re: samosamo, July 14 at 4:45 pm #

Kind of hard on the crimminals aren’t you?

Didn’t Bush says in the past few weeks that if the Iraqi asked us to leave that we would? Well I do believe I heard that this past week, so how about it Bush, when do we get to come home, all of our people. Let the contractors get out or fend for themselves. And it’s time to cut the apron strings away from Israel too.

PatrickHenry, July 14 at 4:02 pm #

I hope w’s time is short but delusional? I do see evidence of a person with retarded thinking but w is criminal. And to be a criminal has to include intelligence of some degree, especially to get away with it. If this election comes off and w steps down hopefully someone with better concern, respect and intelligence(especially on how to use his advisors) then yeah, Iraq and Afghanistan should come to a halt.
But w has done what he was put in office 2 different and controversial if not out right fraudlent times, to do. That is do what the industrial military complex, oil companies, and the arms and munitions industries wanted him to do. And it was done with the think tank planning, plotting, and schemming of the neocons from as least slick dick nix’s presidency.
But also, hoping that if everything turns democrat will be for changes and accountability, all I will say is remember the 2006 elections. There may not have been any veto override power but those new dems in the house and senate toed the line for our corporate president and they could have denied funding. So don’t hold your breath, but hope it does happen.

Bush is delusional.  His gig in Iraq and Afghanistan is about to come to a close. 

His time is short and soon he will not be able to offer the “big umbrella” of presidential pardons, patronage and protection he offers and enjoys.  In fact, if a democratic administration gets in office and Republican seats in the House and Senate are lost, committees and investigations will begin with many new democratic congressmen and senators.

Now until Jan 20 are Americas most dangerous days.

cyrena, July 14 at 2:21 am #

Well, the thing is, our good ole USofA has been kicked out of countries where the people got tired our presence/occupation there. The phillippines come to mind right off so it is not impossible to kick our sorry asses out of a country, military bases and all, it may just take a change of government in that country or just a massive uprising of the people or as simple as a new leader being elected. Also the Saudis kicked our military out because I think it was starting to have a detrimental effect on the fundamentalist muslims which is still a cause of concern to the present house of saud being overthrown. Of course we have a presence back in the phillippines due to the scare tactic of ‘helping’ to fight the war on terror. And history has many instances where the hegemenic forces were forced out and to the betterment of that country.
I am rereading Chalmers Johnson’s 3 book trilogy and for me it helps to reenforce what I thought was said and how I interpreted it or corrected something I just read over and never understood. His references from Mike Davis’ book ‘The Late Victorian Holocausts’ which I am almost finished reading, brings this to mind that a country can tire of being occupied and through some changes or just telling the imperialist to get out, they leave. This book is really interesting and descriptive, horribly so, but also gives a very good look at the workings of the El Nino weather system which is something that should NOT be brushed off in this imperialist world, it is worth the read.

I think “BULLSH*T” has a LOT OF NERVE trying to set POLICY for the NEXT ADMINISTRATION.He needs to SHUT UP AND GO LAY DOWN.And he should face charges in a COURT of LAW for WAR CRIMES-LOOTING THE AMERICAN TREASURY-MURDER-GENOCIDE-PERJURY-EXTORTION-hey all you out there…PLEASE…FEEL FREE TO ADD ON TO THIS LIST…

I’m with ya Samosamo. It feels like a bit of a deja vu for me, because I said myself, (so many times that people where quite willing to tell me to just shut up) that the US wasn’t going to get out of Iraq EVER, under any circumstances other than the Iraqis kicking us out.

I didn’t know how they would do it, because of the very intentional destruction of what army and security forces they had, (on day one of the invasion). THAT was the absolute DUMBEST thing they could have done, besides being there in the first place. Had they NOT destroyed the Iraq security forces already in place, they wouldn’t have had this mess.

BUT…since Dick et al knew all along that we would be seen as the invaders and occupiers that we were, their first step was to completely destroy Iraq’s army and local security forces, to make sure that they didn’t have any resistance.

Guess they got fooled again. Imperial Arrogance will do it every time. It’s amazing. If it was ANY OTHER country besides the US doing this, the entire world would have been on them like White on Rice. (no pun actually intended there).

But, here’s my favorite part…

“...Negotiators expect it to include a “time horizon,” with specific goals for U.S. troop withdrawal from Baghdad and other cities and installations such as the former Saddam Hussein palace that now houses the U.S. Embassy.”

And such installations that now house the U.S. Embassy! Hot damn! There’s that billion dollars they’ll have to just kiss goodbye. Let the Iraqis use it for an orphanage, or a school, or whatever else they need it for. We’ve destroyed all of the stuff they had, in what had been for centuries and centuries, the Birthplace of Civilization.

If the US can give what has become 5.5 BILLION a year to little tiny Israel, (and that simply MUST stop) then we’ll just have to walk about from the US Capitol of the Middle East in Baghdad.

And, they better step fast too.

Meantime, Cheney still won. He finally forced those oil contracts. Maybe even THAT could change. Iraq needs to sell their oil, but they need to sell it at a fair price. The stuff Dick et al has been trying to shove down their throats for 6 years has been one of the most exploitive “Profit Sharing Arrangements” ever to be written in the history of the universe.

Looks like the Iraqi government has been paying attention to the status-of-forces agreements with other countries and been told NOT to sign one by these countries. Could this be just another bit of light shinning through the ole chink in the black armor of our illigetimate administration? If it is then it could be the rest of the world starting to gang up on the US to stop our insane government and military or slow it down.