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Posted on Sep 1, 2008

If it seems like Sarah Palin Day, that’s because the McCain campaign decided to do the bulk of its news dumping during the holiday. On top of her husband’s DUI, her unmarried teen daughter’s pregnancy and her own state trooper issues, we now know about this bizarre nugget: Sarah Palin and her husband, according to the group’s chair, were once members of the Alaskan Independence Party, a political party that seeks a vote on Alaska withdrawing from the union.

Country first, indeed.

Time’s Mark Halperin says lawyers and journos are flocking to Alaska to probe this new national figure, who, it now seems, may have missed out on a full vetting.

ABC News / Political Punch:

Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.

“We are a state’s rights party,” says Clark, a self-employed goldminer. The AIP has “a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law.”

She says it’s not accurate to describe the party as secessionist—they just want a vote, she says, adding that the members of the AIP hold different opinions on what Alaska should be.

“My own separate opinion as an individual is that we should be an independent nation,” Clark says. Others in the AIP “believe that being a commonwealth would be a good avenue to follow.” Some advocate statehood—but a fuller statehood than exists now.

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By MsSwin, September 3, 2008 at 12:37 am Link to this comment
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Have been pulling together and double checking, information on Palin’s ties to the AIP along with other information coming to light.

If interested, check it out here:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/McCain-s-VP-Pick-Former-Me-by-Judy-Swindler-080901-464.html

The more information gets posted in comment sections to upcoming news articles about Palin and the blogs, the quicker Americans will know the real Palin and understand why we cannot afford to elect John McCain.

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By Singularity, September 2, 2008 at 6:07 pm Link to this comment
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So if I remember hearing correctly Obama quite clearly stated: “LEAVE FAMILY OUT OF IT.”  Now if ya all could perhaps step down off of the left field fence and think… just a little. 

So be it, if her husband has a D.U.I. is she the one with the record?

If her daughter is pregnant, is she the one that is knocked up and not married?

This is why we leave family out of a political race… I’m not even going to say anything negative about Obama’s family.

and for the record: 60-40 is not a landslide, not even 65-35. 90-10 that’s a landslide, 85-15 definitely!

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By Paracelsus, September 2, 2008 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment

Below is the statement of the League of the South on racism. They disavow being a racialist organization. From their own statements they advocate a theocracy of some sort. I will post the research of the SPLC as well.


http://dixienet.org/New Site/statementonracism.shtml

League of the South Statement on “Racism”
LS Board of Directors
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We believe that Christianity and social order require that all people, regardless of race, must be equal before the law. We do not believe that the law should be used to persecute, oppress, or favour any race or class.

We believe that the only harmony possible between the races, as between all natural differences among human beings, begins in submitting to Jesus Christ’s commandment to “love our neighbours as ourselves.” That is the world we envision and work for.

We believe that the politics of race—baiting whites against blacks and blacks against white has been profitable for politicians but catastrophic for the South and Southerners.

We believe that all Southerners - black and white - want and need the same things: a safe country for their families, liberty, and the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We believe that the last thing the South’s enemies want is to see black and white Southerners sitting down together to determine their common destiny and work for authentic harmony, a just social and economic order, and an independent South. We can’t foretell precisely what that order will look like, but certainly it will not make room for diversity police and political correctness. Rather, we hope it will bring the greatest freedom for the greatest number of all races, and good will among them all.

The League of the South Board of Directors
21 June 2005

And from SPLC

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=250

Instead, Hill has concentrated his fire on the minorities he is certain are destroying America.

Hill is no aberration in the LOS, a group that has grown to include 9,000 people organized into 96 chapters in 20 states. Despite the group’s claims that it will brook no racists, the League is rife with white supremacists and racist ideology.

One key LOS figure and old Hill colleague, a man who is the former head of the LOS chapter in Tuscaloosa (Ala.) County where the League got its start, was even blunter than his leader in his own AlaReb posting about black-on-white crime.

“You see the day is coming when we will NEED a new type of Klan,” G. David Cooksey wrote after the Central Park incidents in June. “Yes I said Klan!! If push comes to shove I’m for it! ... Time has come to stop this crap now!

“Or would you all like to see your daughters raped???”

Academics Set the Tone
The League of the South, first known as the Southern League, was founded in 1994 by Hill and a group of 40 other people. At first, the LOS appeared to be concerned primarily with questions of Southern culture, threatening to push for secession, at least rhetorically, as a final resort if what were seen as the rights and dignity of the South were not respected.

It keyed in on the notion that Southerners alone among U.S. population groups were commonly denigrated by the “politically correct” dominant culture, seen as emanating from the Yankee North.

And it pushed the idea of the South as fundamentally Christian, calling, in effect, for imposition of a theocracy — a government in which prayers and other religious observances would be common, and mandatory, in public life.

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Obviously, I don’t think Palin had good judgment in choosing to speak to that group. I wonder what she really thinks about race relations.

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By cann4ing, September 2, 2008 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

“Max Blumenthal of The Nation reports last week, while the media focused almost obsessively on the DNC’s spectacle in Denver, the country’s most influential conservatives met quietly at a hotel in downtown Minneapolis to get to know Sarah Palin. The assembled were members of the Council for National Policy, an ultra-secretive cabal that networks wealthy right-wing donors together with top conservative operatives to plan long-term movement strategy.”

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/2/report_secretive_right_wing_group_vetted

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By MsSwin, September 2, 2008 at 3:28 pm Link to this comment
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Confirmed: Todd Palin has been shown to be a member from October 1995 through July 2002, other than a few months in the year 2000.

McCain campaign still insists Palin did not have any connection with AIP and did not attend the 1994 convention, even though various AIP officials say she was a member and did, in fact, attend.  Mark Chryson, a former chairman from 1995 through 2002 told ABC News that “Palin was at the convention in 1994. She was there.”  When asked if she was a member, Chryson stated “She may have been, I do not know…ask Sarah.”

It is hard to prove or dissprove membership because AIP membership records do not go back to the years in question.

Palin did, as governor, send a video in a show of support to the 2008 convention, even though the AIP vice chair not only attended but gave a speech at last year’s 2nd Secessionist Conference in Chattanooga, Tennessee which was sponsored by the League of the South, a neo-Confederate party which has been named by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group.

Also confirmed, the F.B.I. did not vet Palin or her family as told to the Washington Post by the McCain campaign.

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By cann4ing, September 2, 2008 at 1:55 pm Link to this comment

All truth diggers who value democracy and the First Amendment should sign the “Amy Goodman Arrested - Stand up for Democracy!” petition at http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/amy-goodman-arrested—-stand-up-for-democracy.

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By cann4ing, September 2, 2008 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment

FrostedFlakes:  You may well be right that Palin may drop out, but do you recall what happened to George McGovern was forced to drop his first VP choice, Thomas Eagleton when evidence of psychological troubles surfaced.  McGovern replaced Eagelton with Sargent Shriver and then went on to lose every state except MA (he also won in DC) to Richard Nixon.

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By Tony Wicher, September 2, 2008 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment

I hope he puts Lieberman on. After he kicks Palin off the ticket and his reputation for mature judgment has been shredded forever, all he needs is a little “jomentum” to fire up his ticket. The landslide will go from 60-40 to 65-35.

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By Paracelsus, September 2, 2008 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment

Ron Paul had something interesting to say about Palin. If only one of the major candidates promised to dismantle the Patriot Act, and withdraw our troops from Eurasia I would vote for him. Oh well.

http://www.infowars.net/articles/September2008/020908McCain_Paul.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_O_fYgjTdQ

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By FrostedFlakes, September 2, 2008 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment
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Palin will most likely resign in the next two weeks which will then allow the repugs to slide Liebermann or Romney onto the ticket.

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By cann4ing, September 2, 2008 at 10:19 am Link to this comment

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It’s becoming more and more obvious that Palin was not properly vetted.

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Precisely!  That’s because it is probable that McCain had actually picked Pawlenty.  Then he and his Karl Rove acolytes were slammed by Obama’s brilliant oration which the ultra-conservative Pat Buchanan described as the best acceptance speech he had heard in his life time.  Obama picked up every one of the Swift Boat canards that the Rove acolytes had mustered in their deceptive, multi-million dollar ads and slammed them back into McCain’s puffy face.

What we have seen from the likes of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney & John McCain is a group of bullies.  They simply don’t know how to deal with a Democrat who actually hits back.

Realizing they would not be able to Swift Boat their way through the election, the McCain camp panicked.  McCain, like most Republican men, with our without their Stepford wives in tow, habitually underestimates the intelligence of American women—who make up 60% of the current enrollment in our colleges and universities—women who vote not based not on the gender of a candidate but on the substance of their policies and character.

The selection of Palin was the product of a panicked stupidity.

It is said that the first indicator of the judgment a President will apply in office is their choice for a VP.  What does it say about John McCain’s judgment under pressure that he would select an un-vetted, unqualified neophyte ideologue who denies the science of global warming on nothing more than her gender?

If McCain is this panicked simply by a Democrat’s acceptance speech, I shutter to think what he would do as President in a real crisis.  What an horrific mistake it would be to allow such a man to have his meaty fingers near the nuclear trigger.

This election is serious business, and Hillary Clinton was right.  “No how.  No way.  No McCain!”

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By southparker, September 2, 2008 at 9:00 am Link to this comment
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Palin seems to be a study of contrasts.  She advocated (at one time) that Alaska secede and yet as mayor of Wasilla she secured (with the help of lobbyists tied to Sen. Stevens) 27 mil for her little hamlet of 6700 in federal funds.  She wants to meddle in women’s reproductive health and yet within her family, she asks for privacy.  She “stood up to big oil” whatever that means, and yet she wants them to drill the hell out of ANWR.  She’s a typical elitist…she wants one set of values for the people, but puts herself and her family above those priniciples.  If the Hillary supporters are stupid enough to accept this charade of McCain’s as a legitimate alternative to not getting their choice of presidential candidate, then as a woman, I will have to live in shame for 4 more years.

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By Aegrus, September 2, 2008 at 7:22 am Link to this comment

Wow, hahahaha, this is too good. A gift from the Gods to the Democratic party! Absolutely ridiculous! Anti-choice, anti-America, anti-all. She’s a mountain of swill and posturing lunacy!

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By Jim Yell, September 2, 2008 at 6:10 am Link to this comment
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Reform is admirable, but would this be reform or just convenience. We have watched the Bush/Cheney crowd appoint department heads of important government programs and their main qualifications seem to be they want to destroy the departments they run and are themselves groupies for the Bush/Cheney form of government by gangsterism. Now we have a Republican vice-presidential candidate who once was (and may yet be) a sessionist.

Really I can’t finish this, she surely is just a decoy and diversion. If she isn’t than McCain is obviously dumber than Bush and just as arrogant.

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By hmpierson, September 2, 2008 at 5:22 am Link to this comment
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“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”

Joe Vogler, Founder Alaskan Independence Party

http://www.akip.org/introduction.html

“The problem with you John Birchers’ is that you are too damn liberal!”
~ Joseph Vogler, Founder Alaskan Independence Party

http://www.akip.org/platform.html

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By MsSwin, September 2, 2008 at 1:25 am Link to this comment
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It’s becoming more and more obvious that Palin was not properly vetted.

Sarah Palin, to this day supports and spoke words of encouragement to the AIP political party at their 2008 Convention, a secessionist organization whose platform still includes secession by Alaska and whose founding member, Joe Vogler, refused to be considered an American citizen: “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”

McCain has met with this woman personally for maybe an hour total and is just now sending campaign officials to Alaska to do a proper background check.  His campaign even tried to say the FBI had vetted her in their effort to cover up this fiasco and I seriously doubt they realized she was a director for one of Steven’s 527 groups.

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By Tony Wicher, September 2, 2008 at 1:18 am Link to this comment

It really looks like the wheels are coming off the “Straight Talk Express”.  Whether McCain drops Palin or not, his claim to be a person of mature judgment is blasted to smithereens!

Looks like a 60-40 Obama landslide to me!

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By Gypsy Man, September 2, 2008 at 12:30 am Link to this comment
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This ethics investigation is total garbage. It’s led by a partisan democrat lawyer, and Palin did nothing wrong in dumping an ineffectual police commissioner.

Not WRIGHT for America (http://www.notwrightforamerica.com) does a good job destroying this alleged “ethics investigation” and demonstrating what it really is—a partisan witch hunt.

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By wildflower, September 1, 2008 at 11:20 pm Link to this comment

Oh dear, and McCain said she was his soulmate.

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By heavyrunner, September 1, 2008 at 10:36 pm Link to this comment

If the Republicans can ever find the courage to have their convention maybe they will dump McCain after the VP fiasco.

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By Alejandro, September 1, 2008 at 10:14 pm Link to this comment
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Something smells about this selection of Gov. Palin. Could she be a decoy to take the heat off of McSham? If all the media attention is on her, McSham can slide by with minimum media scrutiny. Looks like a Rovien plan to me. If I were a betting man I think I’d bet she resign’s within two weeks.

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By Sean01, September 1, 2008 at 10:05 pm Link to this comment

...you vett your VP choice by phone.

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By Fahrenheit 451, September 1, 2008 at 9:59 pm Link to this comment

So what!  This is just more crap to distract us; Palin will probably not make it so get on with the important stuff.

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By Paracelsus, September 1, 2008 at 7:26 pm Link to this comment

Secession might now be a bad idea. Georgia’s attempt at secession was not so successful of course, but perhaps Georgians could give it a second try. This time it would be for a far nobler cause- a peaceful, non-imperialist government in Atlanta instead of that nasty one in DC.

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