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Russia Backs Ossetia, Abkhazia Independence

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Posted on Aug 26, 2008
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South Ossetian separatist fighters celebrate Russian President Dmitry Medvedev’s signing of a decree recognizing the independence of breakaway Georgian territories South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

Russia has formally recognized the independence of the two separatist Georgian states, prompting jeers abroad and cheers in the regions in question. Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili rather theatrically compared the declaration to the conduct of Hitler and Stalin.


BBC:

Mr Saakashvili described the declaration as “the first attempt in Europe after Nazi Germany and the Stalinist Soviet Union to… change the borders of Europe by force”.

He then promised Georgians would “continue our struggle to restore peacefully our territorial integrity” and eventually “defeat the evil”.

In the South Ossetia and Abkhazia, however, Moscow’s move was warmly welcomed.

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By Ed Harges, August 27, 2008 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

re: By Rus7355, August 27 at 11:39 am:

Rus, anyone can lob empty and presumptuous rhetorical questions. Do you think these asinine provocations of yours are clever or subtle?

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By Ed Harges, August 27, 2008 at 8:17 am Link to this comment

re: By Rus7355, August 27 at 6:51 am:

And when did you stop beating your wife. Twit.

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By Ed Harges, August 27, 2008 at 7:45 am Link to this comment

re: By Rus7355, August 27 at 5:51 am:

Rus, what impels you to ask me vaporous rhetorical questions marinated in false premises?

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By diamond, August 27, 2008 at 2:21 am Link to this comment

Saakashvili is a brainless buffoon. The only similarity to Stalin and Hitler in this particular situation is the behaviour of Saaka himself and the storm troopers he sent into South Ossetia. He only has credibility on stooge TV, like Fox, CNN and the rest. You can only go on saying up’s down for so long. He seems blissfully unaware of this because he’s listening to his Israeli and American advisors who tell him what they want him to believe. That’s why he sent the army into South Ossetia in the first place. It was an act of madness but that’s not what THEY told him.

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By samosamo, August 26, 2008 at 10:43 pm Link to this comment

Is the U.S. a free country?
Try riding around in your car with an ak-47 hanging out the window.
Try getting your elected representatives to bear down on the current administration with oversight and investigation.
Try breaking up the corporate media and getting OUR, the PUBLIC’S, broadcast bands back that were stolen from us and now are used to disinform us, misinform us and gives absolutely NO differring opinion, comment, or insight much less real investigative reporting while the thieves that stole them are becoming quite rich on their booty.
Try regulating the corporations.
Try regulating the lobbyists.
Try to tell izrael or at least the aipac to shut the fuck up.
Try to get a real job with a viable wage.
Try to get health care insurance, what the hell, try holding the insurance companines to strict regulation and if they are wrong, they can go the way of the dodo.
Try to sue a corporation for wrong or neglegent actions. (Why can mattel toys get $100million for a stupid copyright against anybody?)
Try to get our infrastructure repaired.
Try to put the 4 remaining supreme court justices in prison for illegaly stoping the recount in 2000.
Try taking w and dick to court for the murder of our troops and innocent civilians in other countries.
Just try to hold anybody accountable for anything that is against the law that holds a position in government.
The list is forever too long.

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By Marion Ross, August 26, 2008 at 7:22 pm Link to this comment
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Amid the dirty swamps of the US mass media propaganda against S Ossetia (the victim of the war crimes ordered by Saakashvilli), Abkhazia and Russia, there is a sane analysis and assessment of what is at stake:

http://pacificfreepress.com/content/view/2974/1/
Nuclear Chicken    
by Mike Whitney

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By Stanley, August 26, 2008 at 6:10 pm Link to this comment
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Having received formal and official recognition from Russia, both Abkhazia and South Ossetia can now legally consider themselves free, independent and sovereign nations. They are no longer part of Georgia and they will not be able to ever again become part of Georgia, whose rulers tried to kill them.

They have now achieved recognition of their freedom and their liberty.

It is the true democratic will of the people who live there.

Democracy and freedom are values which are not just for the West.
They are for Abkhazia and for South Ossetia, too.

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By Fadel Abdallah, August 26, 2008 at 5:59 pm Link to this comment

Cheers to the Russians for recognizing the independence of the two separatist Georgian states despite the evil provocation of Mikhail Saakashvili. This is universal lesson on how to turn a crises into a win-win situation for the parties involved.

I wish the Israelis could learn a lesson from the pragmatism and humanism of the Russians and acknowledge the aspirations of the Palestinians for freedom, self-determination, human rights and peaceful existence. With this Russian gesture, there remains two countries that are against to progressive tide of human history; these are Israel and the USA.

If it was within my capacity, I would ship all the American and Israeli crooked politicians for a long internship in Russia to learn the ABC’s of politics and constructive diplomacy. But alas! Low-thinking human beings, intoxicated with the wine of arrogance and power, don’t heed the lessons provided by the wise ones!

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By Jaded Prole, August 26, 2008 at 4:07 pm Link to this comment

Not only are the Russians in the right, the utmost hypocrisy of US objections is blatantly obvious. The continued presence of US troops and US assistance will only create tensions that will backfire on us in the future. Just as the Israeli defeat by Hizbollah weakened Isreal’s power, the inability of the US to exert any real influence in this affair (ludicrous irony aside) weakens Uncle Sam’s imperialist, fear-based influence. The age of unipolar empire is over.

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By jackpine savage, August 26, 2008 at 3:12 pm Link to this comment

Stalin, Hitler…or, more accurately, to the US recognition of Kosovo as a nation.

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By Ed Harges, August 26, 2008 at 2:02 pm Link to this comment

At the time of Georgia’s surprise attack on South Ossetia, there were - by international agreement - both Georgian and Russian peacekeeping troops there.

By orders from Georgia’s president, the Georgian peacekeepers turned on their fellow Russian peacekeepers and murdered them in cold blood without warning.

As far as I’m concerned, the Russians are completely in the right, and no one can be surprised that they have dropped all neutrality and are now frankly supporting the separatists.

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