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Posted on May 5, 2008
Clinton in NC
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On the trail: Sen. Hillary Clinton speaks Monday at Pitt Community College in Greenville, N.C.

Monday found Democratic presidential contenders Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama working furiously to draw distinctions between their stances on key issues like rising gas prices and America’s strained relations with Iran—and, of course, to take shots at their opponent’s positions in the remaining hours before Tuesday’s Indiana and North Carolina primaries.

The New York Times:
The two candidates appeared on the major broadcast and cable morning shows, where much of the discussion focused on Mrs. Clinton’s proposal to suspend the 18-cents-a-gallon federal tax on gasoline for the summer travel season, with the lost revenue to be made up through a new tax on oil companies.

She defended it as a relatively small but meaningful gesture to hard-pressed families and truckers and said that Mr. Obama’s opposition “stuns” her.

“I think a lot of people don’t understand my plan,” she said on CBS’s “The Early Show.”

“I want the oil companies to pay that $8 billion this summer instead of having the money come out of the pockets of consumers and drivers.”

Mr. Obama has called the proposal, which followed a similar plan by Senator John McCain of Arizona, the presumed Republican presidential nominee, a gimmick designed to pander to lower-income voters.

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By cyrena, May 6, 2008 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment

Well, that makes sense then. I knew they weren’t in the LA area any longer. Run out long before the Coup of 2000. If they survived, so be it. They still look like alterboys and girls compared to the fascists running the country (into hell).

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By cyrena, May 6, 2008 at 7:48 pm Link to this comment

Thank YOU patricia..You’ve said it all, and it’s all TRUE!!

I am an Obama Supporter, -Women for Obama- and I approve YOUR message!! smile

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By PatrickHenry, May 6, 2008 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

I want domestic Bio-diesel readily available in mass quantities in two years.  No bid contract, cost plus.

Truckers would be responsible for modifing their rigs at their own cost, tax deductable.

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By patricia, May 6, 2008 at 3:27 am Link to this comment
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I think we all understood the republican strategy on this. Obama really has nothing to hide-and whatever was dug out around him has been whipped to death and is getting old of course, but if it were to come out in the general election-he is going to say the same thing as he has been when defending his campaign as well as himself.  The idea was to paint a bad picture of him over and over to the public to get him to dropout, thus painting the way for Hilary Clinton. She is such an easy target that we would lose the Dem. election in a heart beat. There are court cases stacked up against her and her husband combined that it makes the middle east conflict look like high school basket ball team trying to score some winning points. The media is not even talking about it because Obama is still in the game-and did not think he would be the front runner-so they are really concentrating more so on his “race” to draw out more doubt from the public. But if the media can’t do that due to the fact that we can see past the BS- that there was no need to go after Hilary. If Hilary was the front runner-you better believe the Rep. Party would have a field day. The Peter Paul-vs. H. Clinton controversy-a string of un-explained deaths back in the 90’s-the money scheme Hilary had going with Water Gate that put people out of there homes-yes- foreclosed-and she had a lot to do with it and the irony is that she wants to help the people who are losing their homes today stay in them. The thing about the Clintons that separate her core base of women over the age of 60 from the younger and the educated who actually research her is that her core base supporters mirror her own age who cannot understand that the 90’s are over-and she keeps bringing the “the way we did it in the 90’s” phrase -her mind is so dead set on how things used to be that she fails to realize that there has been technology and new developing communications that help get the word around about her and her husbands business for ex. the (U-Tube.) I don’t think Hilary knows that there is such a website that speaks ill of her. She is old school that she needs bring in big donors to fund her campaign, not realizing before it was too late that she could have started a grass-root on the internet to get her own voter supporters involved. The older generation -the ones who really don’t want to bother with websites such as U-tube would just rather relate to Hilary as someone they knew in the white house- and trust her to do the job. She’s safer in their eyes- research is done in their book.  As for the younger generation and the educated meaning those who are yes- (black, white, Latino, young and old) who knows how to use technology and other communications to research their own candidate can see through smoking mirrors-who knows Hilary’s game. They do not believe she can relate to them because she is out of touch with the youth and she patronizes and insults the educated who will not stand to be played as chess pawns. Obama will win the presidency, Hilary will not and the Rep. knows this is there only plan to keep their position in the white house. Obama has a calling to us-as Americans-as a nation. Hilary has a calling to herself and some promise she made to her father long ago-not to us. Never us. So this is what I say-out with the Old, and In with the new-and now!!! Don’t feed into the republican plan-not like Hilary, who can’t figure out that her situation is ironic-she plays us-the Republicans play her- or should I say -using her. You have a choice.

I am a Obama Supporter: and I approve this message- God Bless

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By Vote Hillary, May 6, 2008 at 3:14 am Link to this comment
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Obama may be one of the people in favor of raising the gas tax by anther forty cents per gallon. With Obama it is more of what he is not saying to look out for. He is likely against the holiday because he wants to raise the tax. Mr. Blank Screen leaves the voter to insert what they want only to be disappointed later when he really does what he wants. Is this new politics?

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By jackpine savage, May 5, 2008 at 8:24 pm Link to this comment

Once again I’m denied my choice.

Once around the stump, then twice across the ceiling,
now eight times over Ms November’s out for me.
Believe me when I tell you she’s all about destruction.
It’s just about enough to make a grown man cry.

Good God Almighty we was panning for gold
down at the banks of mighty Colorado,
when all of a sudden came an awful sound;
ten thousand buffalo were running us down.

Once again I’m denied my joy.
Sieves and peas, oh Lord, oh Lord!

Thunder and lightning at a feverish pitch.
Must be the workings of the Old West Witch.
I crossed her once when I was just a youth.
Been scared stiff ever since, to tell you the truth.

Once again I’m denied my joy.
Sieves and peas, oh Lord, oh Lord!

She went once around the stump, then twice across the ceiling,
now eight times over Ms November’s out for me.
Believe me when I tell you she’s all about the voodoo.
and all the things I’m losing when I pay no mind.

Get off on the good foot and start another day.
Maybe head for Hazel, California.
Oh, but sooner or later she’ll go to town
sure as the Earth runs around and around.

Again I’m denied my joy.
Sieves and peas, oh Lord!

At the side of the road
a bundle of twine,
and on it I found a note.
It read, “You’ll be running until the end of time.”

She went once around the stump, then twice across the ceiling,
now eight times over Ms November’s out for me.
Believe me when I tell you she’s all about destruction.
It’s just about enough to make a grown man cry.
~Neil Fallon (CLUTCH)

*the only change i made was from Miss October to Ms November.

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By cyrena, May 5, 2008 at 6:22 pm Link to this comment

Barack Obama couldn’t be any closer to the truth in describing this stupid ‘proposal’ for what it is…a political sales gimmick. Eugene Robinson pointed this out in his piece on “The Power of a Stupid Idea.”

In short, where exactly is this ‘proposal’ in terms of actually happening, or otherwise coming into being? I could sit here for the rest of the evening and write ‘proposals’ and make a few thousand copies for ‘distribution’ to the media. So what? Has any of this been submitted to the Congress or the appropriate bodies that would need to approve it? (It’s May, and this is supposed to be effective for the SUMMER…does she mean the summer of 2009 or the summer of 2010?)

Why does Hillary or John McCain believe they can just whip an idea out of a hat, (they are 2 of 100 Senators) and just ‘make it happen’ even if it WAS a good idea, which it isn’t? Has anybody received their ‘tax rebate’ yet? How long ago did they decide on that? How exactly does Mrs. Clinton plan to FORCE the OIL Industry to pick up the tab on this? Just by announcing it as her ‘proposal’? She already has the ‘POWER OF THE PRESIDENT” to just,,,,,make it happen?

Well HELL NO! She’s just a flippin’ senator, running for the office of president, and this is supposed to ‘get her over’ for the next few weeks until the final contests on June 3rd. Does anyone REALLY expect to hear anymore about this stupid ‘proposal’ after that?

Meantime, Dick Bush the incurable war junkie, is demanding more BILLIONS for another fix, and we aren’t hearing anything about that. Here’s an excerpt from an email I received today”..

•  “We just got word that in only a few hours, the Democratic leadership will huddle in a room for a closed door meeting on the future of the War in Iraq.  Speaker Pelosi will be joined by Representatives Steny Hoyer, Rahm Emanuel and other key leaders to decide their strategy for the upcoming vote on more money for the war….By the time the funding bill comes to the floor for a vote, it may be too late. The leadership is expected to decide tonight whether to include a timeline in the bill or just give the President a blank check to continue this war. We can’t let that happen. Speaker Pelosi has to listen to Democratic representatives who made her Speaker.”

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By Tom Doff, May 5, 2008 at 6:02 pm Link to this comment

Cyrena, I understand the Crips and the Bloods have gone ‘underground’ in a bunch of Dubai penthouses. They only handle REALLY BIG deals now, mostly slipping hundreds of houris into Saudi Arabia, and loaded container and tanker ships up to Kuwait, to wholesale to the KBR dope dealers who are supplying our troops.
They’re keeping a low profile, except for their vociferous support of McCain, to keep the Iraq war going, and their profits up. I’ve also heard they own Blackwater, and the figurehead-owner, Prince, is a Crip formerly known as Rastus.

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By cyrena, May 5, 2008 at 5:47 pm Link to this comment

Tom Doff,

You know I had to laugh, because YOU know this is as ridiculous as it gets.

BUT WAIT…maybe not. How much MORE insane could this scenario really be, from what we’ve had the passed 8 years?

Actually, I bet we WOULD at least finally get our 40 acres and a mule out of the deal. (imagine the chaos..could this be the “Black Rapture”)

OJ Simpson as AG huh? That’s good.

And the Crips and the Bloods? Are they still in business? I haven’t heard anything about them in ages, and I’m a native Los Angelian.

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By PatrickHenry, May 5, 2008 at 5:32 pm Link to this comment

The Republican evil underbelly is beginning to show as the states GOP meetings are attempting to exorcise the Ron Paul representation.

It will get worse the closer the convention nears.

June 21 at Washington DC.

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By patricia, May 5, 2008 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment
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Hey Indiana and N. Carolina- Hilary wants to buy your vote for $28.00. You can meet her at the pump. She will do anything at this point. But she can only give you a $9.00 IOU for each of the three months, because she dosen’t really have permission-yet…not this year. But it sounds good!!! She wants to dupe you into falling for it….Might work- How weak are you?

I am a Obama Supporter: and I approve this message

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By Dr. Sharron Gilbert, May 5, 2008 at 3:00 pm Link to this comment
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You can kiss your 40 acres and your mule goodbye.


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By Tom Doff, May 5, 2008 at 2:51 pm Link to this comment

I’m 90+% sure I’m gonna take a chance on Obama, BUT:

What if he has been jiving and shucking us all? Can you imagine what he could do in the president’s office, now that it has been empowered with the dictatorial powers of Cheney/Bush?

President Obama, with plenipotentiaries Farrakhan, Sharpton, Wright, The head of the Bloods as Secretary of War. El Bosso of the Mara Salvatrucha as Secretary of State. O.J Simpson as Attorney General. The leader of the Crips as Secretary of Health and Human Services.

With a stroke of the pen he could turn the whole US into a cotton farm, and make it illegal for minorities to pick cotton. (At least until Whitey becomes a minority).

And last but not least, his booty-bride as Secretary of the Treasury.

Talk about a retirement plan!

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By Tom Doff, May 5, 2008 at 2:30 pm Link to this comment

Unfortunately, one of these bickering boobs has to win the presidency, because the alternative is McCain.

Now maybe McCain was a hero.
Maybe he was a straight shooter.
Maybe he was a maverick Pol, going against the grain.

In the paraphrased words of a famous ex-president,

‘It all depends upon what your definition of ‘was’, was’.

If he ‘was’ those things, he sure ain’t now. If you doubt that, read Arianna Huffington’s recount of her 2000 conversation with John and Cindy, on HuffPo.

One thing’s for sure, if McCain ever ‘was’, he no longer ‘is’. What he ‘is’, is, a doddering old pandering fool, who is as nuts as his new hero, ‘W’.

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