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 Pentagon Eyeing Military Option Aganst IranPosted on Apr 25, 2008
On Friday, a day after an American cargo ship fired warning shots at two small boats off the coast of Iran, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen said the Pentagon is considering various options, including military action, to deal with what he characterized as the Iranian government’s “increasingly lethal and malign influence” in Iraq.
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By THE MANGEMEISTER, April 28 at 12:32 pm #
Douglas what does it matter if this was a re-run?It seems an appropriate time to show this again as it is just part of the mainstream media’s agenda of convincing people that a war against Iran is necessary.Propaganda like this is the same thing that led to the invasion of Iraq.
Report thisBy Warrior, April 28 at 10:30 am #
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Phantom enemies don’t have to be real. They only become real when someone makes them real.
Report thisThey missed your point, Concerned Iranian American.
By purplewolf, April 28 at 8:36 am #
Bushit Incorporated has been dreaming of this for some time now. Anything to stop the upcoming elections and declare Martial Law and to make him His Highass Emperor Bushit and Cheney Court of Incompetents, who will finally finish destroying America as we knew it. After all, Georgie is following in his fathers footsteps of total control of the becoming the fastest fascist society today.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 28 at 6:48 am #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 28 at 6:41 am #
No, they WON’T “be satisfied”, Allen. They will then turn on each other as territorial control and domestic conflict become paramount. The USA is actually headed for ANOTHER civil war in such a scenario!
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 28 at 6:38 am #
Don’t worry, MM, its only a ‘re-run’ ha ha. Pity they couldn’t find a reason to use the historical footage from the Iran-Iraq war - that really IS something for audiences, duh!
Report thisBy THE MANGEMEISTER, April 27 at 7:26 pm #
A war against Iran must be coming.I just watched 60 minutes on CBS or(SEE BS)with the usual poor Israel being wiped off the map by big bad Iran.Israel and the Neo Con Jobs are the greatest threat this world has ever faced.
Report thisBy Ashish, April 27 at 1:39 pm #
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1. West wants control over Iranian Oil and that they won’t get until the current regime rules.
2. Iran opened an Oil Exchange in which the oil is traded in non US dollar currencies. That weakens US dollar.
3. If they get a weapon, then it would become exponentially more difficult to dethrone the current regime and install a pro-west govt.
4. A nuclear Iran might carry enough influence in the region that more and more pro-west Arab govts might start moving away.
Since, none of the above reasons are appealing(to the public) for a military coflict, the tact is to start portraying Iran as Evil.
The tragic thing is most of the Americans are going to buy this propoganda, because they will be scared to death by portrayal of a doomsday scenario.
Report thisBy tyler, April 27 at 1:21 pm #
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you would think that after iran, the saudis would be next, but the saudis and the bushes have been in bed together for a LONG time. there’s no way the US would go after saudi arabia.
The saudi royal family lies to their people just as bad if not worse than the bush administration lies to the american people.
Report thisBy concerned iranian-american, April 27 at 1:03 pm #
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You sound like one of Bush’s speak writers. Remember the “smoking gun will be a mushroom cloud” catch-phrase? I wonder what new lines the neo-cons will invent as they try their best to come up with anything to justify killing more people, this time in Iran.
Sadly, the neo-cons have a huge advantage: our uninformed population who like their news to resemble with the national inquirer. Just one semi-carefully crafted lie backed up with some “source” will do. And I’m sure Israel will be more than happy to oblige with their Mossad agents in Iran.
Report thisBy felicity, April 27 at 12:48 pm #
Bush is a classic deranged head of state. He has many antecedents in history from Nero to Hitler and before and after. With his swaggering cruelty, alternating with his childish petulance sometimes interrupted by sudden paroxysms of tears he’s their living clone.
What boggles the mind is even in the 21st century we seem to have no defense against his type. Says something about us - which is what we really should be questioning.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 27 at 11:46 am #
Russia and China are friends. They don’t need enemies they way the USA does......
See Shanghai Group http://www.sectsco.org/home.asp?LanguageID=2
MOSCOW: The leaders of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) on Thursday pledged to keep foreign players out of Central Asia and moved to boost their security cooperation.
Regional security is the responsibility of the SCO and no one else, the six member-states said in a political declaration adopted at their summit in Bishkek on Thursday.... http://www.hindu.com/2007/08/17/stories/20070817623418 00.htm
Report thisBy Leefeller, April 27 at 10:54 am #
Hey, if we want to spread the democracy of weasels, how about Saudi Arabia seems it would be nice to see the ladies take off their bee keeper suits and sell “Mary Kay” products?
Report thisBy Potassium, April 27 at 10:12 am #
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sometimes in the late eighties i believe
Report thisBy Lazarus62, April 27 at 8:37 am #
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And what evidence does the establishment offer for this increased Iranian activity? There is none. We’re going down the same road we did during the run up to the invasion of Iraq. There is no smoking gun, there is no connection that the Iranian government is supplementing militia forces with weapons. Where is the Congress to provide oversight and authorization, where are the military officers who need to speak truth to power, where is the media asking the tough questions, where is the executive exercising constitutional responsibility? Where is the informed and outraged citizenry?
Report thisBy Jonathon, April 27 at 8:27 am #
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You’re right TDoff! You know i tricked myself after I read first sentence of that article once and then reread it I tricked myself into believeing it said Iran ships fired on us!
Let me see...US fire shots at them first...then US complain about the Iranian’s “lethal and malign” influence afterwards. That’s even dumber than the Gulf of Tonkin. Not one thing about this whole incident makes any sense. This administration better get some better scripters than then before they try and con us into another war.
Report thisBy Jonathon, April 27 at 7:52 am #
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Mullen - I have no expectations that were going to get into a conflict with Iran in the immediate future, he said.
Key Word —“immediate”
What that means is maybe not this spring or this summer.
Report thisBy Allen Wood, April 27 at 6:19 am #
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When The US or Israel decide to push the Nuclear Button on Iran we in the US will not have to worry about global warming any more. Its going to get very cold in North America when Nuclear Winter takes hold.We will finally find out what it means to die by the sword. I hope all of the war mongers will finally be satisfied.
Report thisBy Expat, April 27 at 4:48 am #
^ and I’m wondering why China and Russia just don’t tell Bush to shut the f#@*K up and settle down and get his finger OFF the trigger. Maybe they are speaking behind the “curtain”. They both have huge investments in Iran and I find it hard to believe they will just sit on the sidelines while Bush/Cheney spout their venom. The real tragedy is the complete waste of a potential treasure and the complete lack of vision from these snarling, vicious, wastrels of humanity.
Report thisBy Expat, April 27 at 4:32 am #
Yeah Douglas, but so is 2008, don’t you think?
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 27 at 4:30 am #
Such as that are the delusions of Western pseudo-Christians. Supporting migrant Russian Jews against Arabs in the false beliefs that Christianity was ever a Western religion - and that these invaders and their largely white European “settler society” were ever the people known as the Jews of 2,000 years ago.
Its a farce....... but going on to a nuclear war!
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 27 at 4:23 am #
Having no morality left and being now utterly devoid of spirituality, they only have the path of the animals..... back to the law of the jungle!
Report thisBy Greg Bacon, April 27 at 4:00 am #
If Iran had a Navy and had one or two aircraft carrier battle groups patrolling in the Gulf of Mexico, playing War Games, what do you think Americans would be saying and doing?
If the Iran Navy--which doesn’t exist--was in the Gulf, there would be all sorts of hell being raised and most likely, a savage attack on the Iranian ships in international waters by the war mongering Bush/Cheney Junta.
What’s good for the goose is not for the gander.
We’re being pimped to launch another war against another of Israel’s “existential” enemies, Iran.
After that war happens and if the world is still around, we’ll then start getting bombarded by psyop propaganda about how 14 of the 19 alleged 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and now it’s time to finish the job and invade Saudi Arabia… and off we got, fighting another of Isreal’s “existential” enemies.
Report thisBy Mats, April 27 at 12:24 am #
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The US and UK are desperately and furiously attempting to conjure up anything, anything at all to use as the justification for moving forward with a military attack against Iran.
Report thisBy Potassium, April 26 at 4:49 pm #
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phantom enemy soon becomes REAL.
Report thisBy concerned iranian-american, April 26 at 1:26 pm #
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I am an Iranian-American who grew up in NY. I cannot believe that this administration is actually going to invade Iran. I’m not go into specifics about the role of the oil-rich Arab countries and of course Israel in US policy (since anyone with half a brain can see that the US has been commandeered by Israel). What I do want to express is how stupid Americans are to think that Iran is a threat to them. No doubt Iran is run by a bunch of hypocrites who use religion to steal from their own people. Also, no doubt that they hate Israel. But to think that they are dumb enough to act in a manner to provoke a US strike or any type of military confrontation is just plain wrong.
What I have come to realize (as I’m sure many of you have as well) is that the search for truth has become much more difficult with the advent of the Internet and cable news. I do not claim to know everything, but what I am sure about is: that Iran is not a threat to the US. In Iraq, there is a free-for-all. Take a step back and notice that this administration has tried to turn a weakness (the war in Iraq) into a strength (that Iran is now the enemy we should be afraid of and that they are supporting the insurgents). What they forget to mention is the millions of dollars that the Arab countries have given Sunni insurgents to fight Shia. And what about Israel? Who knows what Mossad is up to in Iraq.
I know I babbled somewhat but my point is that we do not really know what is going on in the Middle East. The only thing I’m sure about is that any type of strike on Iran would be disastrous for everyone. And when I hear Clinton saying obliterate Iran, how different is this from saying that Israel should be wiped off the map? Im really concerned that we dumb-ass Americans are going to be suckered into supporting another war against a phantom enemy.
Report thisBy kevin99999, April 26 at 1:13 pm #
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Is this now our foreign policy to attack any country that has a “maligned” influence on our interests?....And we called Soviet Union the evil empire?...hmmmm
Report thisBy KenDen, April 26 at 9:48 am #
And of course the US hasn’t been an “increasingly lethal and malign influence in Iraq. Just look how well we’ve done there.
And it is true that Pelosi has to take some of the blame for what is going on by taking impeachment off the table. How stupid.
Report thisBy felicity, April 26 at 9:39 am #
Good question, Douglas. Of course ‘we’ had a perfect ‘right’ to fund, arm and train the Afghani Mujahideen (a rough facsimile of today’s Iraqi insurgents) during the Russian-Afghanistan War.
We got away with it - Russia didn’t bomb us to smithereens in retaliation - but when will we not get away with it. If we take military action against Iran, we may just find out when.
Report thisBy DennisD, April 26 at 8:01 am #
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Can anyone say “Gulf of Tonkin”, Part II.
It would be a mistake to think that we are out of combat capability, - Mullen
Is he fu*king serious. We’re out of money, personnel and equipment so unless he plans to fight via video game I can’t imagine what the hell he’s thinking.
Nurse Ratchet, please come and get your patient, it’s medication time.
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 26 at 7:38 am #
By Hammo: “What will the “blowback” be...... How will it affect the upcoming presidential election...”
Perhpas the question should really be “How will it affect the 70 million people in IRAN?”!!!
Report thisBy TDoff, April 26 at 7:32 am #
Oh Oh!
If the Pentagon plans the attack against Iran as well as it did the fiasco against Iran, and executes it as well as it did ‘Shock and Awe’, the folks in Paris and St. Moritz had better start digging air-raid shelters, pronto.
Wouldn’t be a bad idea to put Beijing on high alert, also.
Report thisBy Hammo, April 26 at 7:22 am #
What will the “blowback” be from a Bush-Cheney attack on Iran?
Will they use “bunker-busting” nuke bombs, as rumored?
Will high-ranking generals and admirals resign in protest?
How will it affect the upcoming presidential election?
There are many other questions, a few answers and many unfortunate aspects to these questions.
Food for thought in the articles:
“Will Bush, Cheney Attack Iran? When and Why?”
Truthout.org
02 February 2007
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020207A.shtml
- - -
“Military Draft Needed for War With Iran and Syria?”
Truthout.org
20 September 2006
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/6 4/22754
Authorss blog:
http://jointreconstudygroup.blogspot.com
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 26 at 7:08 am #
1939 was already rather late, expat, uhh!
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 26 at 7:07 am #
The WAR will be over by Christmas!!!
Report thisBy TDoff, April 26 at 7:02 am #
Wait a minute!
An American ship (or an American mercenary vessel) fires warning shots at unarmed small boats, and therefore our NeoConZionist government describes Iran as having ‘increasing lethal and malign influence’ in Iraq?
That’s as Lewis Carrollish as the US being attacked by a gang of Saudi-backed Afghan terrorists (or Afghan-trained Saudi terrorists), and ‘retaliating’ by unilaterally, ‘pre-emptively’ invading Iraq to protect Israel from worrying about what Saddam might someday due to their plans to conquer and dominate the Middle East.
Is The Dummy’s ‘god’ telling him to look for more rabbit holes to fall into before it’s too late, and someone sane takes over? (I guess that means The Dummy’s ‘god’ doesn’t think much of McCain’s chances).
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 26 at 6:52 am #
The Iranians don’t hate anyone. The USA is doing it all by itself, uhh. The fear and aggression is ALL your own!!!
Report thisBy Aegrus, April 26 at 6:21 am #
I’m sure Bush would love nothing more than to destroy the country he had a free tap from the past eight years to really show the American people his contempt for us.
Report thisBy JimM, April 26 at 4:49 am #
So obviously the neocons have absolutely no fear of this congress and will do what gives them additional blood profit.
This administration has zero credibility with anyone with any lick of sense.
Is there a reason the Iranians should not hate us?
Report thisBy Jim Yell, April 26 at 4:48 am #
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The American government is training terroists in Mexico to pull down the Empire of Mexico. France threatens to invade the American nation if it continues to try and disrupt the civil peace of Mexico. It is well known the American government is funding and encouraging terroism in Mexico, as they reach for control of Mexico. The legal government of Mexico the Emperor has stated that his troops can control the country, although his troops are largely the French troops hoping to go home alive.
Napoleon, III announced that inspite of bogus news stories the French Nation and the Empire of Mexico have things well under control, even though they will have to be there for 100 years.
Go figure?
Report thisBy jackpine savage, April 26 at 4:09 am #
Well, the wisdom of politicians never ceases to amaze me. We spent all those years and millions of dollars supporting Saddam Hussein to act as a counterweight to Iran...to keep it from becoming a regional power. Then we went and knocked off Saddam. Now we’re worried about Iran becoming a regional power.
It’s coming, the only question is when and how. We already declared economic war on Iran (3/20/08). Sen Clinton already showed her cards and that she will support the action.
Expat, the big difference that i see between the US and Nazi Germany is that the latter was attempting to build an empire, while the former is beginning to swing wildly in hopes of preserving one. Like a cornered, rabid varmint...we are capable of just about anything at this point.
Report thisBy Expat, April 26 at 2:04 am #
^ serve at the pleasure of the president. They’re not the ones pushing this. My question is: Who is Bush trying to terrify? Us or Iran or both. If we attack Iran, I say go after Pelosi for not starting impeachment. I wonder if this is how some Germans felt in the late 30’s?
Report thisBy Douglas Chalmers, April 25 at 11:27 pm #
Yes, and very “one-eyed” too, uhh!
Back to this shit again but try to remind yourselves that IRAN has a right to have some influenece with its next-door neighbors. It also has three times the population if Iraq........
What “right” does the USA have to be in the region? Down to the blatant theft and threats knowns as “protecting its interests” again, right?!?!
And who is keeping an “eye” on all the British, French and Israeli submarines prowling around there with their nuclear missiles???
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