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Posted on Aug 5, 2008
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Traders work on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange on Tuesday.

Finally, some slightly better financial news has hit the wires after months of sobering reports: Oil prices dropped to a three-month low on Tuesday, which may be due to “the softening market,” as one analyst puts it in this NYT account, but whatever the reason it still means a slight reprieve from weeks of punishing prices. Stock markets had their biggest gains in four months, leading to the usual flurry of economic speculations and explanations (see below).


The New York Times:

While it is difficult to pinpoint the exact causes for daily market moves, some analysts pointed to weather forecasts predicting that the tropical storm hitting the coast of Texas would bypass major drilling platforms and refineries. That would mean no serious disruptions to domestic oil supplies, which some had initially feared.

There is also a broader sense among investors that the slowdown in economic growth will curb fuel demand around the world, pulling prices back to more reasonable levels. Oil prices have fallen about 17 percent in three weeks. Gas prices in the United States have dropped back below $4 a gallon. And the economic downturn has been worse in some countries than financial experts had anticipated.

“There’s no real magic other than the softening economy,” Ric Navy, an analyst at BNP Paribas, said. “You can try to decide whether it’s anything more than that, but that’s in the eye of the beholder.”

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By Aegrus, August 6, 2008 at 11:49 am Link to this comment

The market manipulators are just selling the stock short before the election. Saber rattling is still going on. Just today, I was reading an article from the BBC saying about tougher sanctions on Iran. Nothing has changed, and the big oil companies are still lining their pockets.

Open up the federal oil reserves, and take some of these record profits from big oil for a second stimulus package for Americans!

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By Anarcissie, August 6, 2008 at 6:34 am Link to this comment

Part of the recent run-up in oil prices was due to Bush’s saber-rattling.  Energy commodities traders had to contemplate a situation in which crude oil sold for $200 or $300, and the way they do that is by buying up futures and options, which raises the spot (current) price as well.  The saber-rattling seems to have been called off for the moment, maybe just because of the disturbing effects of the price rise.  That has brought about the present dip in prices.

However, there are larger long-term forces at work.  One is increasing consumption of oil in south and east Asia.  Another is the fact that the U.S. monetary system has been seriously distorted by a long-term policy of providing cheap money in the form of credit to the rich.  Much of the money in the stock market and in real estate is derived from this policy.  But the eventual consequence of spreading cheap money around is inflation.  Although the U.S. can impose low interest rates in the U.S., it can’t do the same on world financial markets; hence the value of the U.S. dollar in currency trading has fallen about 30% in the last year.  30% more dollars are required to buy internationally traded goods—such as oil.  That problem isn’t going to go away soon.  Next time there is any hitch in the oil supply, you can expect another sharp rise in prices.

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By Purple Girl, August 6, 2008 at 6:00 am Link to this comment

What effects oil prices is the movement towards alternative fuels. the more th esubject i saddressed the lower the prices will go. the oil industry played this game in the ‘80’s too.
Inflate the prices ntil you hit a nerve, then drop them to end the ‘problem’. thus the Big 3 won’t have to re tool, or end production of gas guzzlers or even through a crumble towards producting fuel efficent cars and voila- back in business, and the cycle begins again.
The Oil ‘royals’ and the Speculators were checking their boundries again!god forbid if their ‘gold’ was found to have no value in the future.
so we keep pushing for alternative, they lower the prices and problem solved- until they begin to check the boundries again.
Best ‘spoiler’ to this intentional cycle is the fact petro’s are implicated in global Warming (Duh!).So now th efocus can move away from How cheap this money maker is and toward the real areguement against it’s continued use- thus value.
Stop focusing on the price- that’s the bait, the Red herring. The real issue which will cut the legs out from under these Con Artists is it’s destructive nature. Then let’s se how low they can go!Otherwise we are just setting our kids up for the same thing to happen to them again in the future- with far more devastating Global effects. The ‘70’s was their first trial test, This time they have us all by the balls, next time they will go in for the kill, with a little help from Mother natures wrath along the way.
Big surprise for all those ‘Want to have a beer with’ Voters- while you were having your mental beer with this idiot, his Oil men accomplices were highjacking your country and your Freedoms, and auctioning off you and your kids to the highest bidder!
Now are you going to invite McCain to sit down with you for another round, while they ‘Boost’ the World economy and your grandkids futures?

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By Fahrenheit 451, August 6, 2008 at 5:20 am Link to this comment
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LOL, anybody, newly, entering this market is; crazy, stupid, or an insider.  Schizophrenia rules all financials (crazy might work) and the only people making money are the insiders.  The market should be down below 10,000 reflecting the realities of the economic reality of today.  One (a sane one) must wonder and marvel at how a market ruled by knee jerk reactions and emotional turmoil can control a global economy.  Are things really that fragile?  Hmmm……..?
By the way; check out The Asia Times online…..very interesting.

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By G.Anderson, August 6, 2008 at 2:31 am Link to this comment

Welcome to America, the Bi-Polar country.

One day, we’re up, the next day we’re down.

Luckily for the Oil companies, gas seems to be heading down, they really must be afraid that John McCain might not win the election.

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By samosamo, August 5, 2008 at 9:31 pm Link to this comment

Yee hoooo, can take that ‘for sale’ sign off my suv now. Think I’ll run her through her paces, now that it will only cost $95 to fill it up.

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