This first lady thing must be a carryover for our royalty days.  Frankly I do not give a damn.  Seems pettiness and gossip are what makes the USA go around. American Idol all over again.

I don’t know much or anything about either but I do feel the intensity of getting into that white house from both of them and since obama has jumped in bed with aipac then what difference will it be?
Ms.mccain looks like a retired dancer of sorts and even though she is rich beyond most people’s dreams she especially looks like she would want to cash in some more, about like dick’s wife has, so the merry go round just keeps on spinning.
Obama’s wife may come on as a good first lady but just like not understanding a woman, you never do until you get married or get in the white house and then it is too late.

Cyrena wrote:
“Again, I did not write this, nor have I researched any of the particulars…” (see the 4th comment from the bottom for “in-depth evidence” and reasoning).  Cyrena, I find this kind of stuff insulting.  The claims against Mrs. McCain only scatch the surface of her (its) perfidy.  We don’t need to hint at, or sneer at these insects.  We need to Practice the behavior we bemoan the neo-cons of not practicing.
There is plenty the left should learn from the right—including knowing what a “wedge issue” is; how to meet and talk with the working poor in their churches, bars, bingo games, gas-wasting races and bowling alleys—on their turf.  I recommend the book “Deer Hunting With Jesus.”  It is loaded with info you seem to be lacking.  But go ahead.  Just try not to poke your thumb on your lapel pin.

Cyrena, I really didn’t want to light off fire crackers with you.  It’s only June.  But if you are so determined to deny your failures in being true to truth, there is nothing I can, or want, to do about it.  You know damned well that a “power whore” extends the length and width of our “choice” and it has nothing to do with sex, just professional and high class prostitution.  I really had more respect for your ideas until you began acting like the very scum you deride.  It’s not that hard to fact-check, if facts matter, and you know it.  I was simply deflated to see such unnecessary and unfounded, (not to mention “easy”) slander by you-the poster-in glaring imitation of the poisoners of public discourse.

Smarter, more modest, and more entitled to respect. After all, she earned what she has in terms of education, money, and integrity.

Double U…

WOW! I’ve got ‘desperate hero worship’ and Michelle Obama is a whore, eh?

You’re pretty sick.

Cyrena, your self-righteous excuses don’t add up to anything beyond desperate hero-worship of another prospective First Lay-D.  Your gullibility about Michelle serves to expose your racial and/or gender prejudice.  So you prejudge on the minority side.  So what?  You’re still judging on sight and manufactured sound bites.  If you think Michelle Obama is anything other than another corporate whore—one in the long parade with only Elanor Roosevelt as an exception—you’re embarrassingly naive.  Dream on…
And no, Bush can’t even pronounce his middle initial.
BTW, I never repeated unverified rumors, true or not, so don’t try to pretend your irresponsibility away with even more excuses.

You know the red-necks will tell you never to give a junkie an inch cause they’ll take a mile.  It seems this time they know what they’re talking about.

Amy Silverman at Salon is right, the real story here isn’t that Cindy McCain took drugs, it’s what transpired in the wake of her addiction by ALL involved.

“But the story I was pursuing was not so much about Cindy McCain’s unfortunate addiction. It was much more about her efforts to keep that story from coming to light, and the possible manipulation of the criminal justice system by her husband and his cohorts. The irony is that Cindy’s secret would have stayed secret if John McCain’s heavy-hitting lawyer, John Dowd (of D.C.‘s Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld; his most recent claim to fame was serving as co-counsel for fellow partner Vernon Jordan during impeachment) hadn’t heavy-handedly pulled out all the stops to protect the McCain family.

Dowd tried to get back at the man on Cindy McCain’s staff, Tom Gosinski, who had blown the whistle on her drug pilfering to the DEA. But in the course of trying to get local law enforcement officials to investigate Gosinski—Dowd and the McCains considered him an extortionist; others might call him a whistleblower—Dowd set in motion a process that would eventually bring the whole sordid story to light. When that maneuver backfired, the McCain media machine went into overdrive to spin the story.”

And also in this story at Huffington Post by Stephen Elliot:

“Worse, she was stealing the drugs from the American Voluntary Medical Team, a third world relief organization she founded. Like most ridiculously rich people, she didn’t have to go to jail for her crimes and was allowed to enter a rehab program rather than face criminal charges. The charity was shut down.

So when Cindy McCain says, “All I know is that I’ve always been proud of my country,” take it with a grain of salt. She spent at least three years stoned out of her mind. It’s impossible to know what she thought during that time. Was she really proud, or was she just hallucinating?”

>And to insult to injury she’s all over the news today attempting to denigrate Michelle Obama, now that is classless.  It just goes to show ya, sometimes those rednecks know what they’re talking about…. maybe they just know more dirty republicans than the rest of us, saw the stuff first hand…etc.  Cindy McCain is making a fool of herself today…. what a shame.

Well Double U, (does this mean you’re a “W” supporter?)

It would appear that the information on Cindy McCain is in fact legit, and I would NOT have posted it, had I not been relatively certain that it was.

I made the disclaimer because I did not have time to double check all of the details myself. However, what’s good for the goose is certainly good for the gander here Double U, and the first comment on this thread, BY YOU, included the OPINION (cheap shot that it is) that Michelle Obama is a smart-ass hypocrite.

Who’s the hypocrite here Double U? Cindy McCain is as fair game as anyone else in the dirty politics that repugs play.

How does it always get to be a ‘cheap shot’ when these criminals behaviors are exposed? We listened to weeks and weeks of smear propaganda CREATING associations between Barack Obama and his former pastor, as if they were joined at the hip, and everything that came out of Wrights mouth 6 years ago was assigned to Obama.

But when somebody calls attention to an action that a person actually did, (him or herself) like Hillary Clinton authorizing an illegal war of aggression in violation of universal law, THEN it becomes a ‘cheap shot’.

Well guess what? I didn’t tell Cindy McCain to become addicted to pain medications, though I know that it happens to the best among us. (Cindy is NOT the ‘best among us). I didn’t tell her to rob and steal from her own non-profit organization, and I have nothing to do with the $225,000.00 credit card debt that she and her husband have run up. (which is why I’m not willing to have my taxpayer dollars paying it off for them).

Now Cindy here, is really fortunate..being a beer heiress and all. Because I’ll tell you what. Any other average citizen who becomes a junkie to pain meds or anything else, and resorts to stealing and embezzlement in order to support their habit, generally winds up in jail.

So take your indignation somewhere else. Maybe you could try to have some influence over the junkie in the white house as he prepares to slaughter yet another nation of innocents.

Now Micheele is a woman worth looking Up to- She has made her own way from sheer determination and OVARIAN fortitude.
Cindy was handed everything she has on a silver platter- Nothing to see there, Nothing to admire.
I agree the wives are not fair game for political attacks, but I gotta ask -who else has noticed that Cindy appears a little Sauced at times on the campaign trail? sunglasses or blurry eyed and a little unstable on her feet. She should be able to negotiate High heels by Now.
Of Course if I was stuck campaigning with this Manchurian Candidate- I’d have to have a few shots before hand too.Hell I would have already divorced him anyway, so my point is mute.When he became, or agreed to be, the Next Puppet in Cheney’s Stage Play I would have dumped him like he was radioactive.

Outraged, you said a mouthful.

Re: Double U

I’ve attempted to fact check this, and it appears legit.  However, it is difficult to fact check things which are done “under the radar”.

As an aside, I’d do drugs too if I were legally linked to Sen. McCain.  So in this I don’t fault Cindy McCain.  She seems nice enough.  But hands down Michelle Obama appears to have grit and determination.

After reading plenty of Cyrena’s comments and acquiring a bit of respect, I am appalled by this piece of cheap neo-con-style innuendo.  Just appalled.  How dare you perpetuate rumors you’ve not checked?  This is precisely the cheap underhanded tactics we’ve come to expect from brain-dead Limp balls.  It’s disgraceful.  I had no idea integrity and dignity meant so little to you.

The private lives of the candidates’ wives have no bearing on the election or on our government.  It is really no one’s business.  Who would want to go through what they go through?  Few people could endure it.

I received this little ‘write-up’ (or some would call it gossip) via the standard e-mail chain that puts energy to these pieces of information. I have NOT attempted to research/verify any of it, though it certainly ‘reads’ far more believably than the stories that were circulating about Barack being a Muslim and attending a madressa in Indonesia when he was a toddler.

That said, ya’ll can do your own research, if you’re interested.
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~ Many pundits got their ire up when Michelle Obama made her comment about being proud of America for the first time in her adult life. They started the attacks. We also saw Obama’s church issues. However, we have not heard about Cindy Lou McCain:

In 1989, Cindy McCain became addicted to opiod painkillers such as Percocet and Vicodin, which she initially took to alleviate pain following two spinal surgeries for ruptured discs and to ease emotional stress during the Keating Five scandal, which involved her as a bookkeeper who had difficulty finding receipts. [Her degrees are in education, not bookkeepering, so research the Keating Five scandal.]  The addiction progressed to where she resorted to stealing drugs from her own non-profit, American
Voluntary Medical Team. During 1992, Tom Gosinski, the director of government and international affairs for AVMT, discovered her drug theft. Subsequently in 1992, her parents staged an intervention to force her to get help. She told her husband about her problem, attended a drug treatment facility, began outpatient sessions, and ended her three years of active addiction. [Most drug counselors will tell you that once an addict, always an addict.]
In January 1993, Cindy McCain terminated Gosinski’s employment on grounds of budgetary reasons. In spring 1993, Gosinski tipped off the Drug Enforcement
Administration to investigate Cindy McCain’s drug theft, and a federal investigation ensued. McCain’s defense team secured an agreement with the US Attorney’s office that limited her punishment to financial restitution and enrollment in a diversion
program without any public disclosure. [This means she’s a convicted criminal].
Here’s the question: Do you want a First Lady who is a lawyer that is now proud of her country, or a drug-addicted criminal?~
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Again, I did not write this, nor have I researched any of the particulars. I AM aware of the Keating Five Scandal that Senator McCain was involved in. And yes, if Mrs. McCain cut a deal with the Feds, she would in fact still be a convicted criminal.

Now, whether this information is 100% correct or not, the point is that I received it via e-mail. Based on that, it means the story is out there floating around.

And yes, it does sound believable.

Look, I’m a Democrat and have NO problem with Michelle Obama.  But I’m an admirer of Cindy McCain.  This is a woman who went to Bangla Desh and brought home a dying infant with all kinds of physical problems and talked her husband into adopting her—and then had to suffer through the Bush thugs push-polling in South Carolina, twisted it all around to appeal to redneck racism and religious intolerance. As father to an adopted child I have a soft spot for people who make this decision.  It’s not an easy one, but it sure is a rewarding one!  Taking on a “special needs” child as Cindy McCain and her husband did takes a whole other level of commitment, one which was beyond us.

I think bashing Cindy McCain is as despicable as bashing Michelle Obama.  (Ain’t it great—Fox/Pravda’s attempt to smear her with the knuckle tap that is NOW her signature gesture!)

I could never make my mind up on Ginger of Maryanne.

While Michelle Obama certainly out-strips Cindy McCain as far as substance goes, we shouldn’t let our fantasies fun away with us.  They are both married to corporate inventions.  They are both either true cynics or they are so thoroughly bought and sold that they don’t know the difference, and this is where Cindy M. probably has it over Michelle O; Cindy is less of a smart-ass hypocrite.