fedupinfla,

Your post hits on many points some of us see, it will depend on if there are enough of us to see and understand it come November.

Watching the Presidential forum tonight, some things struck me as disingenuous & hypocritical….
McCain says that more people in America need to “serve” their country. To be more actively involved in making their neighborhoods better & making government better. Yet correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t his OWN VP pick denegrate “community activists”?? Palin mocked Obama for HIS community service and now McCain is saying MORE Americans need to do the same kind of community service OBAMA did!!! WHY should they bother? Its obvious their activism & volunteer work won’t be appreciated. Matter of fact, they’ll only be ridiculed for it. And I hate to tell ya John, but with more & more people having to work 2 jobs, who the hell has TIME for volunteer work!!?!! And stop blaming Obama for HER comments. She was NOT defending herself against smears. HE never said ONE WORD about her qualifications. WE the American people wanted to know what they were, as we have every right to!! WE are the ones who demand OUR OWN chance to “vet” her. You sure had a LOT to say about what YOU thought about Obama’s qualifications to be President.

Also, McCain wants to expand the military but he voted AGAINST veterans benefits. HIS was the deciding vote to pass the GI bill and he said NO! He wants to send your children to war but when they get home, he doesn’t want to pay for them to go to college or receive the full medical benefits & pay they deserve!!! AND WHY???  HIS kids don’t have to worry about going to college on a GI Bill and HIS kids are covered under Government insurance!  (And HIS kids have 7 houses to choose from!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_9sI7hzAc

He’s also blaming the tone of the campaign on Obama!!! He’s saying that things wouldn’t have gotten ugly if only Obama had agreed to town hall debates. So in other words, Obama didn’t want to run HIS campaign by McCain’s rules so he decided to act like a petulant little boy by taking his toys and going home mad. He would NOT admit that he thought Obama called Palin a “pig”. Even though he’s approved ads claiming he believed so! Typical bully! You’ll say things behind someone’s back but when you’re called on it, you back down!!! He stands behind a fence and throws mud and denies it to your face when cornered. And THIS is your honorable war hero?!?! When asked further about the nasty tone the campaign has taken, he dodged the question totally and said it should be based on ISSUES. THIS coming from the man that approved ads claiming Obama wanted to teach kindergardners sex ed? THIS coming from the man who approved ads with wolves stalking poor, helpless Palin?? THIS coming from the man that has LIED about Obama’s tax policy??? THIS coming from the man that hired Steve Schmidt, Rick Davis, & KARL ROVE to manage his campaign? You can’t hire men that use lies, distractions & shady tactics and then claim YOU’RE the one running a honorable campaign! It doesn’t work that way John!! “Do as I say, not as I do” won’t work anymore!!
And get this…In the middle of the fumbling answer he gave about Palin’s mayoral experience, he stated how she had more duties than any other job in America even harder than HIS job in Washington since he was, and I quote “more divorced from the day to day lives of American people” I’m NOT making this crap up people…Wait awhile and watch it on youtube yourself! This man admitted for the 1st time that he doesn’t know what the majority of people in this country are going through. And THIS is the man you want to trust with YOU & your CHILDREN’s future? You REALLY expect a man with his own jet, 7 homes, and a wife that can afford 300k on an outfit to give a DAMN if you have to buy generic groceries because the prices have doubled in the last 8yrs? If so, then you deserve what you get….

By Leefeller, September 11 at 6:26 pm #
D.C. You make it sound like you are an Indian or Native American, or are you just a troll?  It seems the Native Americans would have much more respect for the wolf, than Palin does and have much more respect for the hunting grounds than what you describe.
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Ah Leefeller,

You noticed this as well. I was going to respond to DC in something of the same manner. I was ready to say that he damn sure wasn’t speaking for ALL Indians or Native Americans, and if he were actually a Native American himself, he wouldn’t even be ATTEMPTING to. That makes him/her a troll.

Scooter Libby is about as close as we will see any of the White House Cronies being in prison.  Remember impeachment is off the table.  My opinion, differences between the two parties is minuscule and perceived differences are really an illusion for show.

Good question Rage,

•  “..Off the subject, I had no idea you had experience as a caregiver to Chimperor Dumya the Demented. Now, does Laura keep him caged all the time between Presidential addresses, or is there some sort of schedule?..”

If I was close enough or informed enough to answer, (at least on the caging schedule) I’m sure I’d be as crazy as they are. And, since I am very protective of my own mental health, I stay as far away as I can. (that’s why I had to escape Texas – he’s ALWAYS been this demented, which is what makes it all the more terrifying that so many people actually voted for him both times, even if they still had to cheat both times) .

But, all of these terrible years later, the only cage schedule I care about for the Chimperor is the jail schedule. I wanna see the ‘life in prison’ schedule for his ass.

D.C. You make it sound like you are an Indian or Native American, or are you just a troll?  It seems the Native Americans would have much more respect for the wolf, than Palin does and have much more respect for the hunting grounds than what you describe.

Lets see, we get to choose between two teams, Wolf Killer Vice President not for long Palin and Crash seven house McCane verses Attack Pakistan Obama and V.P. war-hawk Biden.  Don’t know about you but Ron Paul is looking mighty good right now. Choosing between two teams who I feel represent only the bad and the ugly is becoming quite annoying. 

Well, the only thing is, I can vote for the least annoying moving into the White House for 4 years,  only because I would prefer to listen to him than mumbles McCain.

Leefeller writes:
•  “Seems we could have politicians brains checked before they run for office and make sure they have the truth brain cells unless they are running for the Republican Party, then they would want the other kind.”

Leefeller, I think you’ve hit on something here, even though I recognize (and appreciate) the humor/irony/sarcasm here. But, on the more serious side, the mental health of any leader SHOULD BE a serious issue. Maybe even the most serious.

I can’t and won’t claim to be a mental health care expert based on a long ago BA in psychology. But I can and will claim to be a common sense expert based on years of serving the public, and dealing with families where there is a history of mental illness or personality disorders.

Our society puts other professionals through a battery of tests for exactly this very thing, because it IS so important. Yet we put psychopaths in charge of the whole fucking country, and seem willing enough to continue to do that.

THAT is what keeps me shitless.

Re: Cran Berry

You appear to know a lot about things, Cran Berry. What is the scoop on Palin’s husband and this Alaskan political organization? Nobody seems to know much about these people, even ABC’s Gibson doesn’t want to talk about them. Seems to me the least McCain could do is tell the American people where the group rates on the Homeland Security scale.

Thomas Billis,

We could torture the candidates before preforming a lobotomy allowing us to find out who had more white or Grey brain cells.  Me thinks, Palin would be very handy at preforming a lobotomy.

You know lies defined can be taking a horizontal position, so how can McCain lie about lies? Lies can also mean making a false statement, so McCain is not telling the truth about being horizontal or is he being horizontal and not telling the truth?  So maybe they are saying McCain is intentionally making false statements about false statements?

If one does something which is said to be intentional, how can anyone other than the one with the intentions know it was intentional? Like George Washington, McCain cannot tell a lie but for different reasons.

On one hand we are told McCain does not know were he is or how many houses he owns, what year it is and why he is standing in front of a Microphone with a hotie wearing glasses who talks about killing things.

Then we are lead to believe McCain is and has intentionally lied. How could he intentionally lie or make a decision on anything, simply because he does not know where he is and why he is? 

His constant asking the same old question; “Where am I, why am I here?”; should be a clue. Of course George Washington did not use the word intentionally after cutting down his fathers cherry tree.

Leefeller.Why have debates why have campaigning?We should have one debate where the candidates get tortured and one where they gut a moose.Seems to be your only qualifications for public office.

Purple Girl,

Any woman like Palin who breaks water and not run to hospital, before gutting a Moose and hauling it back to camp is okay by me and has my vote. She reminds me of a female Paul Bunyun a super hero we so need in the White House, now we get two for the price of one.

Focus Group Response Mac’s Puppet masters….
I saw those Wolves and pictured Plain shooting them from a plane over head- ‘Heckova Job!”
As a daughter of a life long hunter- I am appauled by the ‘Hunting’ expedition Plain went on.Did she refer to this heinous act as a ‘Safari’?
Let me tell Mrs Palin about what REAL hunters do- at least in Michigan. they get up about 4 am. Get their gear together, get in their long johns, heavy pants &  sweaters, put on their heavy but warm water proof boots, camo or orange Carharts, Drive to a Wide open area(owned or Leased), drag all their stuff up a tree stand and SIT!!!And afterwards they do everything in reverse- if they gat one they have to Field dress it and drag it out.Then pay to process, or do it themselves.
Hunters in MI LOVE NATURE!It’s NOT about getting one -IT’S THE DAMN HUNT!!!It’s the patience, the scenery, the sounds, the chance, the ‘part of nature’experience- Man against Beast. My father was hunting out west, seated under a tree, when a feamle Moose and her calf came by- she charged him- lucky she didn’t come around the Tree or she would have killed him- she hit the tree instead of him, and he just stayed behind it until she turned back to her calf and left him.That is a HUNTING STORY!
My B-I-L got poison ivy all over his ass while out hunting all day…THAT’S A HUNTING STORY
Put that is not the only story of Palins tht Offends this 45 yr old White Blue collar Female….Palins Birth story is even more offensive to women then even her ‘hunting ‘Story is to REAL Hunters, and the families who worry about them everytime they go- deer attack too, or get shot by another hunter by accident, have a heart attack (Dad’s 77),Fall out of the Tree stand…
These Two stories tell volumes about the Real Sarah Palin - Her judgement, her priorities and her level of Compassion for anything!

You know their is some medical proof that chronic liars have more gray or more white brain cells than non liars (cannot remember which).  Anyone see the medical journals on this?  All we have to do is compare Bush and McCain’s brains to Mother Teresa’s to clear up the confusion.  Seems we could have politicians brains checked before they run for office and make sure they have the truth brain cells unless they are running for the Republican Party, then they would want the other kind.

they poison every possible conceivable thing: babies die more here than in any other country: and they put an article on ABCnews pointing to the poor prenatal care instead of taking the responsiblity: that infants formulas are 52% corn syrup; have growth hormone & other toxins in them; their shampoos contain asparteme; the laundry soaps are full of chemicals along with the dryer sheets specifically manmade perfumes to cause the most damage to humans; cleaning your homes thinking you are cleaning exposing toxic waste up to 5 times higher than outside; clothing everything new is saturated with formaldehyde the most toxic chemical to harm humans & there is literally no other reason for it being used other than to cause health problems so their sister company can get $; and folks get hung up on abortion or no: and the SIDS report was the babies have a chemical in their brain; big surprise! and the people do nothing.

politians are all liars; futhermore, they fully expect that the public is ignorant; they believe that Americans are gullilble & rightly so: we have never overthrown the Gov; they add $7.50 more to the electric bills we have been overbilled for for years: and do nothing; they give illegals political patronage & favor over citizens; giving them brand new cars/trucks/money/no interest loans, pay back when you can; give them gas vouchers; while our Gov & Corps working together proclaim no $ for the vets; they say “all military personnel have mental problems & Corps say don’t want to hire vets cuz they have mental problems; the VA deliberately gives them “meds” that cause hallucinations; they also claim no $ & give no medicines to hospitals for them; most disabled vets have yet after 5 years to receive a cent for disability; so do US citizens who have worked for that right; and the people ponder & think who do we want in for Pres? get a grip & a life! NO ONE going into the Pres is any different than any other member of Congress; or Gov who all actively are working against the people of the USA.

It’s truly sad that an unknown can become so sensationalized.  What I first read about her was an editorial in the Jan 08 Anchorage Daily News about how un-Governor like her behavior was on a shock jock show. http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/295464.html
She gets other people to do the bad mouthing for her when someone doesn’t bend to her will.
She got help from the mayor of Wasilla and then ran against him, polarizing the campaign, making it about right to life and getting endorsements from a national organization.  Murkowski helped her out after she lost running as Lieutenant Governor, and then turned around and got his job.  Watch out McCain!

If the lies and distortions didn’t work, the GOP wouldn’t resort to it.  I wish people would look beyond their preconceived prejudices and see what’s really happening.  We have got to look like fools to the civilized world, making an election hinge on whether lipstick on a pig is a sexist remark.  I loved it when NPR aired McCain using the same analogy when he referred to Hilary Clinton and her health care reforms.
My favorite blog is this one:  Jesus Christ was a community organizer.  Pontius Pilate was a governor.
God help keep Sarah Palin from dealing with Puten in the next cold war the incubents are brewing up.

This McCain is really sick to every bone and nerve of his being! His place is in a mental institution. It was a bad day for humanity when he came back alive from Vietnam as a very sick man and very mentally disturbed!

I don’t know how people who watch him cannot see all that apparent sickness!

The McCain campaign has done what Bush did. Just keep repeating the lies over and over again.

Because in the past few of the lies were challeged, and even if they were, eventually because they we’re repeated often enough, the kept the truth from making any headlines.

This is just more proof that McCain is McBush.

They hope to make Palin the only issue throughout the campaign in order to take attention off the eight year nightmare of Bush/Cheney.  Again it’s the strategy of accusing Obama of what they themselves did to him.  They spent all spring and summer trying to dig up dirt on him in Chicago and didn’t come up with anything.  Earlier in the summer there was an article in the National Review in which a guy they (republican operatives) had sent to Chicago to see what he could find, told how the only thing he came up with was that Obama had wanted to be a writer and had written some short stories.  I suppose that being a writer would be considered subversive by republians but they couldn’t make anything of it.

Emboldened by Bush’s lack of accountability for his serial lying, McCain is playing the same Rovian tune.

After it became increasingly obvious that the seemingly robotic McCain with the bankrupt Bush legacy could not effectively run against Obama, McCain’s Rovian advisors prompted a desperate McCain to choose a young, female radical conservative. She is opportunistic, has messianic delusions, and the same capacity for lying as Bush.

The serial lying started with her speech at the Republican National Convention and has been sustained and augmented by campaign partners since.

“I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending.and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere.”

The latest tabulation for this lie is 25: McCain, 4; Palin, 7; TV Ads, 1; and surrogates, 13.

The media, as was customary with Bush, ignores the lies.

What is the truth?

A Palin supported the bridge to an island with 50 residents until the plan was ridiculed nationally by McCain himself.

As we can see, there is no subtlety in this game of lies. If unchallenged, the practice is emboldened and enlarged. Goebbels, the propaganda minister for Hitler over half a century ago, said the bigger the lie the more the public will believe it.

Palin, like Bush before her, has deluded herself into believing that God supports her and her radical right-wing ideas. Last June, she told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a “task that is from God.”

Suggesting God serves gas companies, she said, “..she’d work to implement God’s will from the governor’s office, including creating jobs by building a pipeline to bring North Slope natural gas to North American markets. God’s will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that.”

Another category of lying is the Orwellian invention, saying the opposite of the truth. “A McCain-Palin administration” would “move forward on solar, wind, geothermal, and other alternative sources.” The truth is that she and McCain are soul-mate Luddites. She believes alternative-energy solutions are over ten years away and that global warming is a myth invented by liberals. McCain has consistently voted against renewables but boldly calls himself “green”.

Either under the realm of ignorance or a stridency unchecked by the media, speaking in Colorado last weekend, Palin said that lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” The companies, however, “aren’t taxpayer funded but operate as private companies…that is until this week.

Palin and McCain have campaign allies in the lying business.

One of the whoppers at the Republican Convention was told by Mike Huckabee who said that Palin “got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president.” Actually Palin got 616 votes in 1996 and 1,525 votes in 1999 while Biden got 76,165 in 23 states before dropping out of the race.

And Mitt Romney said in his convention speech, “We need change, all right – change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington!” His prescription was, “to throw out big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.”

It is another fabrication, for with eight years of Bush and seven years of a Republican majority, great damage was done to our lives. The Democrats became the majority party last year, hampered at every turn by Bush and Republicans.

With Palin being isolated from the media by the McCain campaign, only scheduled to interview with ABC’s Charlie Gibson, she cannot be challenged regarding her many lies told to the American people.

The obvious purpose of the lies is to give Republicans four more years in the White House.

And certainly Palin would say that God wills it?

Hey lies and distortions got a chimp elected President.Why stop now?What are they going to do run on their record of the last 8 years or that Sarah Palin is a right wing nut job.No. They have so little respect for the intelligenc of the American people they will just make it up and lie along the way.