By Lee, May 27 at 10:38 am #
ISRAEL, CARTER, THREAT ...

“Furthermore, Jimmy Carter is an idiot. He was a lousy President and he should keep his Pro-Islamic Anti-Israel mouth shout, and go back to growing peanuts.
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I expected the hungry Zionist vultures to dive down at their favorite food, dead carrion! They only come in almost hysteric way when they find dead carrion related to Israel.

The matter of Israel’s nuclear arsenal is physically and metaphorically a heap of dead carrion that’s been spreading terrible smell since the sixties. Formal evidence leaked out in 1986 by the Israeli nuclear technician Mordechai Vanunu, who was imprisoned for a long time after his revelation.

As to Jimmy Carter’s mentioning this in conjunction with his talk about the wrong in focusing on Iran while ignoring Israel, he was only stating a matter of fact to show the hypocrisy of his own country and others about the issue of nuclear Iran.

Now, all decent people in the world know that Jimmy Carter was the best and most decent president the United States had in its recent history. He was genuinely a peace-loving individual who wanted the whole world to live in peace. That’s why he worked tirelessly to bring to Israel its only real period of peace by sponsoring the Egyptian-Israeli peace deal in 1977-1978. A situation that resulted in taking Egypt, the most powerful and populated Arab country, out of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Yet, since he published his book, “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid” last year, he has been the target of venomous Zionist hate and bigotry campaign. Though this is so disturbing and ugly, it has some good aspects to it, as it shows the world how ungrateful fanatic Zionists can be. So, they are now biting the hand that fed them their first taste of peace in their short history.

Read the words of Lee which I quoted at the top of this post, and you will see what I mean!

The information is out there if you were only to look.

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/en

Instead of parroting your jewist supremacist propaganda, back it up.

All those jews who feel threatened by the mean, bad islamofacists should go back to the real jewist homeland which existed before Israel where the can live in peace and harmony forever and ever.  Maybe the zionists in this nation can move there too.

  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240710/posts

Whose state secrets?  Tell us something not already confirmed by Vannunu, with pictures!

Israel cannot beat Iran w/o nukes.  Look at the terrain.  The fallout would drift into Russia and serve to galvanize the world against the little shit nation Israel more than it already is.

RE:  By Ooops!, May 27 at 12:43 pm #

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With the comments put forth by “oopers” , no wonder little tiny Israel has to worry about the nuts and wackos out there. They sure are in abundance on this site !

Iran has never threatened to attack Israel but Israel has threatened to attack Iran many times.

Iran has not attacked a neighboring country for hundreds of years but Israel has repeatedly attacked its neigbors so as to “defend” itself.

Israel’s own crimes are bad enough, but the crimes their powerful US lobby has gotten America to commit on their behalf are many times worse.

This evil entity and its international backers are the chief threat to world peace today.

Let us begin to note that President Carter is not the first U. S. President who played fast and loose with ‘state secrets’. In 1919 President Wilson furiously and publicly decried and rejected Italy’s territorial claims in the Mediterranean which Italy had been secretly promised by the “Treaty of London”. Wilson’s intransigence almost wrecked the “Paris Peace Conference” because the Italians threatened to walk out and did so transiently. It is of course also true that almost every diplomat already knew and that Leon Trotsky, the Soviet foreign commissar, had already published the full text of the London treaty.
Let us also remember that President Truman was not aware that Stalin knew that we had already exploded an atomic bomb at Los Alamos and that the Soviets were working on one of their own when he told Stalin in Potsdam that we, the U.S.A., now possessed a terrible weapon of mass destruction that we had unleashed on Japan. For four years Truman labored under the mistaken and dangerous delusion that he had a huge trump card in hand against Stalin, the bomb, because Truman’s advisers had told him that the Soviets would not be able to have one of their own in many years, if ever. Stalin got his in 1949 which engendered gigantic headaches for Harry and strengthened Senator Joseph McCarty’s communist witch hunt
I therefore applaud President Carter for having rent the Israeli secrecy about its nuclear arsenal. That secrecy is against the interest of our own country because it impedes progress on nuclear non-proliferation (India, Pakistan, North Korea, Iran, and who knows which state is secretly trying today; the Saudis?) and the eventual reduction of nuclear weapons in the world.
It is interesting to note that all commentators, I heard it first from Wolf Blitzer a.k.a. ‘The Pits’, assumed immediately that Carter had obtained his information from the CIA when he was in the White House. Guesses, guesses, guesses as always. Who knows, maybe Olmert had informed him last week and had deliberately exaggerated the number of Israeli bombs to scare the bejabbers out of Ahmadinejad.

Howard, please stop this claim of how “Israel has left Gaza” when we ALL know that Gazans are 100% controlled by Israel, from their food, to their medical, to their water, to their electricity, and that it is one open-air prison where not a single Gazan has even the least control over their own ability to do ANYTHING!

So stop saying this stupid stuff! Israel hasn’t ‘left’ anywhere. And there isn’t a single solitary Arab in Israel who has full citizen rights! NOBODY other than Jews have those ‘rights’ in Israel. So stop with all of this propaganda!

This last part doesn’t even make sense. You claim that these ARABS overwhelmingly wish not to move to GAza or Syria or Egypt! Because…JEWS have been driven out of those countries!

Well Howard, we can understand why Arabs might not want to live in Gaza (for sure) or Egypt or Syria, (the US places for all of the torture renditions that we perform on Arabs and other Muslims) but why would it be because JEWS have been driven out of those countries? The ARABS don’t want to move to those places because the JEWS have been driven out?

Why the hell should they care about THAT? I think you gave yourself away again Howard.

Meantime, Israel is a threat to the WORLD, but particularly the Middle East, because they’re the only one with these dangerous nukes, and neurotic enough to use them!

Beacon of light my ass!

Nonsense that Israel is a threat !  What aggreassion or expansionism ? They left Gaza completely and rockets still arrive daily. Daily, even today.  What country would put up with them ?  Rockets and missles from Mexico or Canada into the U.S. ?  Give us all a break, man.

What supremist ideology ? Arabs living as ciizens in Israel vote, get jobs, hold political offices, are nurses and teaches, and overwhelmingly wish not to move to Gaza or Syria or Egypt !  Jews in those countries have been driven out. Out.

Israel is not a danger to the planet.  They are a beacon of light to the nations of the world.

Last report, world had that Israel has 156 nukes or more not 150 or more.Who cares,so far you can write books with no redeeming values and make monies.Kiss the babies and autograph and make a best seller list on New York times book revue.

What the hey.  Israel does’t threaten to use their nukes, that is why they do not adverise ‘em. Iran threatens continually to obliterate Israel all the time.  And means it.  Iran is not even a neighbor and Israel does not and never has bothered Iran.  but Iran needs a boogyman to distract their people.

But Israel has reason to believe nuts and wackos who want to take over the world. Has reason to be a litle parnoid.

So I hope the figure is wrong and Israel not only has more nukes than Pope Carter infers, but also has unanounced other weapons.  More power to them.

Isreal has proven it has one of the best military training & capablities- far superior to any other M.E. country.They do not need our help nor our interference- and Vise Versa!
I have no fear of th eIsrealicititzens nor the Other M.E. citizens- I do have great concern about their gov’t and their undue influence in our foreign and Domestic policy.
What is most disturbing is those who Proclaim their ‘undying’ loyality’ to Isreal (the Evangelists) and then Preach how the ‘return of isreal’ is the first domino needed to bring on ‘Armegeddon’- How can any Jewish person (Liebermann) stand behind and support such vile sociopaths as Hagee & Parsley- a traitor to his own people. Lest he ignore th eFACt that in these crazed eye’s ALL must CONVERT to theri form of ‘Christianity’ otherwise they too will suffer the ‘Wrath’ (apparently their Self fulfilling prophecy, enable should Mac or Hillary be handed the ‘Crown’. Pre Emptively “obliterating Iran’ is the second domino, leading to Russia& chinas Retaliation, Thus leading to WW3. Both Mac and Hillary Pose a Grave national Security Threat, as do those domestic Terrorist Cloaked in ‘Religious’ fervor!

Actually the Israelis sold Iran their old weapons (TOW I) and the U.S. replaced them with a newer TOW II.

Wrong.  Iran gave up the hostages because Reagan sold them arms and used the proceeds to arm the contras in Nicaraugua.  Remember the Iran-Contra scandal?

Stephen,

It really didn’t happen that way, so maybe you should do some historical study on the hostages, (and who took them, and why - find out all about the Shah, and who HE was working for as well) and how Regan worked out that ‘arrangement’ to make Carter look weak, and lose the election.

The reality is that Carter has more guts then any of your gun totin’ cowboys could ever dream of, and more integrity in his little toe than you could ever imagine.

Meantime, you’re right. Those Iranian STUDENTS took those hostages and held them for OVER a year, and eventually let them go. They didn’t have to leave their own nation to do it either, and so they didn’t go out a ‘capture’ a few thousand folks and lock them up in cages on Gitmo, and proceed to torture them for 6 plus years.

Do we call that strong?

Sorry I can’t feel the same respect for the ‘strength’ of Regan and all of his tricks. You ARE familiar with the Iran-Contra double deal, are you not?

When you’re done there,

All I can say is a big “THANK YOU” to Mr. Carter for having the testicular fortitude to start to bring to light a subject that everyone else has been afraid to discuss since 1948….

He is now officially, also, a failure AFTER being president as well.

Iran understood how weak and foolish the far left philosophy was that guided Carter, the took 50 US hostages and held them for over a year, knowing Carter was too weak to spank them.  When Reagan came to office Iran coughed them up because they knew Reagan would make them pay.

It’s that simple, that’s the way the middle east works.  If they think you will create a terrible body count, they respect you.  IF they think you are weak, they will disrespect you.  Carter was weak, they disrespected him.  Carter is still weak, now they use him.