world?”
“It’ll be up to us.”
Report thisBy Leefeller, September 13, 2008 at 7:59 am Link to this comment
If I was going to buy a used car from someone, I would choose Putmn, over anyone in the White House and Congress. In fact, if I could I would vote for him as president over anyone in the White House.
The whole Georga folly has the USA’s hand prints all over it, we must demonize Russia and anyone else who does not agree with our corporatism programs and new world order.
It is so sad, my feeling is Russia could have made a great friend in working together moving into the future.
Report thisBy Maria, September 13, 2008 at 7:11 am Link to this comment
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The Bush administration actively encouraged Saakashvilli to start conflict in South Ossetia. - Should we say, to commit war crimes in S. Ossetia? This is a link to the article in Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/13/russia.georgia
Report thisBy Purple Girl, September 13, 2008 at 6:05 am Link to this comment
Mrs “Independent Alaska’ should be commending Russia’s assistance to Separationists- it’s right up her ideological Alley!
Report thiswhy is she not sticking to her ‘Beliefs’ Now.
Frankly if she did I may have One thing I asgree with her on.
Frankly I could have cared less is AK Broke off too. And after th eExample of the Sate Palin has presented I strongly Recommend it too- maybe we Should just disown them.Let them keep their antiquated Oil Fields, Continue to be the endentured slave to Big Oil (esp after we kick them off our Land and off our shores and make them compete with US on the Free Energy market stage).and of course they can keep their ‘Fresh fish’ and Crabs- We have plenty of lakes and the East coast for Lobster.
Considering what degree of Rape & Pillage the Oil Corps would do anyway- who would want that tainted Sea food anyway?
So Sarah why settle for Second Banana- why don’t you go back to AK and Run for Pres of your new Breakaway Country- hell even feel free to call it Sarahland!
By Frostedflakes, September 13, 2008 at 6:00 am Link to this comment
Putin is right about the propaganda machine, which is in full force with the Repug campaign, and he is also right about the fact that Georgia began the conflict. Cheney and crew have only their own interests in mind when they speak of the defense of Georgia, and if there was no oil involved there would be no issue.
Report thisBy dsmith, September 13, 2008 at 5:48 am Link to this comment
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It has been reported that Israel’s armament industry is supplying the Georgians with heavy duty weapons(These are the same weapons the Georgians used against the Russians during the recent military action). Also, reported at Antiwar.com, Israel plans to use Georgia as a base for their bombers when they decide to illegally bomb the soverign country of Iran. A little known fact about Georgia is that both the minister of defense and another top military offical…are both Jewish and rabid Zionist. This is an important connection.
Remember in the 1960’s, when Russia was supplying Cuba with rockets, we came very close to going to war with Russia, over their attempt to create a satellite base so close to the US mainland. Russia, understandably, is not going to simply yawn while Isreal and the US attempt to create an extension of western aggression in Georgia.
Putin is also right about our neocon controlled media. Not a word on any of the networks about the Israeli and US involvement in yet another war.
Report thisBy jackpine savage, September 13, 2008 at 5:38 am Link to this comment
G,
That’s a great question! I would imagine that he wondered why “DeWalt” isn’t tattooed on Bush’s forehead…he’s no ordinary tool, he’s high class. On a more serious note, my guess is that Putin looked right past him to concentrate on the men who pull the strings.
For all that we can say about how bad V.V. Putin is, we really can’t say that Russia, under his leadership, has done anything but be a more responsible then average member of the world community.
This use of the word “disproportionate” really irks me. Nobody ever won a war by using proportionate force. We didn’t fly a couple of passenger jets into the landmarks of Kabul and Kandahar and call it good, did we?
I wish that Putin had illustrated his Western Media point with that old Soviet joke: there’s no truth in the news and no news in the truth.
Report thisBy JMTAC, September 12, 2008 at 11:45 pm Link to this comment
People may not want to believe this, but I strongly feel that Putin is doing a great service to the world, particularly the people of the US by saying this. He’s calling Cheney out! Cheney and his war profiters have been lurking around Georgia, just like he did pre-Iraq, just salivating at the thought of obtaining their oil connection. So what does Cheney do, he goes around preaching about how evil Putin/Russia are and that they are the such a threat to democracy….blah, blah, blah. Same old crap that he pulled with Iraq. What’s worse is that the American media is buying it and dishing it out. And then you have this crazy VP candidate going on “the record” (without hesitation mind you)saying that the US should take military action against Russia over this Georgian conflict! Where’s the F^&%$$ rational?!!! I sure would love to toss Cheney and Palin into the middle of a war zone for a week or so and see if they would utter those same war mongering words.
Report thisThe US is in dire need of an administration that knows how to communicate to the leaders of the world. Unlike the past 8 years of belligerent words and petty insults. The people of the world are getting sick of it!
This Republican administration has to go! How much more corruption will it take for the people of the US to say, “ENOUGH!!!!”
By G.Anderson, September 12, 2008 at 9:58 pm Link to this comment
I wonder what Putin thought when he looked into Bush’s eyes?
Report thisBy yellowbird2525, September 12, 2008 at 9:57 pm Link to this comment
This is because the Corps who own & run this countrys politicians & order the laws: OWN & OPERATE the media; started by Clinton when he was in office; as was the NAU: when he went & bribed & flattered the Pres of Mexico; you are now a “powerful political elite”; you can do whatever you want & never be prosecuted! after all we’ve done it for years in the USA & gotten away with it! And so sadly the people lost their land, and water rights & their constitution; THIS is the LAND that the folks DID lose; and are losing in country after country as this same scenario is being carried out; with the strength of the military might of the USA; and just like the religious leaders told the Jews to go quietly & calmly & do what the “authorities” asked of them: John Hagees claims the killing of 6 million of God’s chosen people as being God’s will; and so he also calls for the bombing of Iran; going to SPREAD this Government who kills, steals, & destroys: kills babies, children, mom’s & dads: poisoning, & worse: http://www.naturalnews.com; 100% of breastfeeding mom’s in study had toxins in their breastmilk from nonstick cookware; that was declared to be toxic in 1996; the writer says to the answer what kind of cookware should we cook in? NONE; eat raw! NO; but aluminum cookware, & pans are so TOXIC that they are no even made or allowed into Canada & most other countries; THIS is the reason for the increase in alzheimers: excessive aluminum in the brain; along with the aluminum used in all deoderants in the market place unless you go to Health food store or on line: THIS is “democracy”; The cookware that is SAFE to use: is IRON, stainless steel for awhile; enamel over cast iron; the new “green” line of cookware available on HSN. Heating temps on stovetops are often 700 degrees or higher; watch the video on HSN. Iron will NOT harm you in the amounts you cook in; in fact most folks are LOW in it. To bad the MEDIA is so censored the PEOPLE never get told the TRUTH!
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