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Obama’s Choose Your Own VP Adventure

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Posted on Aug 24, 2008
Obama and Biden
AP photo / M.Spencer Green

Golf claps all around: Barack Obama and his running mate, Joe Biden, in Springfield, Ill., on Saturday.

The New York Times sheds some light on the back-room dealings, global developments and veep-vetting sessions that went into whittling down Barack Obama’s short list of vice presidential candidates to the final contender, who heard Obama’s final pitch while at the dentist’s office.


The New York Times:

Mr. Biden was hardly considered a likely pick at the start of the process. His reputation for verbosity was Washington legend. While he impressed at the debates by defying expectations with his brevity, his presidential campaign foundered and ended quickly.

“I think in his heart of hearts he thought in the end he wouldn’t get it,” said Gov. Edward G. Rendell of Pennsylvania, a friend. “During the vetting process you mostly hear why you wouldn’t be a good candidate,” he added, naming “the change issue” and “some of the things he said during the campaign.”

But Mr. Biden had some powerful patrons in his corner whose opinions Mr. Obama respected, like Mr. Rendell; Representative Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, the chairman of the House Democratic caucus; and Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts—not only a respected Senate lion but also uncle to a senior member of Mr. Obama’s vetting team, Caroline Kennedy.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 26 at 8:38 am #

re: Rus7355
Thank you for the response. This is interesting. Has either one of these “posters” replied to your charge? If this is true Rus, what kind of deck of cards is being dealt here? Peace.

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By skmacksk, August 25 at 2:44 pm #

I was greatly disappointed that Joe Biden was Obama’s choice for Vice President. And then to see a host of regular bloggers singing the praises of the “choice” as if they were another arm of the Democratic Party’s Propaganda machine!
As a Democratic Socialist, I am by default a “Democrat” in my voting preference, but to the Democratic Party: DO NOT take my vote for granted!!!! There are other candidates! I do not surrender my critical faculties, or my judgment, to march lock step behind any candidate. I find Mr. Biden a mediocrity, a Democratic apparatchik! This is the kind of unimaginative choice that the dreaded Hillary would have made, had she the opportunity! McCain is of the same ilk as Mr. Biden with the one exception that Biden is not the captive of so great a political ambition, although it has its own level of hubris. And of course Biden is a more “reasoned” imperialist, but an imperialist none the less. McCain is a captive of the Neo-Conservative political psychosis and is a clear and present danger to the life of the Republic, so I will vote for the ticket that best represents the anti-imperial, progressive agenda that I support!

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By It's Me, August 25 at 11:43 am #
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Gee, I hope Obama enjoyed his little VP choice adventure.

Btw, has anyone seen the first national poll taken since Obama’s VP choice has sunk in?

CNN/Opinion Research
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen2.htm

Obama’s number has fallen down to a “tie” with McCain, even if you factor in Nader, Barr and McKinney.

Oh, and as she demonstrated over and over during the primaries, Hillary Clinton STILL polls higher than Obama does vs McCain.

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By SYED WARIS SHERE, August 25 at 8:53 am #
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The selection of Senator Joe Biden as Barack Obama’s running mate adds a whole different dimension. Indeed Joe’s selection with his foreign policy expertise is an important beginning. Joe Biden will contribute a great deal in this campaign. Joe Biden is Mr. Establishment Washington. He will bring the ticket vast experience and gravitas in foreign affairs, and also deep knowledge and understanding of the mechanics of Congress. Barack Obama has found useful strenghts in the selection which should help the Obama campaign. Former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton called Biden “an exceptionally strong, experienced leader and devoted public servant.” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the Obama-Biden ticket would bring the change the country needs. Democrats came together quickly around Obama’s selection of the 65-year-old veteran of three decades in the Senate — a choice meant to provide foreign policy heft to the party’s ticket for the fall campaign. “For decades, he has brought change to Washington, but Washington hasn’t changed him,” Obama said, attempting to blunt an emerging Republican line of attack that notes Biden’s several years experience in the corridors of the Capitol. Joe Biden is an expert on foreign policy whose heart and values are rooted firmly in the middle class, said Obama. Finally ss has been reported in New York Times, “Senator Barack Obama goes into the Democratic convention in Denver with a clear challenge: to match the soaring oratory that brought him to this moment in history with a strong and detailed explanation of how he will address the country’s many dire problems.”

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By thebeerdoctor, August 25 at 6:36 am #

re: Rus7355
Concerning these dual identities, how do you know this?

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By Outraged, August 24 at 11:53 pm #

Re: Debbie-Sue, August 24

Your comment: “ I will IN NO WAY vote for Obama now!! There’s just NO WAY NOW!!!!!!!!”

I would seriously consider a vote for Nader then.  Investigate Nader....and think very seriously about your vote.

I myself, was NEVER a supporter of Clinton.  In my mind she was/is just TOO corrupt.  However since Obama has usurped the rights given to the American People BY THE CONSTITUTION regarding several issues and McCain is an opportunist endorsing Bush’s bad policies, who then...?

All things considered, Nader is the only logical choice.  He has put himself once again in the “line of fire”....luckily, for us.  Vote Nader and undermine the corporate stranglehold of our democracy.

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By Outraged, August 24 at 9:05 pm #

Re: Marvin in NYC

I takes a really big tough guy to threaten employees of a DRY CLEANERS!  I’m willing to bet dollars to doughnuts you couldn’t punch your way out of a wet paper bag.  Or is McCain so useless… in fact, so incredibly inept that you have now resorted to threatening the employees of your dry-cleaning business to garner votes. 

You’re not saying much for your side.

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By thebeerdoctor, August 24 at 3:47 pm #

re: Debbie-Sue
I think there was a possibility for a Hilary Clinton alliance, but Bill Clinton destroyed that possibility. His non-endorsement endorsement of the presumptive nominee, probably was the final straw. But please note that Obama’s candidacy was designed to usurp control of the Democratic party. Obama’s attempts at unification seem disingenuous in the light of this situation. The bitterness and animosity, after the primaries, was genuine.
Asking Joe Biden to be his running mate, reveals that Senator Obama’s differences with Senator Clinton, were not really about policy. Biden’s record in the Senate reveals that he is even more hawkish than Hilary Clinton. So the disagreement between Obama and Clinton was personal. How incredibly frustrating it must have been for Senator Clinton, when she realized that all the party machinery could not stop her rival. It was simply too late, Obama had made the deal. And I do not think it is an exaggeration to say that this outcome makes former President Clinton boil in his own juices, even now.
Peace.

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By RUMCSwan, August 24 at 1:00 pm #

yellowbird2525, (August 24 at 4:27 am)

When I read your posts, I don’t know whether to cry or laugh, and end up doing both, like I am bipolar. I go from sad to hysterical. Doesn’t matter how many times I send SOS’s into the night-sky; those damn ET’s won’t send a space-ship to pick me and my canary up! Why do you think that is? 

Anyway, thanks for posting, I always read your posts.

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By Outraged, August 24 at 10:50 am #

Article quote: “Reports came back that he was not only potentially more energetic and disciplined than widely known, but also that he had a distinct appeal suited to the areas throughout the industrial Midwest where Mr. Obama had struggled in the primaries.”

I agree.  Biden definitely has a distinct appeal in the industrial Midwest and will be a boon to Obama in this area of the country.  He projects himself with a “cut the crap” type persona along with a “work hard and SUCCEED” empathy that midwestern and rural area democrats throughout the country hold in high esteem.  In fact, I think many rural republicans will warm to Biden.

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By Marvin in NYC, August 24 at 9:35 am #
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Obama = bad for business and my employees. 

My dry cleaning business has sixteen hourly employees.  I told them that I would immediately fire two employees if Obama was elected, to use their salaries to pay for the new taxes. And, no one was getting any more overtime.  Now, I believe that I just got sixteen more votes for McCain!

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By john5750, August 24 at 9:31 am #

“We Will Not Be Silenced”

Email: susanunpc at gmail dot com
Thanks to several alert readers here at No Quarter, I have learned about a new documentary on Caucus Fraud that is just coming out. “We Will Not Be Silenced, ” by Gigi Gaston, came into being according to their website because:

As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were granted us by our forefathers, who wrote documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. “We the people” expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected. However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this has not been the case.

We believe that the The Democratic National Committee (DNC) made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee.

That didn’t happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for “dinners,” etc.

There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party.

The preview, all 33 minutes of it, is compelling. In essence, it is a visual companion to the work of Dr. Lynette Long at Caucus Fraud and Peniel Cronin on Primaries and Caucuses (which will appear at NQ shortly).

In short, it is disturbing not just how this happened, but THAT it happened in our country.
I invite you to watch the preview to this documentary, about which the authors said this:
This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign.

We the People have made this film. Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of America. We want to be heard and let the country know how our party has sanctioned the actions of what we feel are Obama campaign “Chicago Machine” dirty politics.

We believe this infamous campaign of “change” from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which is, of course, all documented in “We Will Not Be Silenced.”

This documentary contains powerful, important information. I urge you to spread the word however you are able. Now is the time.

To view, CLICK HERE.
My deepest thanks to all of those at “We Will Not Be Silenced” for your commitment to democracy, to the rights of Americans, all Americans, to vote. Thank you for your courage and integrity in getting this critical information out. And thank you for bringing the voices of these Americans out for us all to witness.
Go to http://www.noquarterusa.net for links.

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By Debbie-Sue, August 24 at 5:23 am #
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As a Democrat I don’t know what to say anymore. I don’t know what to think anymore!! Why didn’t he choose Hillary?? WHY??!!?? A President would have worked it out with Hillary and worked WITH her!! I don’t understand all of this!! I don’t understand anything anymore!! I’ve just been BETRAYED so damn much by Obama!! SO DAMN MUCH!!

I will IN NO WAY vote for Obama now!! There’s just NO WAY NOW!!!!!!!! :(

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By thebeerdoctor, August 24 at 4:37 am #

Sorry the link does not quite work. If you put into search “Joe Biden’s wedding ban” it will turn up. Anyway the gist of the article was (and what does one expect from the NY Daily News) that Biden not wearing a wedding ring might spell trouble in the symbolism of big time politics. Can anyone believe this?

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By thebeerdoctor, August 24 at 4:30 am #

Despite all the serious political discussion, you got to ask yourself how serious any of this is. A case in point:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/23/20 08-08-23_joe_bidens_lack_of_a_wedding_band_could_html

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By yellowbird2525, August 24 at 4:27 am #

most citizens show their utter contempt of the “dysfunctional” we prefer to be called instead of dictatorship lawless tyrants progressively leading our country at the whim of the wealthy & Corps into worse & worse scenario’s by quite simply NOT bothering to vote; the #1 country? in DEATHS of babies & children (truth: premeditated agressive poisoning with full permission of a Pres & Congress & Pentagon who “try” to appear NO stem cell research, gotta save brain dead womans life! as life is precious to deliberately MISLEAD the public into thinking they are something that they are not. Doesn’t matter who is in: in Oregon, they have already decided THEY own the land, THEY own the water, and THEY have “BETTER INTELLIGENCE” than anyone else; emails are shredded like in Clinton’s days at White House without being read. The only “voters” who will be there are the paid for ones illegal immigrants who got money, cars, trucks,etc all illegally; while the vets got killed off (also a known Clinton factor); death by accident or suicide when would not take bribes; stripped of medical benefits, pensions; for them & their families as promised; Indians failed yet to get a CENT of $ “held” for them for oil on their land; by the “superior mindset” that promised to take care of it for them; they KEPT it for themselves; just like they keep 2/3s of all “aide” going to countries for “overhead” costs; it comes down from Feds, to St, to Countys & to cities; irregardless of whether dem or rep in office folks;

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