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Democrats Unite Behind a Historic Nominee

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Posted on Aug 27, 2008
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It’s time to drop the presumptive. Barack Obama is America’s first African-American presidential nominee from a major political party. Hillary Clinton called for Democrats to “declare together in one voice, right here, right now, that Barack Obama is our candidate and he will be our president.” They agreed, and so did he, but it’s not officially official until Obama’s acceptance speech Thursday.


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Illinois passed when its turn in the order came up so it could yield to New York. The hall erupted in cheers as Clinton approached the microphone. 

“With eyes firmly fixed on our future and in the spirit of unity ... let’s declare together in one voice, right here, right now, that Barack Obama is our candidate and he will be our president,” Clinton said, setting off a loud celebration Obama’s nomination became official.

Chants of “Obama, Obama” rang out when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., the convention’s chairwoman, reported that Obama had accepted the nomination.

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By Tony Wicher, August 29, 2008 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment

By Rus7355, August 29 at 3:04 am #

Tony Wicher,

How did you conclude that I am looking for a Centrist?
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Actually I didn’t conclude this. I said “if”. You actually sound more like a Bush supporter. Are you?

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By thebeerdoctor, August 29, 2008 at 8:48 am Link to this comment

re: Rus7355
Sounds like this dual-identity needs to reach a conclusion. Why haven’t they responded?

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By Big B, August 29, 2008 at 4:48 am Link to this comment

Rus

I do remember the films of a congressman from Philadelphia(I think his name was Flood) as he literally stuffed the FBI’s money into his pockets and said something akin to “this is how to get things done in Washington!”
I was just a young political junky then, but like any good train wreck, I just couldn’t avert my eyes from that spectacle.
As it worked out nearly every government official involved in Abscam claimed entrapment and eventually got offthe hook.
It seems a similar end happened with the Keating thing, where all involved were mearly slapped on the wrist by ethics committees.
And what have we learned from these two incidences? That we cannot let polititians investigate and punish themselves. The penalty for graft should not be a mere pink welt on the wrist of the guilty.
I’m going to look up Abscam again, I think that congressman had a cheesy mustache?

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By thebeerdoctor, August 29, 2008 at 1:11 am Link to this comment

Fact: Senator Barack Hussein Obama is the democratic nominee for President of The United States. This no longer symbolism, this is a fact. Those who would choose to support John McCain, are embracing a decrepit cynicism that is conveniently ignored by the words “genuine war hero”.
People who post support for McCain’s candidacy on this site are advocating for someone who does not know how to use a computer. It is like saying, I like this candidate because he is old, stubborn, and misinformed.
We who are on the back end of life’s roller coaster should remember, that after we’ve gone and all the mess that is left, younger generations will have to pick up the pieces.
Probably the greatest endorsement for Barack Obama is that he is not a part of the baby boom generation. He was just a child when all that awful stuff happened, that my generation so vividly remembers. It is time to stop trying to applying him to the crucible of the 1960’s. He is of another time, so of course he does not see things the way we see them. A torch is being passed. Its another generation’s turn.

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By Tony Wicher, August 28, 2008 at 9:56 pm Link to this comment

By the way, Rus, there are Republicans I respect. My favorite Republican is Bob Lugar. If you are looking for a centrist, there’s a real one. He’s a wonderfully accomplished senator. If Obama appoints a Republican to the cabinet, he should be the one.

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By Tony Wicher, August 28, 2008 at 9:51 pm Link to this comment

By Rus7355, August 28 at 4:52 pm #

The fact is Sen. McCain has for decades been just right of center in both his speech and voting record. That history, and all of the above, is clear for anyone to research.
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As a progressive, in my view, to be “just right of center” for decades is to have been on the wrong side for decades. A lot of progressives don’t like Obama because he is “just left of center” rather than way over on the left. Again they don’t understand how democracy works.  What really matters, in my view, is which side of that middle line you are on.  The traffic on the right side of the road is moving into the past and the traffic on the left side is moving into the future. If you are on the right side, even a little bit, you are a reactionary; if you are on the left side, even a little bit, you are a progressive. Even if McCain and Obama are both near the center of the road, Obama will take the country in the right direction and McCain will take us in the wrong one. Obama represents the future, McCain represents the past.

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By Big B, August 28, 2008 at 7:37 pm Link to this comment

The McCain that everyone should worry about is the one caved in so readily to bush and his dirty tricks squad during the primary season of 2000. If he was unwilling to fight the wrongs committed against him then, why should I believe he will fight for us as president? Again, another charactor flaw.

Rus,

Funny you should mention Murtha, he’s my hometown representative! And he’s a scumbag, too! I remember Abscam! But nobody in our district seems to. Oh well, the folks around here will vote for any generic dimmocrat. Hell we even re-elected Austin Murphey after he was found to be harboring a second family in the DC area.
It just goes to show that it doesn’t matter what side of the isle they hail from, our reps and senators just can’t seem to keep their hands off the money, and their dicks out of other women.

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By wish i knew, August 28, 2008 at 6:45 pm Link to this comment

Rus, My main point is one you agree with - that the McCain running now is not the same one that existed in 2005.

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By Virginia777, August 28, 2008 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment

I have read much of the liberal commentary and the very valid fears of Obama’s running mate and both of their murky statements about the war/future wars. These are not to be taken lightly, and Biden had better not be another Cheney!

That said, last night was history. Obama is America’s first African-American presidential nominee from a major political party. Millions of people are really happy today and they have a right to be!! 300 years of slavery, 100 more of Jim Crow “laws” enforcing segregation. Civil Rights happens, and people are all-too-happy to say “its all over now”, not acknowledging that Martin Luther King was just the very beginning of change to centuries-old institutions, and more importantly, centuries-old entrenched prejudices.

Obama’s victory represents a groundbreaking change to attitudes in this country about Race, and that is a Victory for our country.

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By wish i knew, August 28, 2008 at 4:16 pm Link to this comment

Rus7355:
I am afraid for the sake of comparison you are using the John McCain of 2005. That’s not the McCain currently running against Obama. And I don’t blame you, the old “maverick” McCain was a man I once respected. But I haven’t seen that guy for awhile now. How can you say he isn’t like Bush when he has voted with him 95% of the time? You picked one of the 5% of his votes that were in opposition, and that was 3 years ago when he actually took opposing stances on a few issues.

It’s too bad, I think the maverick would have made a far better GOP candidate.

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By Beltor, August 28, 2008 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment
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Things are not going to get better, only worse.

According to the bible (at least hear me out..)

The next major event is Russia attacking Israel. The Russian army is destroyed and we begin to usher in the one world government.

Think of the state of affairs America will be in where Russia can attack Israel. It’s the same bad state that will allow the U.N. to take over…

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By Big B, August 28, 2008 at 2:54 pm Link to this comment

Oh, and Russ,

I don.t know where you were brought up either, But where I come from, dropping bombs on people, cheating on your wife, and stealing from old people are considered charactor flaws.

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By Big B, August 28, 2008 at 2:48 pm Link to this comment

Rowman

Thanks for the critique!
But if you have read any of my past contributions you would see that I am no fan of Barry’s either.
But if we are placed in a dark room and tied to a chair with a single lightbulb dangling from the ceiling, Who shall we vote for? The guy who has ripped off old people,(McCain and the Keating five) or a guy who could potentially rip off old people(the lawyer, Barry)?
But I would ask all the loyal repugs out there in TV land just this one question, It’s been nearly 28 years of deregulated repug rule(and yes, I count Clinton as a repug)How are things going?
Normally I would say it would be impossible for the US to elect a black man as Prez, But things are so shitty now, that it has become a distinct possibility.
Once again the major parties have given us a choice between shooting ourselves in the left foot or the right.

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By wish i knew, August 28, 2008 at 11:22 am Link to this comment

This election isn’t about who is going to get us out of this mess. It is about who is more apt to inspire us to actually sieze the opportunity to get ourselves out. That person is Obama, clearly.
I have no delusions of him waving some magic wand, or being some sort of saintly choir boy, but simply his presence in DC alone strikes a blow to the neocon greed and corruption that has plagued this country and backed 85% of it into a desperate corner of helplessness - not to mention the critical eyebrow it has raised from the rest of the world. 
I don’t know about any of you, but as a small business owner barely affording health insurance, barely affording rent, barely keeping up with payments on business loans I never thought I’d need, under this administration I feel like there is no end in sight - and I am actually one of the lucky ones. 
I remember clearly having a conversation with my republican boss in the mid 90s when she asked me why I liked Clinton so much, what had he done that was so great. My answer was simple: because he makes average Americans feel like they matter and they have a chance to be successful, and that makes a big difference. It gives them a reason to get out of bed in the morning and contribute something to society. I think Obama has the same kind of charisma. 
Sure there are always going to be the opportunists that try to get something for nothing. But I would sure rather have that person be the guy buying mini chocolate donuts with foodstamps as he drives away in his Escalade as opposed to the opportunists being encouraged under the current neocon watch that are bilking billions from pension funds, preventing us from securing energy technologies for our future, capitalizing off the tragedy of people in natural disasters, and war, and buying 6 more houses while hard-working people are losing the only one they’ve ever owned. Yes, I said hard-working people. There are far more of us than Bill O’Reilly or Rush Limbaugh would have anyone believe. 
Obama has stated in no uncertain terms that it is up to us to roll up our sleeves and clean up this mess as a nation. At least we’d have a fighting CHANCE to get back on the right track with an Obama presidency, and that’s so much more appealing to me than the alternative.
With McCain in office, we have no choices, we get what’s only good for the necon “chosen few”: more war, increased deficit (does anyone even know what comes after trillion? we’re gonna need that term), more cronyism, more corporate favoritism, more poverty, increased crime, etc. And that’s without China calling in our debt.
To those out there who still believe in the neocon way: I will only understand your position if your $5million is tucked away neatly in an offshore bank account - and you’ve already converted it to Euros. And if you are there, I would never want to take that away from you. I just hope you are a happy wealthy soul who is putting good things back into the universe. 
Thank you for letting me vent.  smile

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By Stephen Smoliar, August 28, 2008 at 10:18 am Link to this comment

CJL:  “I can remember when the Repulicans has the majority. The gas prices were not high, the taxes were not high and the people had more.”

Do you remember when their “Military Adventurism for a New American Century” bankrupted our Treasury and indebted us to the People’s Republic of China?

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By Howard Lee, August 28, 2008 at 10:03 am Link to this comment
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Obama supporters keep chanting the mantra that says
“Barack Obama is the candidate who can unite our country”
... but, Obama couldn’t even unite his own party
... even after winning the nomination.
And, in reality, McCain has the history of working across the aisle in congress.
Obama has brainwashed his followers into making decisions based on ‘belief’,
rather than reason ... this relieves his followers from having to deal with facts
... this relieves his followers from having to think all they have to do is believe Barack.
This is what Obama learned in Jeremiah Wright’s church
... you can lead people through the power of BLIND faith.
Even his campaign solgan is based on belief, not common sense, logic, or reason.
Obama’s even got his followers publicly denouncing the importance of experience
... as if to say that experience is the reason Bush performed poorly
... when the real reason Obama and his followers denounce experience,
is because Obama doesn’t have any.
Keep America Strong ... Elect Senator John McCain in November !!!

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By rowman, August 28, 2008 at 9:20 am Link to this comment

Re: Big B, August 28 at 3:44 am #

What about Obama and his dealings with Rezco? 14 Million in contracts and Helping Obama buy his mansion…
Does this not qualify as a crook too? Or are you giving him a pass on that?

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By omniadeo, August 28, 2008 at 8:21 am Link to this comment

McCain is a genuine war criminal caught dropping bombs on civilians in a small nation that never did anything to hurt the US. In spite of the fact that we lost that war, that nation is now our trading partner.

Obama is just studying to be the next war criminal president. Clearly a wannabe.

Since this nation loves war and war criminals so much, I predict McCain will win.

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By CJL, August 28, 2008 at 7:54 am Link to this comment
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What does CNN stand for
Clinton News Network.

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By CJL, August 28, 2008 at 7:50 am Link to this comment
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I agree with Obama CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE

Change the democrate in the house and senate and lets get back to the repulicans. Get rid of the Pelosi’s and Reid’s and lets get poeple in there that are there for the people not for their own agendas.

I am sick and tired of the liberals blaming Bush when it is them that are running the country with the majority in the house and senate.

I can remember when the Repulicans has the majority. The gas prices were not high, the taxes were not high and the people had more.

So yes I beleive in change but not at the TOP but in the house and senate.

McCain 08 and lets keep our country safe.

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By Stephen Smoliar, August 28, 2008 at 6:44 am Link to this comment

Tony Wicher:  I put a fair amount of time into teasing out the subtext of Hillary’s speech:

http://therehearsalstudio.blogspot.com/2008/08/haunted-by-his-own-punch-line.html

I expect to do the same with Bill’s!  By the way, I did not hear anything about Bill changing his mind about skiping out on Obama’s acceptance speech.  Did I miss it?  United, indeed!

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By Cran Berry, August 28, 2008 at 6:37 am Link to this comment

To the dissatisfaction of the piranhas of the media, the Democrats have united behind their chosen candidate. The Clintons showed that they can and will rise above their quarrels and disappointments and placed the needs of the country first. Though Hillary was not chosen as the candidate for vice-president, a role through which she might have brought in more votes for Obama, does not mean she will not have a significant role to play in the government. Perhaps she will better serve us all in another position. The spirited convention against the dim background of the crude, eighth-grade, moronic tactics of the republicans demonstrated amply which party has the leadership necessary to bringing about sorely needed changes in the government. I have been heartened by what I have witnessed this week, and Obama has yet to speak.

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By Big B, August 28, 2008 at 4:44 am Link to this comment

BobZ

I too am going to gag if I hear what a great senator and great american McCain is one more time, especially if it comes from a dimmos lips!
McCain is not worthy of anyones respect, particularly a dimmos! He is a sellout, a crook, and a cheat! As my mom used to say, if your wife can’t trust you, then why should I?
Typical dimmos, pussyfooting around when they should be kicking ass!

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By BobZ, August 27, 2008 at 10:04 pm Link to this comment

The convention has gone better than I expected and shows the organizing talent of the Obama people. I am concerned though we how much the Democrats are pulling their punches on the most inept administration in modern times. Also they should have much Dennis Kuchinich up to prime time. He has the ability to rouse a crowd. And I agree with Pat Buchanan that the Democrats need to knock off the compliments about McCain. There is no point in them constantly bringing up McCains war record. He will do that himself. You can be sure that the Republicans will not be saying what great guys Obama and Biden are.

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By yellowbird2525, August 27, 2008 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment

they show one face to the public: Hillary lauded as doing such great things for the country: read unlimited access by Aldrich I believe; the FBI agent who worked in White House; for a very CLEAR reality picture of the Clinton’s; NOT just what is shown on TV. Actually with the “affair” of John Edwards coming at such a time as this: betcha you can see from Clinton’s checking accounts where it was set up for this to happen with him: to be exposed for such a time as this; THIS is how they work folks; no one was allowed to LOOK or TALK to Hillary in White House; they were BENEATH her; and was NEVER to address HER; Bill went & got $800,000 for her campaign; George Stefanopholus said how is this going to play out as she says she is adamantly against it? (reason: repeatedly multiple times people trying to get living wages shot & murdered; we were AGAINST it til the murders stopped;( course I am sure the same Corps working here are working there the theme is global domination just like twas in Hitler’s day: and 1 1/2 weeks later political advisor claiming bipartisan agreement Colombia Trade Agreement signed in 2006; expired in 2008; Congress extended til 9/08; dennis K’s speech re Insurance companies stole your $: by FED LAW (congress) of whom he is a member folks: states insurance companies do not HAVE to pay for anything even on your health coverage IF it effects your profits; credit card company rates criminal & deceptive business practices says Fed Reserve Board: brought continually before Congress & kept going on; Congress APPROVED it folks; they are there to HARM us NOT to help us; WAKE UP AMERICANS! to the TRUTH! not to the LIE that SEEMS to be true.

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By yellowbird2525, August 27, 2008 at 8:09 pm Link to this comment

watching Biden & the National convention: what was said; how it was said; the values supposedly desplayed: reminded me of how it was in Hitler’s day:in Oregon where Hillary was wanted by Gov; the “rebuilding and renewing” of America: from Fed, to St, to County, to city: whoever wins THIS is what is going down: can’t be farming, causes to much methane; water rules etc will all have to be reviewed & renewed; prev law passed by previous Gov supposedly “expired” this year; the brand new low rental aptment complexs for illegals; get at rate of income; for new disabled on limited going in; have to pay full price; no reduction; the disabled having to take special vans can’t ride regular buses have been billed double for years now; and of course if have more than 4 bags carry on have to pay EXTRA for them; illegals told any coming would get Odl for 8 years automatically (illegally as has been given for years); while new law supposedly preventing illegals getting them demands citizens to have birth certs; for years now have had to show Soc Sec #‘s; interesting how millions of illegals got them here without that huh; vets got 13 beds to share with kids; if they didn’t end up dead “suicide” law changed conveniently to read and mentally ill (all military personnel have mental problems STARTED with Gov here in Oregon;) but hey, the Gov shows up at every deceased vet in Oregon: one is for show to the public: the OTHER is reality;

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By Tony Wicher, August 27, 2008 at 7:16 pm Link to this comment

By Stephen Smoliar, August 27 at 3:36 pm #


Now Obama can shift his focus to worrying about Bill’s speech!
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You can stop worrying. Bill made a great speech and the party is united. On to victory!

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By Lady Justice, August 27, 2008 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment
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I hope that we can now put to rest all the questions about the Clintons.  I am thrilled with today’s historical nomination but I do feel sad that Obama and Clinton are not on the ticket together.  This is what I wanted since the beginning of the primaries.  She would’ve been great as Prez or VP.  Two movements coming together would have been invincible . . .

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By Pete, August 27, 2008 at 6:00 pm Link to this comment
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Let us rejoice,let us immensely be proud of that
” Barack Obama is America’s first African-American presidential nominee from a major political party ” !

And yes,this is a victory for the young generation of
supporters and citizen,who have shown the world that
there is still something left of the American Dream.
And yes indeed,only in America,where a new generation of voters has the opportunity to uplift,to convince the rest of this nation that” Barrack Obama is the Change we can live with “...for a better America,for a brighter Future for themselves and their children.
This very proud moment,however satisfying,is just the
half-way point in a journey for the ultimate goal:

Let us go out,let us all vote and let us all succeed
by electing ” Barack Obama as America’s first African-American President ! ! !


It also goes without saying that only the Democratic Party could have been to present an African-American
candidate for president…..none other. Period.
With all this “phony patriotism ” the Republican Party have shown,is known for,such a nomination of an African-American would have never been on their mind.

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By rowman, August 27, 2008 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5640118&page=1

My Son, The Lobbyist: Biden’s Son a Well-Paid DC Insider

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By KYJurisDoctor, August 27, 2008 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment

Hillary Clinton may have NOW redeemed herself with her CLASS act of moving for nomination of Barack Obama by acclamation! OsiSpeaks.com

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By Stephen Smoliar, August 27, 2008 at 4:36 pm Link to this comment

Now Obama can shift his focus to worrying about Bill’s speech!

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