Wow WV is a world within it self (they obvious breed like it too).Went WW raftign down the Gulley- the river was scary- but the locals were terrifiying (family tree like stick??)I’m Scotch Irish- so I try to refrain from Using the Term Hillbilly- But them there are real Life Backward ass hillbilly cousins to my ethnic background. I worried about the Copperhead- I feared the Banjo’s.
Teh aea’s I saw look right out of a Horror or Depression period Movie. Wow someone needs to send some Relief Workers down there (along with some teachers, real jobs, sex education instructors, Hygiene Products and explanations. Ain’t mean if it’s true) We need to at least bring them up into the last century!Do they even have a TV to hear Hillary? Can they Read a newspaper? I think my culture left some of it’s descendants to fend for themselves for far too long with far too few resource.

dihey:

Thank you for nailing the problem perfectly.  Why SHOULD the VOTERS in Florida and Michigan be punished for the “sins” of their Party?  What kind of democracy is THAT?  This is why I cannot understand those here (mostly Obama supporters, of course) who continue to believe that it’s just “too bad” on Florida and Michigan.

Those voters have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to vote, even in a primary.  How can the rules of a particular political party override the Constitution?

I agree: if Florida and Michigan are not allowed a re-vote, then “the 2008 nomination will go into history as one gigantic farce by a most undemocratic party that deserves to disappear into its dustbin. Its nominee will be tainted forever as the candidate of only 48 states.”

Peace.

The following is still the fundamental problem for the Democratic Party. No voting results of past and remaining primaries will wash that away. The party was perhaps obliged to punish-by the rules-the bosses of the Michigan and Florida parties. However, it arrogantly overlooked the simple fact that it thereby also punished the voters of these states who were powerless to stop their party’s bosses. The DNC never offered these voters an opportunity to have a really democratic say at the Convention. That must have been especially galling for those Floridian Democratic activists who fought their hearts out in 2000 to have all the votes counted in Florida. They were then screwed by the Supreme Court and by Gore/Lieberman who collapsed into heaps of jelly. Now they are screwed by the DNC. The 2008 nomination will go into history as one gigantic farce by a most undemocratic party that deserves to disappear into its dustbin. Its nominee will be tainted forever as the candidate of only 48 states.

Yes Obama did stop in WV but, it was not like he stopped in other states.  Obama didn’t even advertise on TV like it has been reported he has in other states. I am not a big TV fan but,my TV is on always for noise so if the words Obama or Hillary come up I usually see what is going on. 
Obama visited the capital and he visited Huntington (the Huntington visit was for Seniors only) If there was more visits they were very low key. I kept trying to find a event that I could travel to. The Charleston one was not available to me because of a Dr. Appt but usually when a candidate is in the state it is known all over the state with Obama it wasn’t.
I live near Parkersburg WV, this is the first time since I have been registered to vote that a Presidential Candidate has skipped visiting Parkersburg.  Obama’s visit to WV felt like a visit to your Aunt’s House that you rush in say hi and then make some excuse to leave before she starts asking the tough questions about your life.
As for reading that book and learning something..I am always open to reading and learning something *S*.

The title here, specifically the word ‘ignores’ is annoying. One could presume that Obama never even bothered to appear in W.VA, or to address the constituency there at all, and that obviously is NOT the case.

He was there, and he acknowledged that Hillary was expected to win there, and so what exactly is wrong with that? That he didn’t hang around until tomorrow? So what?

I mean, isn’t that what Hillary has done with MOST of these United States? Unless they were ‘big’ states, (in her strategy)or likely to be ‘wins’ for her regardless, (Arkansas comes to mind) didn’t she pretty much IGNORE them all along? That’s what my memory tells me.

And, the results point to the fact that for the most part, (albeit with some exceptions like California and New York) Hillary won states that are generally ‘red’, conservative, and likely to go republican in the general election anyway. AZ, NV,OK and NM (though just barely) come to mind. Pretty much the same can be said of W.VA.

That isn’t to suggest that the people of WVA are ‘dumb’ as much as it is to say that historically speaking, it tends to run more along the conservative/republican vein. And, as I’ve mentioned multiple times before, HRC is a republican as far as I’m concerned. At least she has been since she entered the Senate, and has always been in with the neo-libs anyway. At the end of the day, there isn’t a whole bunch of difference between the neo-libs and the neo-cons.

AND…we need to change that ‘wording’ as well..the ‘neo’ in this case needs to be retired to reflect what they really are. A BAD ERA for US politics.

It’s time for the ‘new’ liberals and the ‘new’ conservatives to retire from the political scene entirely. They aren’t ‘new’. They’re destructive.

Up until right before the WV Primary I was on the fence over who to vote for.  When I found out that Obama was basically going to ignore WV and move onto other states it told me that he was saying WV didn’t matter and he didn’t think our vote counted.
Is it a coincidence that all of a sudden WV is again being stereotyped uneducated hillbillies in the news? All you see everywhere is that the statistics that how many people in WV have no college education or make less than 50,000 a year.  Is it taken into account that our economy in WV is not like the economy in the bigger cities our houses are not all going for $500,000 and up (yes they are rising in prices but a common house in a normal WV city like where I live is $100,000 to $200,000 yes there are more expensive houses but the regular family home goes for between these prices.  I am not saying our economy is not as bad as every other state because our gas prices are just as high, our food prices are rising like everyone in the US, and our people in WV are losing their homes like the rest of the country but, that doesn’t mean that our low pay rate makes us less worthy of a presidential candidate visiting our state and giving our people the right to hear him first hand. Bill Clinton was in WV 2 months ago and Hilary has been campaigning in WV ever since the NC/IN primary. 
Obama visited WV one day before the primary on Monday…and usually Presidential Candidates visit Parkersburg WV but Obama did not think Parkersburg mattered at all.
This is the first time I can remember that WV has had a voice in a Presidential Primary and yet Obama has basically said our voices don’t matter by not even showing WV any respect at all hardly.  Perhaps he thinks we in WV like Pennsylvania are bitter and hang to tightly to our religion.  WV is a bible belt but it doesn’t make us bad people and not all of us hang tightly to our religion some of us even believe in politics but, I for one no longer believe in Obama.

Thought you might find this of interest:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.html?_r=1&sq=Luttwak&st=nyt&oref=slogin&scp=1&pagewanted=print

Peace.

He is a far better candidate than McCain, in every department.

The Republicans have lost their way.

“that the presumptive nominee can lose”...

Lose what? Obama has 170+ more delegates. This only effects the popular vote tallies, which will be made up later. Quit stroking Hillary’s campaign. It’s devoid of purpose. She’s Ron Paul.