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Obama-Biden ‘08Posted on Aug 22, 2008
Barack Obama has chosen Joe Biden as his running mate. It’s an interesting choice, given that Obama is running a change campaign and Biden has been a Washington fixture for decades. Also because the two ran against each other in the primary, during which Biden famously had to apologize for unfortunate comments about his rival. The Obama campaign is likely to exploit Biden’s experience, particularly in the area of foreign affairs. The elder senator has already been an effective advocate for the Democratic nominee, and his plain-spoken (if gaffe-prone) style will surely be useful against John McCain. Update: Obama’s campaign confirmed his pick early Saturday morning with an image of Biden and Obama on the campaign Web site’s splash page and a request for support and donations.
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By thebeerdoctor, August 23, 2008 at 4:18 am Link to this comment
Found this sympathetic profile of Senator Biden, from the Middle East:
Report thishttp://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2008/08/20088236923967867.html
By Frank, August 23, 2008 at 4:12 am Link to this comment
Fahrenheit 451, there are dozens of political parties in the US. You never heard of the Green Party or Libertarian Party? There are no constitutional restrictions on third parties fielding candidates in any election. They only need the signatures and the money to run, and neither of those ingredients should be a government entitlement.
Report thisBy Da Bronx, August 23, 2008 at 3:55 am Link to this comment
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So the voters have turned Joe away from his own run at the presidency four times, and Obama thinks he’s da man?
What this does for the Democratic campaign is bring Obama’s seeming lack of judgement back to the fore.
Here’s an Eastern establishment career politician with strong ties to the banking indrustry (which gave us the forclosure crisis)and a fondness for spending US dollars overseas.
Kiss any hope of winning Colorado and Nevada good bye.
If he loses California (where Biden is as popular as a fart in church)we an chalk up another loss to the Losercrats….Maybe they should change their name to “CUBS”
Report thisBy thebeerdoctor, August 23, 2008 at 3:53 am Link to this comment
re: Fahrenheit 451
I sense your frustration. The two party system reminds me of the computer, where it is commonly accepted that when it comes to operating systems, there is either Apple or Microsoft. Of course no one wants to inform you that there is a free, community based operating system called Ubuntu. In fact, I am posting this using their great system.
Report thisThe either/or mentality prevents creative possibilities. Perhaps a start would be to begin by thinking: there must be a better way. A retooling of the status quo is just not good enough.
By Purple Girl, August 23, 2008 at 3:40 am Link to this comment
Did a quick check of members of the DLC- didn’t see Bidens name..YEAH!!!!
Report thisThese assholes -who’s little group is funded by Corps- have been trying to take over the Democratic Party since 1984 (Appropo!).They gave US Gore/Lieberman and Kerry/Edwards-I voted of both,but only by holding my True Democratic nose. Gore may be proving he was never a ‘true believer’ in the DLC, reason the Clintons have had so little todo with him?
Funny Bill can go on a PSA with HW about disaster preparedness, but can’t seem to find the time to do the same about Global Warming- the reason we need ‘Disaster preparedness’
I’m not estatic about Biden, He’s been around for the amount of years our country has been steering off track and towards a Corp Hostile takeover situation, But I am relieved it was NOT Hillary or one of her DLC Minions like Bayh.
The DLC has a Grand Notion called ‘The Third Way’...Not Republican Nor Democrat, Theirs is the same as the Neo Cons in Red…The Corp Way-Imperialistic and Totalitarian.
Real Dems must fight this group who has infiltrated and infested OUR Party.It’s time to tell those in the DLC to get out and form theri own party with those hiding in the Republican party. Frankly I miss the Ol’School Republicans- fiscal Responsibilty,FREE MARKET (for Individuals Not Corps), limited intrusion into citizens personal and daily life.
I still think it would have been far better for Obama to choose an Ol’ School Republican for his VP- effectively kicking the shit out of those who have used these parties as camoflague for the Corp sponsors.
By TheRealFish, August 23, 2008 at 3:23 am Link to this comment
Wayno:
Suppose for a moment that the Dems & Independents remember 20 years ago: Biden correctly credited the original author in all speeches but one, and (of course) the one where he failed to make mention of the originator was caught on video. Straw-grasping desperation.
Suppose anyone with a mind clear of McCain-loving media thrall-speak knows who is the real bloviater out there (Mr. noun+verb+POW definition: Obama and wife make $4 mil a year = middle class; only those making over $5 mil are “rich.”)
And remember Bush’s first official oath (lie): “I swear (before God) to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.” (Non) “maverick” McCain then supports 95% of everything that Bush Co. rammed through his Neocon/Neo-fascist thralls in Congress, including ways to torture.
Suppose Dems and Independents completely forget his most recent eight years of Bush-butt-nuzzling, and promises to carry that flag forward, but to do so with continued promises to strike first/think later to any and all situations.
Suppose Dems and Independents completely forget McCain being one of the Keating 5 corruption in the 80s. Sure, Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised “poor judgment” by the ethics committee. Suppose Dems and Independents do not feel any surprise by criticisms of poor judgment.
Suppose that Dems and Independents fail to recognize that McCain has proven, over and over and over again in just the past many weeks that he will lie, obfuscate and obscure without breaking a sweat, and considers any reaction to his most scurrilous attacks on his rival as just lacking a sense of humor.
I wonder how much humor he displayed when unjustly flayed by the Bush/Cheney/Rove machine in his very last days as a maverick, eight long years ago.
The McCain monologue to-date: “You are an elitist (though you are—by my definition—middle class, having grown up on modest means when my brother admits Mom took care of the finances and daddy didn’t even know how many oil producing holdings we had in Oklahoma. And homes? Can’t be bothered by that; best left to the servant I paid over $200K last year). And I want it re-institute the draft, so we can say FU to the Iraqis who want us gone and stay for the next century, help Bush aim missiles at a sleeping Bear so we can finally “keep our will” and fight them too. My ‘friends.’
“And, oh, yeah—let’s perfect this thing about privatizing the federal government. We’ve gone maybe 3/4 of the way there already (I helped), so there’s not much more to do [recommended: Find a Webster’s and look up “fascism”].”
And there is just oh, so much more. McCain really should take on Romney as a VP choice. Between them and individually, they have taken a stance on every side of every issue out there. Pro-choice/pro-life. Stay a hundred years and leave by 2013 (even though leaving is “surrender”).
Then again, suppose that Dems and Independents DON’T forget, when reminded of these inconvenient truths the vast MSM fall all over themselves to hide.
Obama, Biden, McCain, Romney, economy, Iraq? None of them even matter when it boils down to the very simple, single fact that the Neo/Fascist/Cons have almost completely destroyed our check-and-balance democracy and replaced it with something that would make Orwell gasp in recognition.
Neo-Repugs want to complete their mission of forever altering a country they never really liked anyway (it was founded on very, very liberal principles) and, at the moment, McCain is the standard bearer leading the charge to forever bury our country’s ideals, principles and freedoms once and for all time.
That’s the real—the only—choice on the table right now. Bury the US? Vote McCain. Attempt to revive it from its near-terminal coma state?
Obama—and whomever stands by his side—are the only viable choices at hand for that task.
Report thisBy Benjamin Crossley-Marra, August 23, 2008 at 3:06 am Link to this comment
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I think Joe Biden is an excellent choice. He’s smart, articulate and has plenty of experience. Obama is going to make a fantastic president and represents the fact that fat, white, idiots don’t make up the majority of this country anymore.
This country needs an intellectual, charismatic leader during these tough economic times. Not old white men who help their rich friends get richer or who believe that the world began in a garden with magic trees and talking animals.
Get real!
Report thisBy Fahrenheit 451, August 23, 2008 at 3:04 am Link to this comment
Good bye Obama and hello McCain. This should just about seal Obama’s defeat. Just what is this strange disease infecting democrats; anybody know? Loseritis, Presidentaphobia, Vertigo (fear of high places), or is it impotence from an inability to perform during political intercourse? Jeez, I think we need a few more parties; two just aren’t enough.
Report thisBy thebeerdoctor, August 23, 2008 at 2:46 am Link to this comment
re: G. Anderson, Ed Harges
Senator Biden once said: “any country that engages in genocide forfeits their sovereignty.”
Report thisI’m just asking, but would such a rule apply to Turkey from what happened to the Armenians in 1915? Or for that matter, what about the United States and the bombing of Nagasaki; as the late novelist Kurt Vonnegut stated that he could understand the reasons for the first atomic blast, but the second?
I gather too that the late peace activist Rachel Corrie was being hysterical when she used the word genocide to describe Israeli policy towards the Palestinians. Perhaps ethnic cleansing is a more appropriate term.
Yes I too believe that Senator Biden’s so-called bankruptcy reform is an insult to everyone who actually works for a living.
How strange. The candidacy that was suppose to be about change, turns to a Senator who has been there since 1973. Touted for his foreign policy expertise, and I wonder, why? What has been the great accomplishment?
One more note: this is for the rewrite department. Scratch out those lines about John McCain being in Washington too long. Biden has been there even longer.
By G.Anderson, August 23, 2008 at 2:08 am Link to this comment
Unfortunate. Sad news. A stumble.
Biden’s ties to Credit Card reform, and Bankrupcy reform, make this a slap in the face to all working men and women.
Almost any other vice presidential candiate would have been better. This decision will be very hard for Obama to overcome.
Report thisBy Ed Harges, August 23, 2008 at 1:13 am Link to this comment
May Ponce writes:
“Who the fuck does Joe Biden bring to the table?”
Well, May, here’s a hint, from the Jewish Daily Forward:
As the liberals clamor for greater distance between the U.S. and Israel, one of Washingtons most vocal critics of the administrations Middle East policy is vowing to keep the two countries joined at the hip if he is elected president.
...“The Arab nations have known that there is no daylight between us and Israel.”
http://www.forward.com/blogs/campaign-confidential/forward-interview-biden-rejects-clamoring-for-the/
-Joe Biden
Report thisBy Ed Harges, August 23, 2008 at 1:01 am Link to this comment
Joe Biden is all about foreign policy.
Therefore this pick is about foreign policy and therefore it’s all about Israel (because our foreign policy is all about Israel) and therefore about the Florida Jewish vote.
This is just more of what Obama has been doing ever since he got the nomination: running to the right on foreign policy to placate the Israel-first crowd.
Report thisBy Mayponce, August 23, 2008 at 12:42 am Link to this comment
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me-Joe Biden?
Who the fuck does Joe Biden bring to the table?
I hate Hillary Clinton as well as Obama, but picking Joe Biden makes no sense at all. Looks like the Democrats are doing everything they can to lose as per usual…
Report thisBy It's Me, August 23, 2008 at 12:15 am Link to this comment
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Biden brings almost nothing positive enough to Obama’s falling numbers to win the election for him…other than the fact that now Obama can point to his own token “old, grey-haired dude” for that demographic.
The choice is perhaps Obama’s most spectacular flip-flop to date; Biden is an “old way” “Washington insider” 20 years deeper and longer than the Clintons. And he not only “voted for the war” on the supposed “judgment” issue Obama beat up Clinton and everyone else over for 15 months, he is one of the three Senators who actually RE-WROTE the Congressional Authorization To Use Force Against Iraq before the vote specifically to make sure it wasn’t a blank check for Bush to go to war with Iraq or any other country…proving Obama to be a liar on two counts central to his entire primary campaign.
Within two weeks after the Democratic Convention, Obama’s poll numbers vs McCain will probably be even lower than they are today.
Report thisBy Wayno, August 23, 2008 at 12:10 am Link to this comment
Suppose for a moment the GOP forgets Biden’s embarassing plagiarism.
Report thisSuppose for a moment Biden won’t continue to orate/pontificate/bloviate ad nausium.
Suppose for a moment Biden isn’t a Washington insider with seriously over-bleached teeth.
Then yahoo, we got Delaware’s 3 electoral votes in the bag!!!
After a couple weeks of yawn-inducing political campaigning, cow-towing to Evangelicals and his Bush-like vacation (gotta recharge with the family during an international crisis and be too busy to respond)...we have the least inspiring, most predictable, least courageous choice for VP since Joe Lieberman (it even hurts to type his name).
Thought this one was gonna be different.
Fooled again.
Who the hell is running this show???...(I see the steady hand of Donna Brazille on the tiller…has she ever won an election???)do they think white men with beer bellies cotton to Joe Biden??? Hell, we could even lose Toby Keith over this one.
Why not go after a real constituency??? Hello…women???
And the gold medal for election throwing goes to…
Barak Obama…the “different” politician.
By Bearcat, August 22, 2008 at 11:52 pm Link to this comment
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Who/ Wha’? Are you kidden’ me? God dam these dems would eff’ up a three car funeral.
Report thisBy basho, August 22, 2008 at 11:32 pm Link to this comment
jeez, is that the best he could do.
business as usual only the names and the faces change.
‘one ring to rule them all’
Report thisBy harleycartman, August 22, 2008 at 10:44 pm Link to this comment
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Joe Biden is 65 years old, serving his 6th term, Biden has served for the sixth-longest period among current Senators (fourth among Democrats) and is Delaware’s longest-serving Senator. I thought NOBama wanted change? I guess he is just another Con Artist. Maybe Grandpa Joe can take BO to Chuck E. Cheeses to brief him on foreign and domestic policy. My lib friends are going to die when they hear his pick in the morning. Im going to sleep like a baby
Report thisBy Kevin Pierce, August 22, 2008 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment
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POLITICAL HURDLES
NEWSWIRE—Barack Obama has selected U.S. Senator Joseph Biden of Delaware as his intended vice-presidential ticket-mate.
Using track as a guide,
Judge the running mate’s stride
As he sprints between north and deep south:
Can he dash down a phrase,
Trot it out where it pays,
Yet avoid running off at the mouth?
http://www.newsandverse.com
Report thisLight verse, ripped from the headlines
By Ted, August 22, 2008 at 9:40 pm Link to this comment
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Biden the perfect foil for Palin!
Report thisBy Reubenesque, August 22, 2008 at 9:35 pm Link to this comment
The dems have plenty of ammo and Joe shoots from the hip. He will destroy his repooplican opponent in their debates. Bring it on poopdaddies!
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