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Showing Hillary the Door

Posted on May 8, 2008

The next cover of Time magazine.

Everyone from Tim Russert to Time magazine seems to have decided that there’s absolutely no way Hillary Clinton can get the nomination. What happened? Sure, her chances of winning enough pledged delegates are nearly impossible, but wasn’t that true after Pennsylvania? Wasn’t it true before Pennsylvania?

What’s with the sudden collective reality check from the media?

Was losing North Carolina really that definitive? Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that Hillary Clinton had won that state by as much as she won Indiana. Barack Obama would still have more pledged delegates and more of the popular vote.

Of course she would have had a more compelling argument with the superdelegates, but let’s face facts: They never really wanted to take it away from a money-raising machine like Barack Obama, with his millions of new voters (and donors). These are Party people, after all.

They said Hillary needed to win North Carolina to change the game. She lost it, and now everyone is telling her she’s not allowed to play anymore.

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By cyrena, May 10, 2008 at 2:32 am Link to this comment

Nobody said anything about Obama bringing ‘heaven’ to the White House Sue. Most of us don’t live there, so why would we care?

Nope, Obama can only help us put out the fire that is the HELL that the rest of us are living in.

And, that ain’t gonna happen with anybody OTHER than him, (and his choices for an administration).

So, I guess your life is gonna have to improve even though you’ve been dreaming of keeping it all the same hell.

What can I say? Try to live with it as best you can.

This part of the program is over Sue. You can still vote in November, and if you’re still infatuated with Hillary, then just vote for her ideological twin, McSame.

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By cyrena, May 10, 2008 at 12:13 am Link to this comment

Humm, this reminds me of when I lived (and drank) in Chicago. We generally relied on White Castle, immediately AFTER the last drink, and BEFORE passing out. Somebody told me it was the grease that ‘helped’.

So, I guess the bacon and eggs would work even better, if it doesn’t give one a heart attack first.

I could only live there for 2 years though. Just couldn’t keep up. I’d have never survived my 30th birthday otherwise.

The California wine is better for lightweights like me.

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By cyrena, May 9, 2008 at 2:08 pm Link to this comment

Now here’s some irony. Of the 2 remaining democrats, Obama is actually the more centrist. (I’d like to see a bit more liberalism from him, but maybe that’s coming).

Bill Clinton was the last remaining Centrist. His wife is far to the right of that. I’ve said it before. HRC would be the better REPUBLICAN candidate. She’d still lose though.

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By MICMAE, May 9, 2008 at 12:26 pm Link to this comment
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Sorry Ender, I got out of both parties because only the extreme left & right of those parties rule.  I consider myself socially liberal but I want to keep the corporations here, with oversight, & not running to take all the jobs overseas.  The majority of Americans I know want to solve problems but understand it is going to take working with both sides to accomplish that

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By Robert Campbell, May 9, 2008 at 8:45 am Link to this comment
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And the Republican is a centrist?  That’s a laugh.  He used to be a centrist, but threw that away to pander to the exteme right.  Senator Obama was named the Senate’s most liberal member for 2007.  Until that time he was ranked #16 or #17 for his first years in the Senate. 

Sen. Obama would like to see the tax cuts of 2001 & 2003 redistributed from the top income catagories to the middle incomers.  That’s centrist.  McBush would make the ‘01 & ‘03 tax cuts permanent for the wealthiest Americans and ignore the middle class.  That’s radical right wing, it accellerates our record debt and is fiscall irrsponsible going forward.  That’s not just radical right politics, it’s jusy plain wrong.

Obama would provide access to healthcare coverage to everyone through private for-profit insureres.  That’s centrist.  The radical position (Dennis Kucinich’s & mine) would have a tax-based single payer universal plan.  McBush continues the Bush view of contempt of middle and lower income earners by thinking that everything is just fine.  He apparently accepts the GOP position that not everyone is entitled to healthcare.  Some folks are simply more deserving than others and that in America you must have money to have good health.  That may not be a radical position, but it surely isn’t centrist.

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By ender, May 9, 2008 at 8:13 am Link to this comment

Sorry there MIC!  A great many of us Americans are sick unto death of The Pseudo Moral Majority, UnCompassionate Conservatism, and Corporate Rule.

The Dems best chance is to field a true progressive.

No More McSame, No More McClinton.  The neocons and the Dems who pretend not to be them have screwed this nation long enough.

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By Sue Cook, May 9, 2008 at 7:10 am Link to this comment

Like I said, let the people vote!

There’s 6 contests left, about 3-weeks left.

Why not continue?

You are more than likely right that it probably won’t change much, but then again you never know.

People voting in these later contests won’t see this again for a very long time if ever.

Let them have their say. It won’t hurt a thing.

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By Sue Cook, May 9, 2008 at 7:03 am Link to this comment

How would you feel as a voter in any of the upcoming primaries that you came this close to voting and having it count a presidential noniminee, and then have it halted pre-maturely because of narrow-minded people like you with the wish to just “end this”.

By the way, if you think Obama is going to bring “heaven” to the White House by simply promising “hope” and “unity”, than I suggest that you “get real”.

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By Ellis, May 9, 2008 at 6:14 am Link to this comment
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So Obama is too liberal and therefore MICMAE will vote Republican. That dreaded ” L ” word…..Liberal = liberty, human autonomy and free will. Just the basic human rights we all are entitled to. Yeah, vote against that. Vote for fascism, dictatorship and repression of human rights….yeah that makes sense. Sadly Amerikans are a brainwashed society.

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By Aegrus, May 9, 2008 at 6:08 am Link to this comment

Depends on the type of alcohol you’ve been consuming. Since the Clintonistas were drinking spiked Kool-Aide, I think they’ll wake up with some eggs and bacon. };>

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By Charles, May 8, 2008 at 9:26 pm Link to this comment
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Um - er - are you by any chance talking about the voters who elected G.W. Bush twice?

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By cyrena, May 8, 2008 at 5:47 pm Link to this comment

“...Ugh, something is coming up!”

Yep Aegrus, you just hit it on the spot. The ‘something coming up’ is even worse than the drive home.

That hangover ALWAYS turns out not be worth the buzz. Matter of fact, not even worth the highpoint of the ‘feel good’.

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By cyrena, May 8, 2008 at 5:41 pm Link to this comment

Well said Purple Girl. And, I approve your message. smile

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By Aegrus, May 8, 2008 at 3:39 pm Link to this comment

Sue, I’m not going to say the DNC should call the campaign over early, but there really hasn’t been any change in overall approval either way for months. Yeah, both senators are close in their earnings, but if each state goes out and Clinton continues to win the states she’s favored in and Obama wins the states he’s favored in and they each split the vote in swing states like Indiana from here, out. What’s the point? Obama will still have the popular vote, most states won and most pledged delegates.

I mean, Ron Paul and Huckabee are still running with McCain, but everyone realizes McCain is going to be the nominee. It’s time we start treating Obama that way because it is extremely doubtful Hillary will get the nomination.

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By samosamo, May 8, 2008 at 2:44 pm Link to this comment

Not so fast! If anyone is capable of pulling victory from the jaws of defeat I would think hillbilly hillary and her bozo ex-prez hubby will do it. I would think that right now they are either paying kkkrove a retainer for his expert advice or they are scraping up enough money to go to the supreme court to have them wave their magic wands to give hillbilly hillary the award. Blue dogs ain’t on the people’s side.

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By SMS67, May 8, 2008 at 1:49 pm Link to this comment
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So let’s see what Clinton is claiming again—that “Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

Obama’s support among whites is actually increasing compared to Ohio, Mississippi and Pennsylvania. She lied about that.

Obama’s support among “hard working Americans”, which is code for poorer Americans, has also increased over those in previous contests, save for Mississippi, where the under-$50K vote was overwhelmingly black.

Obama’s numbers among college grads is static to increasing. We don’t have exit poll breakdowns for education by race, and we can assume North Carolina’s huge numbers with “no college” are due to the large African American percentages in the state. But what about Indiana, a state that is whiter (83.9%) than Pennsylvania (82.1%), Ohio (82.9%) and Texas (48.3%)? Despite the demographic disadvantage, Obama actually increased his support among voters with no college degrees.
So how can Clinton be so wrong? Because she’s citing an AP-Yahoo News poll from back on May 3rd. Rather than cite actual voter data, she is basing her claims on an old poll taken before the Indiana and North Carolina primaries.

Yup. That’s what Hillary Clinton has been reduced to. Ignoring actual votes and cherry picking polls.

Which really, shouldn’t surprise anyone. She’s already ignored and belittled every state and voter demographic that doesn’t support her. So it only follows that since in her world, the only things that are important are things that support her, she’d ignore election results in favor of the one (outdated) poll that confirms her manufactured reality.

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By DennisD, May 8, 2008 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment
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With enough money to buy the Presidency and the insider connections to steal it - I wouldn’t rule Hilarious out of anything yet.

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By Ellis, May 8, 2008 at 12:37 pm Link to this comment
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It’s time for Hillary to drop out and let Obama concentrate on beating McCain. I can’t wait for a televised debate between Obama and McCain which will prove McCain to be a clueless idiot just like Bush !! The only way Obama could lose the election is if the voters turn out to be clueless idiots too !!

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By MICMAE, May 8, 2008 at 12:15 pm Link to this comment
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As an independent, I am sorry the Democrats are so bent on putting such a Liberal up for election.  I had hoped to vote for a more centrist canidate but I guess to do so, I will now be forced to vote Republican!

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By Purple Girl, May 8, 2008 at 12:05 pm Link to this comment

She and her DLC Neo Cons need to be exorcised from OUR Party! they are nothing more then Neo Cons Camoflagued in Blue. Get you own damn party,We will NOT let you do to US what your counterparts dressed in Red did to the Republican party.GET Out you Corp whores with delusions of Granduer and ‘Rapture’ You have raped & Pillage this country for far too long- Get Out Get out Get Out! ‘Reagan Democrats’ my ass, another BS term like ‘Moral Majority’- Oxymorons! Real Republicans should be kicking the sh*t out of the pandering McCain too. Either one of these covert operatives will Screw US again!

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By rage, May 8, 2008 at 11:30 am Link to this comment
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I know what it’s like to host a house party and have some straggler sit around determined to get on my nerves until dawn. I usually just have to come out in the housecoat and fuzzy mules with the vaccuum cleaner, and announce that when I’m done straightening up, my man and I will be needing that space the loiterer is occupying to have sex on the sofa. I’m usually polite enough to hold the front door open for this type, only because slamming it hard behind the bothersome nitwit discourages this silliness at my next house gig.

My point is this: Hillary has loitered uselessly long enough, and to no avail. It’s time for Howard Dean to put on the housecoat and get Hillary’s obnoxious, divisive behind off the DNC sofa.

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By Dusty, May 8, 2008 at 11:26 am Link to this comment
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Sue Cook. This campaign is just like Iraq. Everyone knows it’s over but won’t admit defeat. Clinton was a descent candidate outside of the lies and fear mongering that she’s obtained as tools of the trade. Unfortunately, those days are OVER! Take a deep breathe of Hope and Unity!

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By Sue Cook, May 8, 2008 at 10:05 am Link to this comment

Let the rest of the people vote.
There is less than one month left of primaries.
We won’t see this again for a very long time if ever.

The democratic party has nothing to lose by doing so.

Obama has nothing to lose except the election itself if he screws up, and Hillary has arguments too still on her side regarding his electability with key core bases that she retains and that he’ll have a hard time winning in November without them.

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By Aegrus, May 8, 2008 at 5:57 am Link to this comment

Well, she was given a long leash because of her name and her experience with all the super delegates. Everyone of her supporters kept moving the goal post. Kind of like going out to a bar, getting a little buzzed and excited, then ordering another drink… not so bad! and another… woo I feel good now! Until you start to realize you have to drive all the way home. Then these delegates said, just one more…. Shouldn’t have done that… Maybe I’ll be okay if I have just a small one… Ugh, something is coming up!

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