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McCain: ‘We Are All Georgians’

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Posted on Aug 14, 2008
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If there is any doubt that John McCain is gulping down the neocon Kool-Aid on Georgia, one need only read his new manifesto in The Wall Street Journal, where he once again flaunts his Wikipedia-sourced foreign policy expertise.

In addition to misrepresenting the crisis in favor of his good friend and neocon man-crush Georgian President Saakashvili, McCain once again speaks as if he isn’t the leading cheerleader for America’s own war of agression: “The world has learned at great cost the price of allowing aggression against free nations to go unchecked.”


John McCain in The Wall Street Journal:

For anyone who thought that stark international aggression was a thing of the past, the last week must have come as a startling wake-up call. After clashes in the Georgian region of South Ossetia, Russia invaded its neighbor, launching attacks that threaten its very existence. Some Americans may wonder why events in this part of the world are any concern of ours. After all, Georgia is a small, remote and obscure place. But history is often made in remote, obscure places.

As Russian tanks and troops moved through the Roki Tunnel and across the internationally recognized border into Georgia, the Russian government stated that it was acting only to protect Ossetians. Yet regime change in Georgia appears to be the true Russian objective.

Two years ago, I traveled to South Ossetia. As soon as we arrived at its self-proclaimed capital—now occupied by Russian troops—I saw an enormous billboard that read, “Vladimir Putin, Our President.” This was on sovereign Georgian territory.

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By cyrena, August 15, 2008 at 2:40 pm Link to this comment

Purplewolf..

“..Why does any country have to send in experts to train the people of other countries to kill other people?..

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Purplewolf, we don’t ALWAYS send out own ‘experts’ out to do the training on host site. For years the military has maintained sites right here, and the trainees come here for the schooling.

The most popular International University of Torture used to be called the “School of the Americas” there in Ft. Benning GA. That’s were all of the Latin American killers (massacre leaders) and torturers of the 70’s and 80’s got their training, and even on into the 90’s. We’ve trained nearly every mass murder regime in Latin America. They do the schooling here, and then return to kill massive numbers of civilians in their own countries, always backed by the US.

Anyway, that place got such a bad reputation that they’ve changed the name now, to the Western Hemisphere something or other.

Then there’s another facility in AZ that does the same thing. Can’t recall the name right now. Starts with an H.

So you see, sometimes we train them here, and other times we train them on their own site.

Now since McCain thinks ‘we’re all Georgians’ I wonder if we’re “all” Iraqis, or ‘all’ Afghans, or ‘all’ anybody where the US has military troops in attendance?

To be honest, I’m not ANY of those, and if this keeps up, I’m not gonna be an American anymore either. I’m just not sure what to change myself into yet.

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By samosamo, August 15, 2008 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment

This is just much more than an irritant. To inflame perpetual wars and casting it as our new form of entertainment is irresponsible. But biggest most horrible and detached feeling of not being able to do anything about it is all the people in this country that are NOT doing anything to stop it.
Our government has just gone berserk. And there seems to be absolutely no help from the military to say ‘NO MORE” as it is as infected with gold diggers as the government is. So, NO ole johnny, I ain’t one of your georgian lackies. Hope you loose!

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By samosamo, August 15, 2008 at 1:21 pm Link to this comment

By Fadel Abdallah, August 14 at 8:25 pm

I love it when things don’t go fux’s way. This video is priceless.

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By purplewolf, August 15, 2008 at 8:52 am Link to this comment

This is another premeditated war in the making. Why does any country have to send in experts to train the people of other countries to kill other people? People have been fighting and killing each other for thousands of years, they do not need any more training in that. They do need training on how to get along and learn to live with each other more.

Amazing that G.W. can have about 2000 troops of Georgians air-lifted out of Iraq and sent home immediately to fight-after they instigated this fiasco, yet it takes years, decades to bring our own troops back to America, if ever. We still have troops in countries we have fought over 60 years ago.

This is also another reason for the Bush bunch to seize more “rights” away from the citizens of this country, in the false name of HLS, NSA, etc. Look at the past 7 1/2 years of lies and destruction that have been released to the public, no telling what we don’t know yet, but picture your worse case scenario. Probably close.

If this escalates into another armed conflict, this one with Russia, along with all the other wars current and planned by this administration(can you say IRAN), you can kiss the November elections good bye. But hey, they have gone on far too long anyway. It would be one way to end it. That’s another distracter to current events American should be informed of, the long boring drug out campaign reiterate. Other countries waste far less money and time and energy(wasted gasoline for planes, buses and cars etc,)selecting a leader, some in a matter of weeks. It would be much more efficient-something this country never seems to learn-to follow their example. And talk about efficiency, in time, money and destruction to the planet and people, this next conflict should only be fought by the leaders of the involved countries and only them. No more thousands of cannon fodder(poor people)wasted in these wet dream follies of school yard bullies claiming territories not theirs. Just think of all the money we could save by not having to make and buy all those weapons that don’t work either, let alone the cost of lives and then rebuilding the very things we destroyed over there. If they want the wars so bad, Bush/Cheney, the M.E. conflicts, John McCain, Iran and Georgia, it is up to them, and them alone to fight their own fights. Others should not be expected or even asked to fight in those childish fantasies. It has nothing to do with defending the homeland, there is not enough fit warriors left to defend the homeland anymore. If any other country decided to invade the U.S. today or tomorrow, in the words of our fearful leader,(He Who Hides in Bushes) “It will be a cakewalk”.

As the saying goes, never plan anything, it never works out the way you think.

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By purplewolf, August 15, 2008 at 8:18 am Link to this comment

John McShame-you do not speak for me. I am not Georgian. By including all Americans as such, you prove you are unfit for public office in this country as your loyalties do not lay with America and it’s best interest. Your loyalties lay in Georgia, as Bushit’s Inc,lay with Iraq and the turmoil in the M.E., as well as Israel and it’s lack of ability to get along with anyone else in the world. Not shut-up and go lay down in the corner.

In fact why don’t they have a MR. BUFFALO CHIP CONTEST, I nominate John, another piece of crap brought to you by the Repulsive-can (maybe) Party.

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By Purple Girl, August 15, 2008 at 7:14 am Link to this comment

Funny how W. & Putin were seated right next to each other at the Olympics- chit chatting over their wives
That clip needs to be on a loop- while Russia invades, these two are rekindling their love affair- Please this has nothing to do with Imperial aggression- it has to do wiht profiteering. WAR’s a Money Maker.
Reason W. ‘looked into His eyes and saw his soul’ because it had the same Logo’s which are stamped on W’s eyes.

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By Tony Wicher, August 14, 2008 at 9:28 pm Link to this comment

This Wikipedia entry should provide good context:

South Ossetia (Ossetic: Хуссар Ирыстон, Khussar Iryston; Georgian: სამხრეთი ოსეთი, Samkhreti Oseti; Russian: Южная Осетия, Yuzhnaya Osetiya) is a region in the South Caucasus, formerly the South Ossetian Autonomous Oblast within the Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic. A part of it has been de facto independent from Georgia since it declared independence as the Republic of South Ossetia early in the 1990s during the Georgian-Ossetian conflict. The capital of the region is Tskhinvali.

The independence has not been diplomatically recognized by any member of the United Nations – which continues to regard South Ossetia as part of Georgia. Georgia has retained control over parts of the region’s eastern and southern districts where it created, in April 2007, a Provisional Administrative Entity of South Ossetia headed by ethnic Ossetians (former members of the separatist government) under the leadership of Dmitry Sanakoev which would negotiate with central Georgian authorities regarding its final status and conflict resolution.

The United Nations, European Union, Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), Council of the European Union, North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and all other countries in the world recognize South Ossetia as part of Georgia. However, the de facto independent republic governed by the secessionist government held a second independence referendum on November 12, 2006, after its first referendum in 1992 was not recognized by the international community as valid. According to the Tskhinvali election authorities, the referendum turned out a majority for independence from Georgia where 99% of South Ossetian voters supported independence and the turnout for the vote was 95% and the referendum was monitored by a team of 34 international observers from Germany, Austria, Poland, Sweden and other countries at 78 polling stations. However, it was not recognized internationally by the UN, European Union, OSCE, NATO and the Russian Federation, given the lack of ethnic Georgian participation and the legality of such referendum without recognition from the central government in Tbilisi. The European Union, OSCE and NATO condemned the referendum. Parallel to the secessionist held referendum and elections, the Ossetian opposition movement (The Salvation Union of South Ossetia) to Kokoity, organized their own elections in which both Georgian and some Ossetian inhabitants of the region voted in favour of Dmitri Sanakoev as the alternative President of South Ossetia.[12] The alternative elections of Sanakoev claimed full support of the ethnic Georgian population. In 2007, Dmitri Sanakoev became the head of the Provisional Administration of South Ossetia.

On July 13, 2007, Georgia set up a state commission, chaired by the Prime Minister Zurab Noghaideli, to develop South Ossetia’s autonomous status within the Georgian state. According to the Georgian officials, the status will be elaborated within the framework of “an all-inclusive dialogue” with all the forces and communities within the Ossetian society.[13]

On August 8, 2008, on the same day as the 2008 Olympic Games officially commenced, hostilities began between Georgian forces and South Ossetia’s separatist forces. The Russian Foreign Minister has stated that over 1500 civilians and 15 Russian peacekeepers have been killed since hostilities began.[14]

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By Fadel Abdallah, August 14, 2008 at 9:25 pm Link to this comment

You only speak for yourself you SOB! No, we are not all Georgians and because I have to share Americanism with an evil like you I feel a great urge to denounce my Americanism!

You petty-minded warmonger should listen to a this 12-year old girl, brought on Fox News, hopefully to condemn the Russians, but they got a nice surprise when the girl openly thanked the Russians for saving her family from the brutality of the Georgian army that started the attack on her town!

This video should be declared the best of the year and can be accessed at: 

http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=94

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By cyrena, August 14, 2008 at 8:38 pm Link to this comment

Marion Ross, thank you for putting this time line down, so that ANYONE should be able to follow it..I’m reposting so that we can be certain to read and ABSORB the context here, and specifically in terms of McCains bullshit.

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*July 15, White House sends 1,500 armed troops to Georgia

*July 17, Russia had presented a draft resolution of non-use of force in S. Ossetia and to the UN Security Council. The UK and USA blocked the resolution.

*August 8, on the eve of the Olympic Games, Georgia bombarded the capital city of S. Ossetia, killing hundreds of civilians and a dozen of UN peacekeepers. Some 12 hours later, Russian military forces started counter-offensive.

Thousands of refugees fled from S. Ossetia to Russia. The humanitarian crisis.

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By Dan, August 14, 2008 at 7:07 pm Link to this comment
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I think Georgian president Sakashvilli is a russian agent. Here is why:
- he gave Russia a perfectly good reason to invade separatist regions of Georgia by attacking S.Ossetia. Now, those regions will never be Georgian.
- if he was “smarter” he would wait when his country joins NATO and then attack OR at least try to buy S.Ossetians and Abhasians with money or some other persuasion. By using the force he gave up his country and the western allies to Russia.

Only a foreign spy can do so much harm to Georgia in so little time.

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By Marion Ross, August 14, 2008 at 3:32 pm Link to this comment
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McCain advisor Scheunemann is a well-paid lobbyist for Georgia
F.W. Engdahl: “According to an Israeli-intelligence source, DEBKA file, in 2007, the Georgian President Saakashvili “commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.”
The joint American-Georgian military excersises had been held just 3 week before the conflict.
July 15, White House sends 1,500 armed troops to Georgia
July 17, Russia had presented a draft resolution of non-use of force in S. Ossetia and to the UN Security Council. The UK and USA blocked the resolution.
August 8, on the eve of the Olympic Games, Georgia bombarded the capital city of S. Ossetia, killing hundreds of civilians and a dozen of UN peacekeepers. Some 12 hours later, Russian military forces started counter-offensive.
Thousands of refugees fled from S. Ossetia to Russia. The humanitarian crisis.

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