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Gorbachev: ‘Russia Did Not Want This Crisis’

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Posted on Aug 19, 2008
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Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev has weighed in again about the recent bloody battles between Russia and Georgia, this time insisting in a New York Times Op-Ed piece that Russia was “dragged into the fray by the recklessness of the Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili” and “did not need a little victorious war.”


Mikhail Gorbachev in The New York Times:

Russia did not want this crisis. The Russian leadership is in a strong enough position domestically; it did not need a little victorious war. Russia was dragged into the fray by the recklessness of the Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili. He would not have dared to attack without outside support. Once he did, Russia could not afford inaction.

The decision by the Russian president, Dmitri Medvedev, to now cease hostilities was the right move by a responsible leader. The Russian president acted calmly, confidently and firmly. Anyone who expected confusion in Moscow was disappointed.

The planners of this campaign clearly wanted to make sure that, whatever the outcome, Russia would be blamed for worsening the situation. The West then mounted a propaganda attack against Russia, with the American news media leading the way.

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By voice of truth, August 21, 2008 at 3:22 pm Link to this comment

I love this.  There is a front page photo around the country of blindfolded Georgian prisoners being paraded around by Russian soldiers.  This is against the Geneva Conventions and is, in fact, an actual war crime.  However, not a peep from you wackos here who can only try to trip over each other trying to figure out a way to tie this to your hatred of George Bush.

Where is the outrage over an ACTUAL DOCUMENTED WAR CRIME?  You people are so crazed it’s scary.

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By JimM, August 21, 2008 at 1:17 pm Link to this comment

This Georgian fiasco has the hoofprints of Rove and Cheney all over it.
How about the role of MCains’s adviser?

Russia is portrayed as the baddie by the msm-did anyone see the cover of that dumb-ass rag “The Week?”
It’s obnoxious motto is “all the news that matters’ or some such drivel. People actually read a thing like this and believe it, so sad.

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By Purple Girl, August 21, 2008 at 8:02 am Link to this comment

Afghanistan- known ‘unwinnable’, but a great ‘foot in the door’
Iraq- Oil Fields
Iran-Oil Fields
Georgia- Pipelines from Russia oil fields.
Hmmmmm
Who birthed and raised, most of the 9/11 attackers; Merely sent them away to’College’ in Afghanistan?Who do we hear so scantly about when all these Upheavals surface? Who has the Red Carpet rolled out for the Oil corps to work their fields.Who has elevated these ‘Cracker’ hinchmen,Being allowed in the ‘house’. Saudi Arabia.And what do they have,which maintains their ‘Royal’ Status & wealth from?OIL
Who have We got ‘co signed’ agreements with WE never placed OUR pen to that paper.Who’s signatures are on these agreement- should they be held responsible for Forgery?
What is the interest, collateral,Trade and what happens if it is defaulted?

What is the latest Political scam…Offshore Drilling for OIL.And who will own and control the oil gained from off OUR shores..The same ones who own & control the Oil Now-The Corps

This is not conflict between citizens of these various nations, it is a War for a major energy source. And by inceasing the price of this widely used fuel source, you decrease disposable income. Increase food,  of course all forms of energy and and toss a little morgage crisis and Voila you have a hungry commodity- not just willing to accept less,but MUST.Add a little Moral imparative to bump up birth rates so the ‘competitive’ market gets tighter driving ‘prices ‘(wages) down farther.And Bam! You got that commodity eating right our of your hand.
As through all history, The control of resources = Power.Resources does not just include inanimate objects, but human labor. The most versatile, self sufficient and efficient.A Highly prized commodity-esp when the supply side is heavy and hungry .To Own and control both inanimate and animated energy sources, you have the world by the balls!
We must finally come to the realization that there essentials which should be afford to all.
Energy from natural resources should be moved over to mainly clean safe and renewable enegry sources.
what natural resources within a countries is first and foremost THEIR resource to use & sell.
It is not a commodity which should be gambled on.

Neither should the Food Supply. It should be always considered first before another biofuel is used as a scapegoat by the Oil Corps.Starting with Corn was no mistake..it was the perfect wide spread commodity that would require more fuel to produce and having a devasting effect on food prices-Nobody thought that would happen?? that was No “Duh” it was a ‘Ah Ha!!How best to cripple alternative fuel support then have a biofuel cause famine!Funny how fast the Big 3 were with bring out those ‘flex fuels’, a bit slower on the electric (even though it’s been around for at least 20 yrs). I heard there is research into using crap..that would put the oil industry out of business- we could be making our own at home, kids, dogs, horses..hell we could start selling our own! Shit that’s what India uses for most of it’s fire needs- it burns, it creats energy.Have to work on the scenting though.

They have proven that brick and mortar does not possess a soul and is Not the Ordained Steward of this Planet. The only reason these enetities exist is because WE developed them and their switches are ONLY turned by other Humans.We must hold those responsible for letting this Humanitarian Frankenstein loose on the global ‘village’.
Corporationist have used capitolism and destroyed the Free market.They have ridden is dead pony til it’s dropped, now they are on to facism,‘wrapped in a flag & carrying a Bible’
We need to Stop ‘Doing Business’ and start Doing the Duty of Stewardship, that includes managing our Tools!

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By Fahrenheit 451, August 21, 2008 at 3:20 am Link to this comment
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Addendum: Russia has severed all military ties with NATO according to the Norwegian Defense Ministry.  Good job George.  Cornered Bears are very dangerous; I don’t think Bush is up to this game.  Somebody please give him a time out.  I just don’t think he realizes what he’s doing.  From all I’ve read; I don’t think Putin will blink.  Bush is like a two year old who found daddy’s .45.

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By Fahrenheit 451, August 20, 2008 at 7:32 pm Link to this comment
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It has been suggested Georgia was prompted to attack by the U.S.  As time passes it would appear this is the case.  One of many cards up the neocon sleeve to affect the outcome of the election.  It obviously plays to fear; to which Americans are particularly vulnerable.  Unwittingly, the Russians are playing right into the neocon ploy by continuing to escalate the showdown.  This is all quite unremarkable given the last 8 years.

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By PatrickHenry, August 20, 2008 at 4:59 pm Link to this comment

Russia isn’t at fault here.

I hope public condemnation of Bush’s foreign policy regarding Georgia prevents a last gasp act by the current administration to screw things up totally for the incomming president.

Their time is short.

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By Ed Harges, August 20, 2008 at 2:11 pm Link to this comment

re: By Frank, August 20 at 12:35 pm:

Frank ignores the fact that in nuclear arms, there’s really no such thing as purely “defensive” missiles, because if you have missile defenses, then at least theoretically you make it easier for yourself to launch a first strike, i.e., an offensive strike.

That’s why the ABM system and “Star Wars” were considered destabilizing by arms control experts, because they short-circuited the system of mutual deterrence and made nuclear war more likely, because certain sick minds (like those of the neocons) might now consider such a war “winnable”.

The ultimate answer of course, is mutual nuclear disarmament on all sides, as required by the NPT. But the US is blatantly violating the NPT by continuing to develop new nuclear weapons and new deployments of them. The US is always complaining about Iran, but Iran is complying with the NPT, while the US is violating it. And Russia is right to believe that the US’s arming of Russia’s neighbors with nuclear weapons is fraught with aggressive intent on the part of the US, especially given the track record of this administration.

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By Frank, August 20, 2008 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment

SteveL, I think I can help you with that logic. The US missiles planned for Poland are intercepter missiles for missile defense. These are surface-to-air defensive weapons and are never pointed “at” anything in terms of a fixed ground target. 

Russia isn’t opposed to these because they are directly threatened by them. They are opposed to them because these missiles further diminish Russia’s old cold war ability to dominate in the region with the implied threat of Russian nuclear   missiles.

Pretty simple, really.

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By SteveL, August 20, 2008 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment

Condoleezza Wright now says we will put missiles in Poland that aren’t pointed at anything.  Anyone want to explain the logic in this.

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By Blackspeare, August 20, 2008 at 11:23 am Link to this comment

Buying used military equipment from Georgia would be a good deal. The weapons are some of the best American taxpayers can afford, most have never been fired and they have only been dropped once.

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By Ed Harges, August 20, 2008 at 9:13 am Link to this comment

The Georgian government launched an unprovoked, deliberately set-up surprise attack on the civilian population of South Ossetia’s capital city, and deliberately killed Russian peacekeeping troops who were there under UN auspices.

Russia’s counterstrike against Georgia was not just provoked but made morally necessary by Georgia’s action.

Whether Russia may have gone too far in the way it carried out its counterstrike (and I don’t think it necessarily did) is a separate question.

Notwithstanding that aspect of the matter, the overwhelming blame for all the damage and loss of life belongs to Georgia, not Russia.

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