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‘We Cannot Turn Back’

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Posted on Aug 28, 2008
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In what was perhaps the most highly anticipated (and no doubt the most highly scrutinized) moment of his political career thus far, newly nominated Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was saddled with a huge task Thursday night, but by the end, Obama had both thrown down the gauntlet and risen to the occasion—at least in the eyes of thousands of supporters who came to see his history-making acceptance speech at Denver’s Invesco Field.

In one fell swoop, Obama attacked President George W. Bush’s “failed policies,” linked Bush’s would-be GOP successor, John McCain, to a vanishing and played-out past and invited the audience—and, by extension, the millions more Americans watching his speech on television—to consider themselves the active agents in a change he has rallied behind but didn’t create by himself. “This election has never been about me. It’s been about you,” Obama said in a statement no doubt designed to mobilize his allies as well as to hit back at opponents’ accusations that his following has built him into a “celebrity” with his cooperation and encouragement.

The Illinois senator also made a not-so-subtle dig at McCain’s rumored “temperament” issues, laid out some specifics about tax breaks he would and wouldn’t make as president, articulated his energy and foreign policy positions, and slammed the Republican Party for promoting an idealized notion of “the ownership society,” which he translated to mean “you’re on your own.” Perhaps the most memorable line from Obama’s speech was also the shortest—“Enough!”—delivered with the right level of convincing force and without the slight self-consciousness and hesitation that tripped him up in some other moments during his address.

Finally, drawing on the familiar themes of change and hope that have become emblematic of his campaign rhetoric, and drawing direct links from the evening’s occasion to Martin Luther King Jr.‘s own speech at the Lincoln Memorial 45 years ago, Obama urged his audience to look forward (once again connecting McCain to a bygone era), infusing the uncertain and few remaining weeks before Nov. 4 with a sense of inevitability and purpose and insisting, “We cannot turn back.”

Watch the speech here.

The New York Times:

The speech by Senator Obama of Illinois—in front of an audience of nearly 80,000 people on a warm night in a football stadium refashioned into a vast political stage for television viewers—left little doubt of how he intended to press his campaign against Mr. McCain this fall. And he linked Mr. McCain to what he described as the “failed presidency of George W. Bush” in cutting language that seemed intended to reassure nervous Democrats that he had the spine to take on what has proven this summer to be a scrappy Republican opponent.

“The record’s clear: John McCain has voted with George Bush 90 percent of the time,” Mr. Obama said. “Senator McCain likes to talk about judgment, but really, what does it say about your judgment when you think George Bush was right more than 90 percent of the time? I don’t know about you, but I’m not ready to take a 10 percent chance on change.”

“America, we are better than these last eight years,” he said. “We are a better country than this.”

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By Chris Horton, August 29, 2008 at 12:05 pm Link to this comment

... is to wake up Nov. 5 to a McCain win? 

Think about that, and let yourself really feel it!

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By Folktruther, August 29, 2008 at 11:56 am Link to this comment

It is quite true, Chis, that, in stirring rhetoric, Obama was for peace, justice and the American way.  In practice he was for the financial ruling class, spying on the American people, and a Zionist and militarist foreign policy.  He is supporting the Dem neocons the same way that McCain is supporting the Gop neocons.

But my experinece with Dems that host Dem parties is that they don’t really care about policies, they are involved in the nuts and bolts of the electoral battle: policies being one of the bolts and a Dem voter being one of the nuts. 

Dem activists are concerned about winning offices and political spoils, not about the polices once they get there.  And once a pol settles his ass on the seat of power, he must raise money every day to keep it there.  Want to guess where he looks for it, Chris?

Voting for Obama without illusions is a possible policy.  But getting involved in the political theater of elections that fosters political delusions is contrary what the people really need.  To mobilize against the neocons of BOTH parties.

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By wish i knew, August 29, 2008 at 11:31 am Link to this comment

woops, that should be Dr KIA. Gotta get my acronyms straight. Sorry doc… wink

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By wish i knew, August 29, 2008 at 11:28 am Link to this comment

So many great comments today. Dr. KIT, love your positive outlook!

Honestly, we can find something negative in ANYTHING if we look hard enough. In reading these boards and others, there is obviously a huge fear that people in favor of Obama have merely been manipulated by rhetoric.

Sure some have - but the fact remains that FAR more consistent rhetoric has been out there on the GOP side. Face it, they have been far better at crystalizing their messages and droning them like foghorns for years now.

But just because there is a population that chooses to be hopeful, doesn’t make all of us ignorant to facts. The world is not black & white. There is always a need for compromise. And there is a huge difference between being manipulated, and making an educated choice to rise above the negative and prove that we are not powerless to change things in some way.

This is what the Obama campaign has done for me. It has made me clean the cynicism off and try to look at things through a new lens. And if each of us does just one thing out of hope rather than fear and hopelessness, we might make a difference. Like Stinkypants there who wants to create jobs here - my husband and I had the SAME conversation about our small business. 

Personally, I choose to be excited about the question mark of our future and be one tiny part of shaping it.  We have nothing to fear but fear itself. So true.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 29, 2008 at 11:03 am Link to this comment

re: Folktruther
Sorry that your constitution can not abide a quote from Martin Luther King Jr’s “I’ve been to the mountaintop” speech. Peace

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By thebeerdoctor, August 29, 2008 at 10:56 am Link to this comment

re: Chris Horton
Chris Horton has made an important point here. History has proved time and again that some of the most unlikely people become instruments of historical change. The most recent dust up about McCain’s VP choice is a perfect example. Knowledgeable Democrats claim that this is a desperation move. Of course it is, anyone who truly has a possibility of winning is desperate. Only those who know they will lose from the start can afford the luxury of not being desperate. The Obama campaign’s attempt to dismiss John McCain’s choice, is a desperate attempt to deny that they are worried. The unknown is always a concern. Why didn’t any of the well paid political experts see that Governor Palin was going to be the VP choice?

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By felicity, August 29, 2008 at 10:54 am Link to this comment

There are a few people on this site who, whenever they smell flowers immediately look for the coffin.

Al Gore’s ‘excuse’ for not running for president, “What politics has become requires a level of triviality and artiface and nonsense that I find I have in short supply,” is a truism about American politics that, Mr. Gore take note, has existed as long as America has. 

Short of changing basic human nature, our political blow-outs aren’t going to change.  But that doesn’t mean that the January inauguration that follows can’t usher in a period of good governance.

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By Chris Horton, August 29, 2008 at 10:39 am Link to this comment

Last night I hosted 15 supporters to listen to Obama together and plan our participation in his campaign. They and I were roused and moved by Obama’s vision and rhetoric, fuzzy though it was. I also re-played Kucinich’s 6-minute speech, which had them cheering! The loudest laugh of the evening was when I told them of the one phrase Dennis had been told to remove from his speech: “... they’re asking for four more years. We should give them 10 to 20!”

In his speech, Kucinich, called on us to join this battle. It’s not the ground we would have chosen for it, but it’s the battle that needs to be fought. A victory won’t be decisive, but a defeat would be!  Dennis has led in the struggle to prepare the ground, with his presidential runs, the impeachment fights, the opposition to the war funding, and by clearly and passionately articulating a program for the working people. But that phase is over. Now we must fight the battle that’s in front of us, with the commander that history has thrown up for us, Barack Obama.

Leaders are often far from what we would wish, but revolutions are made by the people, and often leaders set in motion events that couldn’t have been predicted from their resumes. Granted, Obama’s deeds don’t match his words, and he’s made his bargains with some pretty unsavory characters from the credit card industry, from Wall Street, from Big Coal and AIPAC. Washington was a slaveowner, but the people who rallied behind him and re-defined our world were marching to the words of Tom Paine! Lincoln was a railroad lawyer who picked a slave-owner to be his vice president, but the people who waged and won the struggle he led fought to end slavery!

Roosevelt was a capitalist from the family that brought us the Big Stick policy, but the people who rallied to his call transformed the place of labor in America and brought down world fascism! Patton was practically a NaZi himself, but thousands of progressives followed him into battle to smash the Siegfried Line! Lyndon Johnson, a rather unsavory Cold Warrior, a representative of Big Oil and the old Jim Crow South, was swept into office by an alliance of labor, African-Americans and those who feared (with good reason) that Goldwater meant to start a nuclear war; and it was Johnson who signed the Voting Rights Act!

Now Obama, in stirring rhetoric, has laid out a clearly-defined direction, for economic recovery, peace, justice and fair play. If we rally to him and sweep the Repugnicans out, we emerge feeling our strength, more organized, with hope and expectations - and a new struggle on our hands to hold him to his words and enact a peoples’ agenda.  Should we fail, those who stand for war, plunder, repression and denigration would have prevailed, and the Masters of the Empire would have been given a free hand. The struggle would go on, but in fear and despair and under much more unfavorable conditions.

Make no mistake, lives are on the line now, and not just figuratively! I love Ralph Nader, but a McCain victory will not pave the way for a win by a third party next time, if there even is a next time!

Each of us gets to choose now whether we will be an arm-chair cynic, an idealist demanding that things be as we wish them to be, or a warrior for the people, fighting the battle that history has thrown up before us. This isn’t the battlefield we might have chosen, but Kucinich, who has earned his leadership and our trust over and over again, has challenged us to take it on, to throw ourselves and our hearts into it and win!

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By dihey, August 29, 2008 at 10:30 am Link to this comment

If there is a difference between Caesar raising his hand in the Coliseum and Obama speaking in an American Coliseum I would be grateful to be told. This was not the selection of a candidate for our Presidency, this was the selection of another Emperor of America (with excuses to George Bernard Shaw for my plagiarism). The Russian yokels used to do this by raising their hands in the Red Square to anoint their new Tsar. In Denver it was done by raising a sign “Unity” which was given to you in the first place.
The so-called convention was a party thrown by the CEO’s of the Democratic Machine for the “workers” of their company. There was not a single discussion on any issue. This is “democracy?” Today it no longer matters what the party stands for, only what Caesar stands for. And Caesar has no clothes.

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By Folktruther, August 29, 2008 at 10:02 am Link to this comment

Yellowbird, Farinheit, I like what you say but I hate the way you say it.  There is a wonderful new invention in narratives.  They are called PARAGRAPHS.

Do me a favor, make it easier for me and everyone else to read what you write.  Write a few sentences and then skip a line.  After a bit those senteinces will express a thought that leads to the next.  Given your basic knowledge of the ppower process, it may make you famous, at least with people like me.  All four of us.

Beerdoctor, could I ask you not to quote aphorisms like “only when its dark enough can you see the stars.”  I have a weak stomach and when I throw up on the keyboard it clogs the keys.  Power structures led by the American power structure are currently on a trajectory to destroy humanity with global warming, thermonuclear war and the consequenses of class inequality, both within and between nations.

Obama is going to continue Bush’s foreign policy.  Dr. Knowit, Don’t say that you agree with me when you obviously disagree. The major policies affecting the American people are now global; world pollution, nuclear war, globablization.  Either you help mobilize the population to oppose Gop-Dem policy or you support it, if only be default.  Obama-Biden are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem.

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By felicity, August 29, 2008 at 9:51 am Link to this comment

America is a liberal idea.  All other rights enumerated in the Consitution are secondary to the inalienable human rights - life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

IF Obama adheres to what America is truly all about, realizes that we Americans have become exiles in a strange land, in an America that is no longer America, and he believes in economic, social and political justice - IF - then, given his managerial expertise (evidenced in his superbly run campaign) with him at the helm we just may make it out of this ‘strange land’ in one piece.

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By yellowbird2525, August 29, 2008 at 9:07 am Link to this comment

Ronald Reagan pointed out the plan in his Pres; cut down all the trees; ya seen one, you have seen them all! (BTW, in Ore: claiming trees now must be cut down, commercialisation done; build houses (gosh, just what REAGAN said); Corps should not have to pay taxes! YEP, we are now paying Corps taxes; the Congress illegally imposed taxes on the PEOPLE; all were to have been paid for by big business profits; instead, now THEIR pocketbooks is 1st; ABOVE social needs; THAT is why we are #1 in death rates in babies; push those toxins into formulas, & formaldehyde into every possible thing to make folks ill; so the Pharma’s can pay the Drs to meet quotas of prescriptions & mega $ for those pills of the month! Bribe school officials to STOP recesses for little ones; throw all those nasty chemicals into their food; then say ADD AHD & prescribe METH; now it’s gotta give those cholesterol pills to babies starting 1 years old! and despite the economy the rich are getting richer! Can’t go back! WE own the water! can’t grow veggies; can’t raise animals! to much methane! gotta buy from US genetic seed coming at ya from the big chemical who supplies Agent Orange & toxins supposedly banned; but hay hay hay you got a “supposed” FDA; who lets supposedly banned toxins into YOUR deoderants, & every thing coming at ya; & if you DO have health coverage well it STOPS when you get ill; cuz it might affect their profit; Fed Law says state senator; bought & paid for long ago; NOW you know YOU have nothing; and the veggies being radiated just like your genetically prepared meat garenteed to harm,hurt, kill you; but ill folks are easier to handle; they learned well from the Nazi’s they brought over to study didn’t they; and as for the media well, this is the way it was done in Hitlers day as well! Illegal all of it: but, we are NOT going back! Onward with those SS#‘s; onward claiming American’s are the scourge of the earth & terrorists and have to be put down! Onward with the lies, deception, and killing off each generation! onward to them owing the land, & the water; must get a new MINDSET for the folks; POLITICALS are GODS! and you st, city, county & country are all run by THEM; and while y’all were being distracted by the National Convention: it is already underway; in country after country cuz they’ve gotten away with it in the USA for years now they say! People will beleive anything! Even that Saddam Hussain was behind the twin towers! When in reality the Pentagon was busying training retired military with connections to the contractors they launder $ thru: on how to speak on public TV: BEFORE the twin towers ever hit; and buildings hit by planes before NEVER have gone down like they did; but never mind: you MUST put DOWN protestors! says Germany hailed as the “great leader”; and new book & movie saying Americans were as atrocious as the Nazi’s; and Hitler was a good ol boy, who did no wrong; Winston Chruchhill wanted glory; brought to you on PBS by your politicians!

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By stinkypants oh boy!, August 29, 2008 at 9:07 am Link to this comment
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It’s funny to hear how people dismiss the possibility of change. “oh obama’s not going to change nothing. he’s just a bunch of talk”. Nothing will never change if you tell yourself it can’t be done. After last night I realized something very important. For a long time now we have accepted what was told to us by media and our politicians. We have sucked it up for so long that we do not care anymore what the truth is. nor do we hold our elected officials accountable for what’s real. instead we chase after governor’s for sleeping with hookers. instead of asking why during a serious election season does Georgia decide to send troops into South Ossetia knowing that Russia will respond with serious force. then our president and mccain paint Russia as the bad guy. remember when john adams asked france to free this country from the grips of england.

then theres oil. why do we as a society allow the oil companies or any institution for that matter to give money to our elected officials to sway their opinions on legistlation that is suppose to protect and benefit the people.

that speech and event change a lot for me. I love this country more than ever and as a new business owner in tuff time I feel a duty to strive in the effort to provide work for us here. I could have looked over seas but, we need jobs here. people deserve a chance to make in this country.

that stadium was full of americans last night. in that one moment many of us were together as one people even thoe we are all very different. I haven’t seen that since 911. in this country we need a lot more of that.

mccain just nominated a woman for his running mate that has not been without controversy. A legislative investigation is looking into allegations that Palin fired Alaska’s public safety commissioner because he refused to fire the governor’s former brother-in-law, a state trooper.

Palin acknowledged that a member of her staff made a call to a trooper in which the staffer suggested he was speaking for the governor.

Palin has admitted that the call could be interpreted as pressure to fire state trooper Mike Wooten, who was locked in a child-custody battle with Palin’s sister.

we need people with integrity that will work for the people and not the oil companies.

So you have a choice. you can get on the bus or you settle for the situation the country is in right now. and with the republicans running things, I dont’ see things getting any better for the people of this country.

I am an independent that wants to care about the choices being made for us. the question is what are you.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, August 29, 2008 at 8:38 am Link to this comment

reply to Fahrenheit451:

I can’t disagree with you.  I’ve come around during this campaign to recognizing that it might be best to try to work within the system.  Also (are you sitting down?) I am developing a new respect for politicians, especially the good ones, good meaning the ones who agree with me. 

Ralph Nader, if he has done nothing else for me, has demonstrated that it’s getting harder and harder to not work within the system.  He’s got to be one hugely frustrated guy.  If he were a little younger, it might be good for him, if he’s to advance his agenda, to try to work more within the current system and work toward smaller gains.

I think this is very important:  smaller gains over a long, long haul until change is evident.  I doubt this country will ever have another full-blown revolution, rather one that is on-going and hardly recognizable as being such. 

I think this election illustrates that: an AA nominee and a very viable woman candidate and now, as I respond, a female candidate for Rep. veep.
All of these have been made possible by everything that has come before and by pressure from voters and groups, by people making it known how they want the country to look.  And I think, far more to come.  We have to keep up the clamor.  The status quo won’t go quietly or quickly.  But this year and the months to come, I think have the potential to show significant change—for the good.

I have to trust Obama will walk the talk.  There isn’t much else—right now.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 29, 2008 at 8:27 am Link to this comment

re: Big B, Dr. Know-it-all, everyone
When it comes to his favorite sled Big B, I heard that Barack has a favorite surf board—just kidding.
No folks, whether he is considered to be an establishment tool, an enabler for the status quo, one thing can not be denied: this is a sea change in American politics.
Please understand that political theater is vastly important, no natter how many dismiss it for its superficiality. Many months ago I authored a blog about Obama titled “Dragging The Ship Over The Mountain”, where I compared Obama’s quest for the nomination, with the Werner Herog movie Fitzcarraldo, where an opera obsessed Brian Sweeney Fitzgerald, drags a boat over a mountain (literally) in order to set up a new route to move rubber from the jungle. The riches derived from this, would give him the wealth to build his opera house, in a little town in the jungle.
With the aide of the local tribes, he accomplishes his task. Dragging the multi-ton ship from one river to another, by going over the mountain. When this is accomplished, a big party ensues.
The next day, when everybody is trying to recover from the party, they quickly discover that their ship has been cut loose, floating down through the rapids that they hoped to avoid. It turns out the locals had their own motives for dragging the ship over the mountain. It was to be an offering to appease an angry river god.
This is where Senator Obama stands today. He has dragged the ship over the mountain. It will probably take Providence and actual love, to keep this ship from being sent down the rapids.
“Decrepit cynicism” is the way I describe the campaign vision of John McCain. Whether anyone votes for anyone, is their own business. I only say: do not be paralyzed by being conscious of injustice. As long as there is breath there is possibility. “Only when it is dark enough, can you see the stars.” Peace.

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By Leefeller, August 29, 2008 at 7:33 am Link to this comment

Big B,

My cynic approach is on hold for right now.

I will try to bring it up a notch, instead of saying “the best we can say about Barry is he is better then McCain”.  I say, if Obama does only one thing he promised last evening, he will be a vast improvement over the last eight years and McCain for the next 4.

Obama’s points make sense for the people, his attack on lobbies and corporate influence were on the money.  Sadly his sincerity may be in question, I would be willing to find out.  Obama may not be able to do anything about lobbies and power brokers, for we saw the ABC reporter arrested for photographing in front of the Hotel during the power brokers meeting in Denver,

They may do what they want, but how long will the people take it?  When the people get restless as during the depression of the 1930’s, subtle even more than subtle changes happened, are we getting close?

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, August 29 at 5:58 am #

You could do worse (speech writing).  I enjoy your POV.  But all in all, I just don’t believe it (the Obama glee); see my previous post.  To underestimate the present administration and the depth of its corruption is far more dangerous.  This is no longer a matter of object (disagree) and deceive; it is fundamentally a matter of our freedoms.  The best example is the behavior of the police regarding any form of legal dissent at the democratic convention….  VERBOTTEN!!!!
Yes, I hope Obama is the “One”, but the expectation is too much, given the utter destruction wrought by this administration.  And, they have 3 months to suss out the direction of the body politic and adjust their strategy.  McCain is their boy (not man) and they will do everything possible to get him in.  Failing that, they (the neo-con scum) will do everything to stop Obama…or…ensure he has a totally dysfunctional government coming into office.  These guys are beyond anything inside our present reality:  You must go to the farthest reaches of your imagination to fully understand their view of reality.  It is nothing that any normal human would recognize and there-in lies the problem.

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By JimM, August 29, 2008 at 7:06 am Link to this comment

Actually, many far right wing-nuts believe Barack to be the anti-Christ, so no amount of decrepitude on McSame’s part(e.g., McDrill) will change their tiny minds.
Barack needs to continue to hit hard in order to counter the highly effective fear and smear strategy of the far right. They are a formidable block not to be underestimated. If not pushed back into their sewer holes, he will have a repeat of the past two elections.
It is telling that flea bag Corsi’s Obamanation rag is a bestseller.

Jim M

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, August 29, 2008 at 6:58 am Link to this comment

Folktruther, I agree.  But TheSystem is and has been in place for a long time.  We can either bitch about it, do nothing, and die leaving it completely unchanged or worse, or we can take our best shot at effecting at least some modicum of change in the hopes that another modicum will come along at a later time.

We middle class people are given very little to work with.  Short of a full-blown revolt, things probably won’t change.  We’ve been given this.  Why not take it and do the best we can with it, while keeping vital the dialogue for long-term significant change.  Obama, I think, believes that.  He went to the rescue of destitute steel workers in South Chicago.  One person, one thing.  That’s it.  One person, one thing.  That’s how and where it starts.
I should be that one person.  We all should be that one person.

“The world is far more impressed with the power of our example than the example of our power.”-Bill Clinton, ‘08 Dem. Convention

(I think I’ll become a speech writer.((forgive my attempt at humor)))

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, August 29, 2008 at 6:40 am Link to this comment

Take a moment, please to take the Dr. Knowitall Obama Naysayer Test of Political Savvy, or DKONTPS.

    You have just won the Democratic nomination for POTUS.  You are writing your acceptance speech which you will deliver before 80,000 live and millions on prime time TV.  Your objective, of course, is to win the WH as well as, perhaps, make the congress filibuster-proof.
    List just five (5) points you would make to voters to ensure your Nov. election.  Possible 100 pts., 20/each plausible answer.  Please keep in mind how your points will be received by voters and MSM.

I recuse myself from correcting your tests; TDers can do that.

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By Folktruther, August 29, 2008 at 6:36 am Link to this comment

The traditional way that the US ruling class has deceived the American people is get us involved in fighting each other instead of them. An essential part of this fight is to devide the population into Dems and Gops, buy the leaders of both parties, support them in the media, ande give them electoral consultants and specialists to compete for the offices and other politcal spoils.

The media then treats the elections as a kind of horse race or sports contest to divert the population from real change.

Both parties have the same policies with marginal differences,  but the ideological bullshit differs with each one, the Gop leaders deceiving the Gop rank and file, and the Dem leaders deceiving the Dem rank and file.  The media owned by members of the ruling class support the more conservative of the too parties so that when the pseudo-progressives win, this is a great victory for the people.

With The Coup in 2000, and the false flag 9/11-anthrax homicides, both parties have their leaderships taken over by neocons.  Neocon policy is based on

1. exploitive inequality

2. Religious Zionism

3. miitarized brutality

4. ideological bullshit

Mr. Obama is very talented in slinging the ideology, and is safe from any deviation by being surrounded by the Dem old farts who have been complicit enablers of the Gop neocons.  He has reaffirned his committment to American militarism, and is going to fix the economic and political system without saying how.  People institutions- unions, rank and file organizations, enviromental orgaizations, progressive monvements of any kind- were excluded from the authorized image.

Meanwhile outside, police is full riot gear were attacking demonstrators invisibly to maintain the disguised police state that Obama is going to continue.  What is typically most important in ideological bullshit is what is NOT said, and Obama did not even allude to the brutality of the American power system, or the police state being installed.

The simple truth of the matter is that the US has entered into a state of technological barbarism, and the power system cannot change its historical trajectory.  There is no turning back.

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By Big B, August 29, 2008 at 5:19 am Link to this comment

I tend to agree with all you gentlemen. He does give a good speech. He is an obviously better choice than McCain. And the convention, particularly last night, had a certain “Citizen Kane” quality to it.(I wonder what Barry named his sled?)
I still get this uneasy feeling when reading the entries on this and other sites. That feeling is that the best many of us can say about Barry is “well, at least he’s better than McCain.”
I also get this forbodeing feeling that was best described by Hunter Thompson after the 2000 election when he asked the cryptic question “where were you when the fun stopped?”
As I watched Al Gore last night, I could only think of one thing, if he were the nominee(a white man) how big a lead would he have over the impotent Mccain
(but then again, if Gore would have gone balls to the wall campaigning in 2000, we might not be in this mess now!)
As Artie Johnson used to say on Laugh In, the next two months could be “very interesting, but stupid”

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, August 29, 2008 at 4:24 am Link to this comment

thebeerdoctor, right on!  The whole thing was a stroke of genius.  80,000 people, mostly outsiders,embraced—in a red state. 

If Obama is who we get, then let’s embrace him, get him elected and hold his feet to the fire.  We haven’t done this well for a long time and if this is the modecum of hope we need, then carpe!

Personally, I think he’ll walk the walk, even if it has to be within the context of the den of thieves in DC.  Take what we can get.

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By Fahrenheit 451, August 29, 2008 at 2:06 am Link to this comment

Despite the soaring rhetoric (what else did you expect?) from Obama; do not believe things will change in other than superficial ways.  The next administration has been crippled before it even takes office.  By intention, the present administration has ensured that the Oligarchy will thrive, torture will continue, war will not end and social programs will stall.  All of the largest corporation’s no longer need the U.S. government (except the military from time to time) to survive; it would appear globalization is almost complete.  With only a few exceptions, governments are run by corporations.  While watching the convention from far, far away, I was struck by the “movieness” of the moment and I found myself wondering, “Who are those people?”  Very surreal.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 29, 2008 at 12:45 am Link to this comment

Despite differences on policy I have with the candidate, this was a brilliant speech. I have read that Senator Obama wrote this speech himself, and after comparing it with the writing in one of his books, I conclude this is true.
How anyone could embrace the decrepit cynicism of John McCain seems incomprehensible.

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